The new Triumph 200 cc motorcycle

[Denim]

Not necessarily how the finished product might look or cost but a tantalizing glimpse of the new Triumph 200 cc

 

 

[Denim]

According to the clip....some features :

 

Single cylinder 4 stroke

Retro look

Possible 85,000 baht but taxes might push it to around 100,000

Possible variants :  Sports and touring/off road

 

Nice little toy if you are not in a hurry. Similar to the Kawasaki W175

 

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Denim

[Sunmaster]

Wow, that looks like a cheap Chinese copy of a Triumph. 

[Denim]

14 hours ago, Sunmaster said:

Wow, that looks like a cheap Chinese copy of a Triumph. 

 

Make that Indian.

[Phuketshrew]

A 400 twin would be sweet ????

[finnsk]

Maybe the IMO could include this as a gift on a non O visa package, just a suggest, I will not say no.

[twocatsmac]

59 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Wow, that looks like a cheap Chinese copy of a Triumph. 

With a Honda rebel exhaust.

24 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

A 400 twin would be sweet ????

Yes, I’d expect a mid range version too with wire wheels please. Could sell well as big engine trumpets have good status in Thailand. 

[Phuketshrew]

The last Triumph twin I had was a 1953 Speedtwin (known as the bathtub!). Last Triumph I owned was a 1976 Trident (US Spec) - That was a beauty and sounded awesome.

[eisfeld]

There is no real info for the new low cc Triumphs. The pictures are an artists impression of what the bike could look like. All the specs and especially prices mentioned are dreamed up. Triumph just recently signed the deal with Bajaj to develop bikes, no way can they have something so ready at this point in time.

[BKKBike09]

It's an embarrassment and should be nipped in the bud (former Speed Triple owner 1997-2001).

[findlay13]

On 6/4/2020 at 6:35 PM, BKKBike09 said:

It's an embarrassment and should be nipped in the bud (former Speed Triple owner 1997-2001).

A small 200 250 would be good but not if it looked like this rubbish

 

 

[Denim]

15 hours ago, findlay13 said:

A small 200 250 would be good but not if it looked like this rubbish

 

 

 

Apparently , there is a prototype already and Triumph are satisfied at the progress being made.

 

Whatever eventually appears with the single cylinder engine ( scheduled for 2022 ) ,  there will be three variants with the same basic engine. A retro , a sports and some kind of off road bike.

 

The bike shown in the video is the suggested retro version which is supposed to be like a baby Bonneville.  If you listen to the video more details are given.

 

An article in English about the bike :

 

https://www.rushlane.com/bajaj-triumph-200-cc-motorcycle-digital-render-12363456.html

 

As stated in post one the appearance is not settled :

 

Our in-house design specialist Pratyush Rout has come up with a speculative rendering of the most affordable Triumph. He has envisioned it as an entry-level roadster with Bonneville hereditary.

 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Denim

[Justgrazing]

Badge engineered Balaj .. But it makes sense to get a foothold in the massive Indian motorcycle market .. Since their rebirth Triumph have made bigger capacity hi end machines not easily affordable to the masses but the brand of Triumph is iconic so doing this allows access to the badge for those not loaded with the dollars for a big Triumph ..  Don't expect it to go down well with the purists though .. 

Original 1960's 200 Cub Triumph .. 

 

 

[Denim]

15 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Badge engineered Balaj .. But it makes sense to get a foothold in the massive Indian motorcycle market .. Since their rebirth Triumph have made bigger capacity hi end machines not easily affordable to the masses but the brand of Triumph is iconic so doing this allows access to the badge for those not loaded with the dollars for a big Triumph ..  Don't expect it to go down well with the purists though .. 

Original 1960's 200 Cub Triumph .. 

 

 

 

I owned 3 mid range Triumphs .

 

An ex police T100 Triumph Trophy 500cc ( I think that's what it was . Single carb )

 

A T100D Triumph Daytona 500cc ( one of last 50 made with disc brake and Bonnie forks )

 

A T90  350 cc ( bit of a rat bike but looked nice anyway )

 

Clearly, a glutton for punishment. All mechanically OK but all had electrical problems.

 

In the end I thought more riding and less pushing would be a good idea and switched to Hondas

[Phil McCaverty]

My mate in the UK has just bought this.

 

 

2500cc. A proper bike.

[Justgrazing]

1 hour ago, Denim said:

 

I owned 3 mid range Triumphs .

 

An ex police T100 Triumph Trophy 500cc ( I think that's what it was . Single carb )

 

A T100D Triumph Daytona 500cc ( one of last 50 made with disc brake and Bonnie forks )

 

A T90  350 cc ( bit of a rat bike but looked nice anyway )

 

Clearly, a glutton for punishment. All mechanically OK but all had electrical problems.

 

In the end I thought more riding and less pushing would be a good idea and switched to Hondas

All part of the charm of owning old British iron .. Ironically modern wiring loom kits and vastly improved reliability electrical components are available now to breathe new life into them .. 

[bluesofa]

3 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

All part of the charm of owning old British iron .. Ironically modern wiring loom kits and vastly improved reliability electrical components are available now to breathe new life into them .. 

Ha ha, 'part of the charm'. Is that why someone once said BSA stood for Better Shoved Anyway?

[Justgrazing]

28 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Ha ha, 'part of the charm'. Is that why someone once said BSA stood for Better Shoved Anyway?

Hahahaha yea .. Another Brit' marque that found its name open to jibes was Lotus .. Lots of troubles usually serious .. 

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Hahahaha yea .. Another Brit' marque that found its name open to jibes was Lotus .. Lots of troubles usually serious .. 

I like the brown ones - the Lotus Chocolate Eclair.

 

[Denim]

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

All part of the charm of owning old British iron .. Ironically modern wiring loom kits and vastly improved reliability electrical components are available now to breathe new life into them .. 

 

Yes....electronic ignition and a non ' tickle ' Mikuni carb would be a vast improvement. Never liked the idea of having to manually pump the carb and get petrol all over it. Over a ton was another problem though because although you got there quicker you often had to waste 5 minutes tightening up everything that had shaken loose..

 

[Denim]

17 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said:

My mate in the UK has just bought this.

 

 

2500cc. A proper bike.

 

Does it come with brown corduroy jeans ?

 

Ok in the UK but not here. No basket on the front for the booze when you have to ride 500 meters to the 7/11

[Phil McCaverty]

1 minute ago, Denim said:

 

Does it come with brown corduroy jeans ?

 

Ok in the UK but not here. No basket on the front for the booze when you have to ride 500 meters to the 7/11

You can get a tank bag and panniers for it. Considering that it develops 221N/m of torque, more than any other road bike ever produced, you would probably need brown trousers of some description if you rode it.

[Denim]

14 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said:

You can get a tank bag and panniers for it. Considering that it develops 221N/m of torque, more than any other road bike ever produced, you would probably need brown trousers of some description if you rode it.

 

No argument there. Brown trousers or waders and brown jacket to match. 

 

An easy 75 mph is fast enough for me. Prefer a smaller bike on smaller roads with lots of bends and good acceleration and braking.

[papa al]

On 6/4/2020 at 3:27 PM, eisfeld said:

There is no real info for the new low cc Triumphs. The pictures are an artists impression of what the bike could look like. All the specs and especially prices mentioned are dreamed up. Triumph just recently signed the deal with Bajaj to develop bikes, no way can they have something so ready at this point in time.

Maybe they have all kinds of stuff ready.

[Denim]

14 hours ago, papa al said:

Maybe they have all kinds of stuff ready.

 

Triumph motorcycles in trouble !

 

An interesting video I just ran across is of the opinion that Triumph is in trouble and skating on thin ice regardless of anything they have in the pipeline.

 

 

[Phil McCaverty]

18 minutes ago, Denim said:

An interesting video I just ran across is of the opinion that Triumph is in trouble and skating on thin ice regardless of anything they have in the pipeline.

Yes just opinion from a self proclaimed Luddite.

[Deli]

I'd rather buy a Honda Dream and be sure to have a bike that runs and lasts

[xylophone]

22 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Original 1960's 200 Cub Triumph .. 

 

 

I thought these were super little bikes in my time and nearly bought one, but a friend had one and for some reason had to keep changing the big ends on it??

 

I did eventually own a Triumph 350 cc twin, which sounded like a bunch of spanners in a metal bucket and leaked oil constantly, then I had a Triumph 500 cc Speed twin, but was puzzled as to why they called it a Speed twin, when the one I had was pretty lethargic!

 

The easiest to maintain, smoothest and most lovely sounding ride I had (two of them actually) were powered by the Villiers 2T two-stroke engine – – a great little engine, both of them fitted in Ambassadors which were popular at the time in the 60s.

 

Of course if you really wanted to be noted in those days, you had a Triumph Bonneville or a Triumph 500 cc single, which was a real beast to start.

 

Nowadays it's my little Honda Click, backed up by a Suzuki Swift, but I got a little bit nostalgic a few weeks ago when a friend of mine here showed me his new Triumph bike........

[toofarnorth]

20 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Ha ha, 'part of the charm'. Is that why someone once said BSA stood for Better Shoved Anyway?

And Royal Enfields were called Royal Oilfields , but oh how they have come on .

[toofarnorth]

25 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I thought these were super little bikes in my time and nearly bought one, but a friend had one and for some reason had to keep changing the big ends on it??

 

I did eventually own a Triumph 350 cc twin, which sounded like a bunch of spanners in a metal bucket and leaked oil constantly, then I had a Triumph 500 cc Speed twin, but was puzzled as to why they called it a Speed twin, when the one I had was pretty lethargic!

 

The easiest to maintain, smoothest and most lovely sounding ride I had (two of them actually) were powered by the Villiers 2T two-stroke engine – – a great little engine, both of them fitted in Ambassadors which were popular at the time in the 60s.

 

Of course if you really wanted to be noted in those days, you had a Triumph Bonneville or a Triumph 500 cc single, which was a real beast to start.

 

Nowadays it's my little Honda Click, backed up by a Suzuki Swift, but I got a little bit nostalgic a few weeks ago when a friend of mine here showed me his new Triumph bike........

A Trumpet 500 single , do tell me more.. The BSA Goldie was a beast to start that is for sure.