Over 90% of Thai people want a total ban on foreign arrivals

[Xaos]

1400 out of 70mil 

Just shows how stupid they are. 

Thats like 0.029% responders 

[pattayadude]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Over 90% of Thai people want a total ban on foreign arrivals

everybody should go back to their countries and stay in their countries. traveling should be banned too. otherwise certain viruses less tolerant than the covid-19 will wipe out the humankind in the near future..mark my words

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, Tarteso said:

As someone wrote; this poll was done in a university, where obviously the students do not depend on tourism
this is not a poll of "random people" but a specific group type.

And that person "wrote" wrongly, it wasn't polled in a university, it was conducted by a university.  To use your own words, maybe you can learn something new today.You haven’t idea what are you talking [sic].

Edited July 20, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[pattayadude]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

The foreigners they see are the noticeable foreigners. The ones wearing singlets, with prostitutes, tattoos, drunk in the mid-afternoon, body odor riding on the skytrain, talking loudly, arguing in the bank or the 7/11 because they are lost and confused, in a country they don't understand or care about.

you talking about me..

[digger70]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Over 90% of Thai people want a total ban on foreign arrivals

What about Thai Returns ? Treat all people same ,Quarantine and fit to travel Docs. 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, pattayadude said:

everybody should go back to their countries and stay in their countries. traveling should be banned too. otherwise certain viruses less tolerant than the covid-19 will wipe out the humankind in the near future..mark my words

Find box, stand on said box, proselytize to all that the world is coming to an end....wait i have seen that before on Hollywood Blvd in California.  Except the man wore a Sandwich board.....

 

Covid has sure given governments some identity issues now has it not. Then they play spin the personal views and skew what they can so the people believe it all and regurgitate it.  Just my sarcastic opinion.

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, Diddl said:

What sort of a headline is that?  it says in the newspaper article "33.43% want a total ban on foreign arrivals" and not 90%.  I call this hate-speech and propaganda on the part of whoever wrote the title of the article. 

Different responses to different questions, it's not that hard to understand, if you read it.  Nothing to do with "hate speech" or propaganda.

[Older and Wiser]

I'm sure that a poll of 0.002% of the population will be truly representative of the views of the population, not.

 

Officially, 7% of the population are employed in tourism, add those which are not officially employed in tourism, boats, banana boats, bar girls, etc., etc., plus those dependants who are reliant on their income, say at least 20% of the population, who I presume cannot wait for foreigners to return. It would make nonsense of their figures.

 

Personally, I am not resident of Thailand but have an apartment in Cha-Am and go there several times a year,. At least, until Covid-19. Last time was January, but don't know when the next time is likely to be, but still have to pay 40k+ maintenance. Much worse for those locked out of Thailand but locked into a rental agreement or mortgage.

 

Anyway, I look forward to the date they can safely return to normal.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Older and Wiser
grammar

[flyfrog]

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Thai’s are not this stupid. One has to wonder how ‘loaded’ the questions in the poll were...

 

i.e. Should we allow foreigners in from countries with high covid numbers? 
 

or should we allow the risk of foreigners bring in covid? etc 

You probably not work here or have a business that works with tourists?

[SpanishExpat]

I know polls are calculated on statistics extrapolation, but if I would ask all people I know, there would be definitely a different result!

Let´s see how long the majority will still think like that! They always state TH is not as dependent on tourism as most people may think. But the truth is. Every employee in the tourism sector without a job now and having a family back in the village cannot support them anymore. So even the families of those unemployed people are not not working in the tourism industry, they are highly dependent on it.

 

So many Thais just can think in extremes. Black or white, but nothing in between. The sooner they (and their governement) learns, that they have to develop middle-path strategies, the better for them. Everyone is waiting for the vaccine, whereas many virologists state that there is still a chance it may never be found/work properly. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2020 by SpanishExpat

[Tarteso]

1 hour ago, Bob A Kneale said:

So you think that polls should question 69,000,000+ people every time in order to get a reasonable indication?

Nonsenses;

 

 

N = population size

e =  margen Of error (as decimal)

z = confidence level (as z score)

p = porcentaje value (as decimal)

???? ????

 

Edited July 20, 2020 by Tarteso

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, tomauasia said:

I dont even read it. By the way who is paying for these polls ? Merely Prayut gov fake news geared to rid Thailand of white people.

"Merely Prayut gov fake news geared to rid Thailand of white people".

Really?  How would you know that if you didn't read it?

 

By the way, it was the results of a poll, not a news item, fake or otherwise.

[Bobydog]

Oh really? And of couse those 90% will be happy to establish a fund to support all the thousands of YOUR people that you would bankrupt or face hardship because they cannot find work.   I do not believe there are that many stupid people in Thaland unless we are talking about  Thai gov. 

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, Mikeasq60 said:

how old are you, twenty something I assume. what life experience do uni students have other than from a leftist lecturer

What have Thai university students' "life experiences" got to do with this?  Students weren't being polled.

[smudger1951]

7 hours ago, Mops59 said:

Forbid all foreigners? Does.that mean Thai people who are registered living abroad with a foreign spouse too? Because they are foreigners too. Does it mean that all foreigners with property in Thailand who stay about 5 months a year in Thailand, go eat at restaurants, play golf, shop in expensive shopping malls, make trips with taxis and so on. Are.they not welcome anymore? Those.who sponsored and.delivered food packages to poor people and jobless people because of this crisis. People with retirement visas can not.come? Why? We like to be in Thailand. We help Thai people who are close. Make difference where needed. If you want to loose us please do keep rejecting our entrance into Thailand. We will spend our money somewhere else and let the government take care of you. I do hope the big moguls want to spend this kind of money.

Mops59, but this was probably a skewed survey. In view of the pandemic statistics scross the the world I understand the reaction. I hope testing, tracking and air bridges will win the day.

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, bodga said:

10 hours ago, webfact said:

The poll gauged the opinions of 1,459 people,

and the other 68million many in the  tourism industry said?

Extrapolation, look it up, then look up "poll".

[pattayadude]

26 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Covid has sure given governments some identity issues now has it not. Then they play spin the personal views and skew what they can so the people believe it all and regurgitate it.  Just my sarcastic opinion.

totalitarianism will be the norm of the future governments

[off road pat]

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Thai’s are not this stupid. One has to wonder how ‘loaded’ the questions in the poll were...

 

i.e. Should we allow foreigners in from countries with high covid numbers? 
 

or should we allow the risk of foreigners bring in covid? etc 

There are interesting studies about how to influence polls,...according to how to formulate questions to get the expected answers....!?!? it works very well in the west !!!

[thairookie]

Poll conducted in Civil Service Center where all participants are on a fixed payroll regardless of slum in tourism business ?

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, mitos said:

In Pattaya 5 tourbuses Chinese (they look like Chinese?!) with accompanying the police at Beach Rd are visiting last week. 

So? 

 

Would you be posting that if the tour buses had western passengers?

[Aussie Col]

If Thailand doesn't want foreign tourists I'm sure other countries in the area will.

I'm sure if Thailand doesn't want all the tourism money Vietnam and the Philippines will.

Billions lost in foreign tourism money will cost millions of jobs in Thailand. Directly and indirectly

[Curt1591]

6 hours ago, Kerryd said:

 

Lol - that photo was published on ThaiVisa (and elsewhere) as far back as 20 April ! 
 

 

So, it's the goto image! 

[Rancid]

Its probably an accurate opinion, bearing in mind of course that most opinions aren't developed, they are instilled by the media. In my country, a few unfortunate elderly people have died of covid, the media screams 2nd wave doom every day, and people are in fear, happy for house arrest, happy for fines for no masks, happy for people in the sun to be arrested, happy with the army checking state borders. I.e. They've embraced fascism.

 

Here's some Oz stats, 2020 covid 9,800 cases with 108 deaths, and we are doomed and shut the economy. 2019 flu cases 130,000 with 250 deaths, people are completely indifferent. And the difference? The media.

 

Personally I think we are kept in fear so we accept compulsory vaccination as the only escape. As an aside, under Nuremberg War Crime laws compulsory vaccination would be considered a war crime...look it up.

[DualSportBiker]

Wow, just wow! It is not hard to imagine what change would arise were a Thai immigration policy specialist to read this thread. The majority of you seem to think Thai people should not run their own country. Why? Well, they can't do polls, don't value your money or contribution, only spout government propaganda and consider the safety of the Thai population more important than the needs of a minority screaming 'accept my privilege!'

 

1. Few of you understand statistics and the mathematics of polling. This link was posted by someone else and should be read before ranting about your failure to understand. It is OK to not understand, it is not cool to broadcast your ignorance and consider it gospel. You can also read this for a second opinion.
2. The survey was deployed online - you can read it yourself. The questions are not contrived or leading, they are bog-standard poll questions with overlapping fields of enquiry. Respondents were people who wanted to participate, not those approached in the street by a pollster. If you can't read Thai like me, have Google Translate read it to you.
3. The questions were presented individually as is best practice.
4. The respondents were from all over Thailand. Of the 1,459, some 520 were in Bangkok and the remainder elsewhere. They did not track location to any more detail than that.
5. The respondents were not all students at Suan Dusit who are removed from the tourism industry.

Let's be perfectly clear, Covid-19 is an external problem for Thailand. It originated outside, was dealt with internally, and now only exists outside of Thailand, again. The initial mistake of letting people in during the initial outbreak is understood as a mistake - they are trying not to repeat that mistake. 

 

Thai people are pretty resilient and they are signaling they prefer hardship to infection. They prefer no tourists to a second lockdown. It's not complicated; two months of restrictions weren't fun - can't you remember that far back? If holding back on tourism until so-called advanced economies can take charge of their runaway Covid problems make Thailand more safe for the average Thai, why not?

 

Thailand produces more food than it can eat - no need to eat soi dog as suggested by the ugliest comment in the thread so far. Get over yourselves - the accumulated budget of all expats in Thailand is not enough to register. They quite correctly don't care about such a trivial amount of money. It only seems like a lot to each individual spending it. These decisions are not about us or any individual - how hard is that to fathom?

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, pennine said:

Is 0.002% of the population statistically significant?

Of course it isn't (no one claimed that .002% was) but accepted methods of extrapolation do make it significant...as far as polls go.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[johnnytuc]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yes, they were never colonized, and is one of the things they pride themselves on, even though many of the elite have been educated overseas and bring those ideals back with them

The only reason Thailand was never colonized was because the French and the British who were not to keen on each other at the time, had an agreement that Siam was to be left as a buffer zone, nothing to do with any heroic stand by Thailand

[Regyai]

At a total death toll  numbering in the 50's they haven't even had A wave of the virus.

 

Perversely the yearly  toll from snake bites is commensurate... Don't hear similar paranoia about invoking Saint Patrick ????

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, Dukeleto said:

8 hours ago, meechai said:

Over 90% of 1459 Thai people polled want a total ban on foreign arrivals

 

Fixed your sensationalism for you ????

Over 90% of the 0,000000208% of Thai people polled wanted a total ban on foreign arrivals.

 

There you go. Fine tuned it for you to add even more dramatic effect and perspective.

Shame about your maths, Dukeleto, bit over the top with the zeros there.

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

there must be at least 15% unemployment in Thailand. The figures put out by the Government are nonsense.

What statistics do you base that (guess) on?

[Beanfarmer05]

6 hours ago, Rocking Robert said:

Heard on the news today CEO of Delta airlines said  don’t expect international travel till summer of 2021

There is already international travel right now. And getting busier each day. He might have meant travel from US to other parts of the world and vice versa.

 

UK and  Europe as example are now travelling within each others areas with only a few exceptions(serbia)