covid inoculations

[rupert the bear]

in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly and also a lot of non citizens id like to know the following,will UK embassy staff have this innoculation?will the thai staff?will we UK citizens and also tax payers? if the above can have it why cant we?i hold a UK passport and pay tax so i that i have that right if the staff do.

[Don Mega]

What inoculation are you talking about ?

 

The UK have only just started phase 3 of their coronavirus vaccine trial, doubt anything will be available to anybody "shortly".

[Eff1n2ret]

Why stop at the covid jab? If you think you're entitled to that, why not ask for a flue jab as well, and while you're about it, ointment for your piles?

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly

There's no evidence of this that I'm aware of. Do you have a source?

[johng]

What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ?

[Sheryl]

1 minute ago, johng said:

What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ?

 

They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials.

 

Most countries prefer to wait until a vaccine is proven safe and effective.

[howerde]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials.

 

Most countries prefer to wait until a vaccine is proven safe and effective.

Doesn't that mean years for proof?  other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed

 

[Pottinger]

Temper your expectations: https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/11/clinical-trial-success-rates-phase-and-therapeutic-area-14845

[sungod]

1 hour ago, johng said:

What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ?

Doing great, better than bleach.

[donnacha]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials.

I heard that, instead of Phase III trials, Russia is giving India a generous discount on 100m shots.

[Dumbastheycome]

So does anyone know of any  news good or bad about the Russian vaccine?

[Sheryl]

57 minutes ago, howerde said:

Doesn't that mean years for proof?  other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed

 

 

Can be faster if they enroll enough people.  A number of vaccine candidates are already well into Phase IIi and expected to have results by the end of the year.

[GroveHillWanderer]

18 hours ago, howerde said:

Doesn't that mean years for proof?  other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed

 

There's no requirement for phase 3 trials to last any specific length of time. It's more a question of getting enough people enrolled. You want to have enough people that any rare, "one-in-ten thousand" side effect is brought to light.

 

In the past it used to take much longer to get approval for each of the various regulatory phases and also to set up and administer clinical trials. In the UK for instance in the past it would sometimes take up to six months just to get your application for a clinical trial to be reviewed by the regulatory body.

 

Recruiting volunteers and setting up the trials could take equally long, especially when they was no particularly pressing need, with diseases that had been around for, in some cases, millennia and for which there were recognized treatments. Partly due to much of the research into HIV-AIDS, there are ready-made networks of trial volunteers and organisers on a scale that never existed in the past.

 

Also, due to the current critical situation with CoVid-19, regulatory authorities are moving much quicker, as are the researchers themselves. 

Edited October 5, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[rupert the bear]

astraneneca/oxford uni has the innoculation at phase 3.its in mass production,a full article is available in UK press ,look at the guardian for instance or on the other hand express.the gov has set out a plan already to give it to OAP homes then hospital staff then over 75s.so the infrastuctures there.they estimate to innoculate the total pop in 3 mnths!so that is why i posted what i did,some of the replies are informative and intelligent some far from it.some funny re russia but we are a bit off topic there!its an important question that needs to be asked and unfortunately many of us have had experience with the wiles of the UK embassy.the inconsistancies of the thai govt.we all wish to get back to work ,relationships etc and have our old lives back asap

[PingRoundTheWorld]

On 10/4/2020 at 11:35 AM, Don Mega said:

What inoculation are you talking about ?

 

The UK have only just started phase 3 of their coronavirus vaccine trial, doubt anything will be available to anybody "shortly".

AstraZeneca started phase 3 beginning of September. So did Moderna, Pfizer, and a few others. Without unforeseen delays (political included) they're all likely to have enough safety data to apply for approval within 1-2 months from now. Mass inoculations may already start before the end of the year, at least in countries where the issue isn't politicized. The European Medicines Agency already started a rolling review (meaning they'll review data as they receive it, accelerating the approval process) of AstraZeneca's vaccine.

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, howerde said:

Doesn't that mean years for proof?  other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed

 

Exactly. The first company to put one out will be minting it, but I won't be having it till proven safe.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/4/2020 at 5:31 PM, rupert the bear said:

in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly

 

 

If one comes out any time this year you can have it if you can get it, but many of us will be waiting to see if it's safe before we have it- probably in late 2021 or 2022.

Chances are there will be a vaccine- the profits will be enormous, but unsafe vaccines have been used before, far as I remember. Google "unsafe vaccine" to find out more.

[chickenslegs]

As the topic was posted in the Q&A – ask the Consular Team section, I expect he was hoping for a reply from the Consular Team

Edited October 5, 2020 by chickenslegs

[stretch5163]

On 10/5/2020 at 11:10 AM, chickenslegs said:

As the topic was posted in the Q&A – ask the Consular Team section, I expect he was hoping for a reply from the Consular Team

What you mean your not happy with the Sudo Consular Experts answers.......lol

Edited October 11, 2020 by stretch5163
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[blackcab]

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