Video: Trucker says he was in the right - Belgian "big biker" ends up in hospital

[webfact]

Video: Trucker says he was in the right - Belgian "big biker" ends up in hospital

 

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Thai TV Channel 3 reported on an accident on Saturday evening on the Buriram to Sateuk Road in Muang district of Buriram in Thailand's north east. 

 

A six wheel dump truck carrying earth was crossing the four lane road to enter a PTT gas station. 

 

The front fender had bloodstains and damage on the left. 

 

Nearby was 58 year old Christian from Belgium who was severely injured. 

 

He had a bloodied face and smashed up left leg.

 

He had been riding a black Kawasaki Ninja. 

 

The truck driver, Anan, 27, said that the foreigner was in the wrong, and he was driving properly. 

 

Another witness said that the foreigner had overtaken him at speed then the accident occurred in the blink of an eye. 

 

Muang Buriram police are investigating. 

 

Source: Channel 3

 

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[colinneil]

Just now, webfact said:

The truck driver, Anan, 27, said that the foreigner was in the wrong, and he was driving properly. 

Yes of course the truck driver was driving properly.????????????????

Had to be the farang in the wrong, when have you ever heard a Thai admit they were wrong?

[rvaviator]

12 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Yes of course the truck driver was driving properly.????????????????

Had to be the farang in the wrong, when have you ever heard a Thai admit they were wrong?

We all make mistakes ... Why is it not possible that the 'farang' made a mistake ? 

[pineapple01]

Guess who was doing the excessive speed to mangle the Bike that much. Was it Mr Look at Me. or the Working Thai Bloke.?. Big Headed Buggers most o them Bikers.????

[colinneil]

Just now, rvaviator said:

We all make mistakes ... Why is it not possible that the 'farang' made a mistake ? 

Did i say the truck driver was wrong? No, you are missing the point of my post.

The point i was making was when have you ever known a Thai admit they were wrong.

I was not blaming the truck driver, or the farang.

[innosiem]

31 minutes ago, webfact said:

A six wheel dump truck carrying earth was crossing the four lane road to enter a PTT gas station. 

 

this is the only part of concern (and could also be mistranslated, misinterpreted by reporter)
obviously if turning left he should be in the left lane and not need to cross any lanes
but sadly it is the norm here for many drivers to think they need a lot more space than they actually do to make a turn

but nobody can comment on blame for sure without any cam footage
just a reminder get a cam whether car or bike
and make sure it films both ways

[smedly]

 

how many lanes did this truck pull across ?

 

sounds to me like the truck was on the other side of the road and pulled across the lanes in front of the bike to get to the PTT station, maybe the witness should state exactly what he saw since it seems he was right there

Edited July 20, 2020 by smedly

[innosiem]

11 minutes ago, smedly said:

the story from the driver and the witness contradict each other

 

how many lanes did this truck pull across ?

 

sounds to me like the truck was on the other side of the road and pulled across the lanes in front of the bike to get to the PTT station

looking at the video, it looks like he was pulling into gas station as the accident happened
doesn't sound or look straight forward but without cam footage, who knows????‍♂️

but the truck hit the bike from behind
in many countries this would automatically be the driver that hit from behinds fault

Edited July 20, 2020 by innosiem

[pineapple01]

Oh what a Surprise a Truck pulls out in front of you. Most of us normal road users are stunned if they dont.!

[taninthai]

22 minutes ago, colinneil said:

The point i was making was when have you ever known a Thai admit they were wrong.

The Thai guy that drove his car into the side of mine got Straight out and admitted his fault????????????go easy on the huge generalisations.

[JimmyJ]

12 minutes ago, innosiem said:

but nobody can comment on blame for sure without any cam footage
just a reminder get a cam whether car or bike
and make sure it films both ways

No theft of cams mounted on bikes?

Edited July 20, 2020 by JimmyJ

[innosiem]

Just now, JimmyJ said:

No theft of cams mounted on bikes?

no idea what you are talking about.......
does the report state, the Belgian complained of his cam being stolen?
i didn't see that part

[bodga]

23 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

how many lanes did this truck pull across ?

 

sounds to me like the truck was on the other side of the road and pulled across the lanes in front of the bike to get to the PTT station, maybe the witness should state exactly what he saw since it seems he was right there

If the truck is  crossing the road its  HIS  job to  make sure its  safe and clear to do so, instead they will barge  across in the IM  BIGGER  THAN YOU mode get out of my way etc. Like almost all Thai drivers they havent a  clue, asked  my Wife yesterday what a RED TRIANGLE  road sign meant..........she didnt know, I told her it  meant "give  way", she said why dont they just put "slow" then, I said  because it does  not mean slow.

[bodga]

17 minutes ago, taninthai said:

The Thai guy that drove his car into the side of mine got Straight out and admitted his fault????????????go easy on the huge generalisations.

Which is  ok until later they may change their  minds.

[smedly]

20 minutes ago, innosiem said:

looking at the video, it looks like he was pulling into gas station as the accident happened
doesn't sound or look straight forward but without cam footage, who knows????‍♂️

but the truck hit the bike from behind
in many countries this would automatically be the driver that hit from behinds fault

the truck driver says he crossed 4 lanes - only possible from the far side

 

not sure how you work out the truck rear ended the motorbike

[eisfeld]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He had been riding a black Kawasaki Ninja. 

I don't think Kawa Ninjas come with a tall touring wind screen. Looks like a Versys to me which is a touring bike, a bit more likely than a sport bike also given that the guy was 58.

 

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Yes of course the truck driver was driving properly.????????????????

Had to be the farang in the wrong, when have you ever heard a Thai admit they were wrong?

That racist post isn't really helping. I've whitnessed plenty admiting wrong. Of course most people wont admit guilt in accidents. It's normal around the world.

[EVENKEEL]

Size matters, the MC rider bet and lost. This is the problem with riding too fast, you can't make corrections fast enough.

[Scot123]

3 hours ago, pineapple01 said:

Guess who was doing the excessive speed to mangle the Bike that much. Was it Mr Look at Me. or the Working Thai Bloke.?. Big Headed Buggers most o them Bikers.????

I'm a biker so are you aiming that at me? Stupid ignorant people should be very quite as they themselves may have an accident by talking utter <deleted> to the wrong person. I rode bikes since I was 17, been to many bike rallies where I would meet many professional people doctors, lawyers business men like myself and women. People from all walks of life. The best of the best and most trustworthy of people. I also rode in thailand for many years and the thai guys I new and rode with all came from good families and well educated good jobs and or good businesses. You have no idea what you are talking about. Thai roads are deadly for bikers and every other kind of motorist. My experience is that truck, bus and mini van drivers are some of the worst in the world.

[tifino]

3 hours ago, innosiem said:

no idea what you are talking about.......
does the report state, the Belgian complained of his cam being stolen?
i didn't see that part

he was too busy groaning "NO,No, nooo" - at the attendants shovelling him onto the red plastic board

[CorpusChristie]

The Belgium motor bike rider died .

[tifino]

Crossing the 4 lane road, seems more like he did a Uturn,

and clipped the back of the bike in his curve?

[pineapple01]

15 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

I'm a biker so are you aiming that at me? Stupid ignorant people should be very quite as they themselves may have an accident by talking utter <deleted> to the wrong person. I rode bikes since I was 17, been to many bike rallies where I would meet many professional people doctors, lawyers business men like myself and women. People from all walks of life. The best of the best and most trustworthy of people. I also rode in thailand for many years and the thai guys I new and rode with all came from good families and well educated good jobs and or good businesses. You have no idea what you are talking about. Thai roads are deadly for bikers and every other kind of motorist. My experience is that truck, bus and mini van drivers are some of the worst in the world.

Good For You.

[innosiem]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

the truck driver says he crossed 4 lanes - only possible from the far side

 

not sure how you work out the truck rear ended the motorbike

"was crossing the four lane road to" is not exactly the same as "crossed four lanes"
so this might be lost in translation or reporters understanding or style of writing or your interpretation.

 

 

  

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Another witness said that the foreigner had overtaken him at speed then the accident occurred in the blink of an eye

this implies they were both travelling in the same direction

This picture shows the truck hit the bike, if the bike was travelling in the same direction as the truck and the bike had just overtook the truck
then the bike must have been in front of the truck and the truck must have been behind the bike
resulting in a "rear end collision" at impact

This picture indicates the driver was pulling into the Gas station on the left,
unless he was doing a u-turn into the gas station which would seem unlikely but......TiT
the angle does not look like he was turning left, most would drive in through the exit,
and that would be a mighty fine u-turn by Thailands standards

i am not trying to imply who was to blame
the biker could have broke too soon
i literally had this happen last week driving through the mountains
the rider was weaving lane to lane going up the hills
he pulled right in front of me on a bend and slowed down as i am accelerating up the hill
to which i had to slam on the breaks
as he was just a few inches in front when he switched lanes

 

Edited July 20, 2020 by innosiem

[eisfeld]

16 minutes ago, innosiem said:

this implies they were both travelling in the same direction

A misunderstanding, it was "another whitness" that was overtaken by the motorcyclist, not the truck. So the rest of the conclusions which are based on this are unfortunately wrong.

 

BTW the truck doesn't suddenly stop at the moment of the collision so you can't tell by the pictures much. What was said was that he was crossing the road, not just changing lanes.

[innosiem]

6 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

A misunderstanding, it was "another whitness" that was overtaken by the motorcyclist, not the truck. So the rest of the conclusions which are based on this are unfortunately wrong.

 

BTW the truck doesn't suddenly stop at the moment of the collision so you can't tell by the pictures much. What was said was that he was crossing the road, not just changing lanes.

ok rephrase that, thanks @eisfeld
truck was turning in
maybe angle looks funny as after impact

so likely bike may have gone at speed
truck still in wrong if crossing onto other side of road before safe to do so

he might have done the usually poke his nose out that bit too much which is very common here

[rwill]

No matter whose fault it is if you enjoy living it is best not to ride motorbikes in Thailand.

[Scott Tracy]

It was always drummed into us, in the UK, as drivers/bike riders not to accept liability or express regret or anything that appeared to anyone that we accepted fault or blame in any collision. We were told it could well influence any insurance claim should that be proven to be the case. Whoever was at fault here, the Police will no doubt sort it out.

[Peterphuket]

8 hours ago, colinneil said:

Yes of course the truck driver was driving properly.????????????????

Had to be the farang in the wrong, when have you ever heard a Thai admit they were wrong?

Not born yet.

[Destiny1990]

Truck driver seems at fault since he ran into the bike. He should have kept more distance  Or lower his speed and or his anticipation was very poor. His statement blaming the farang is mean nothing.

[metisdead]

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