Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor

 

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The acting head of Thailand's infectious disease department has said that there is not much difference between a ten day and a 14 day quarantine when it comes to risk factors. 

 

The comments come as the country moves towards shortening the time that visitors to the kingdom must spend in quarantine before they are allowed to travel further afield.

 

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said nearly all cases of Covid are spotted within the first ten days, reported Bangkok Business News.

 

Anyone who has the disease after that would be asymptomatic and would represent a very low risk of passing on the disease.

 

As evidence of this he cited the now well documented cases of the DJ and the French woman who infected no one else despite coming into contact with plenty of people.

 

With mask wearing, social distancing and tracing to follow the ten days, Dr Opas was confident that reducing the quarantine to 10 days represented no significant change in the risk factor.

 

Now the question remains as to whether doing that will make any difference to the decision of tourists to visit Thailand, notes Thaivisa. 

 

Many critics claim that even insisting on ten days quarantine, with all the expense and paperwork, is enough to put anyone off coming to the country.

 

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2 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor

And the tourists agree. 

9 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor.
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Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said nearly all cases of Covid are spotted within the first ten days, ...

If nearly all cases of Covid are spotted within the first ten days, then the quarantaine period could be limited to 7 days on arrival, considering the required negative test 72 hours before boarding.

With 7 days quarantaine instead of currently 14 (actually 15), at least some real tourists might consider a 4 week holiday in Thailand.

But even if they would reduce it from 14 to 7 days, for sure a 'track and trace bracelet' would be imposed for the 2nd week, making it once again a No Thank You offer...

China just this week totally banned several more countries from entering their country.

 

As the economic desperation grows here and they consider relaxing rules and requirements, I think they may be setting themselves up for some very difficult Covid times around the first quarter of next year.

 

First time I see a halfway decent and sensible statement of a Thai doctor regarding Covid, which is on par to international knowledge. Quite different to the weekly rants of these scaremongers Yong and Thira.

 

But now, how about not only talking to medical doctors such as him, but also to economists and psychologists, and trying a more holistic approach to lead the country out of the Covid mess? 

 

How about trying to find a way out of the disaster also economically, and to avoid that desperated people lose everything and commit suicide due to the economical hardship? How about trying to get rid of the Covid paranoia and accepting a certain infection rate? How about opening the borders without creating panic among the populace and without bothering measures creating head-shaking and disgust among the guests, like wristband trackers and mandatory overpriced insurances of local insurers? How about replacing quarantine by extensive testing just to allow rescuing the country economically?

Not sure about that. There had to be a good reason from seeing cases emerge up to the 14 day period. Only sure cure is a vaccines and to boycott China from making and releasing it. Did anyone read that China will not let the WHO go in and investigate where it truly came from? 

Most people go on holiday for 2 or maybe 3 weeks so even a week in quarantine will put them off from coming to Thailand. Also the paperwork hurdles to overcome to even get on an aircraft are horrendously difficult not to mention the first week spent locked up in your hotel room and the expensive insurance requirements. 

So then the decision with 14 days quarantine was completely wrong. There cannot be any other explanation.

Despite the UK lockdown my nephew has just hopped a plane from the UK to Tenerife, covid test, negative, off you go, people are taking breaks in Europe right now

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor

No, there is not much difference, just 4 short Days

4 short Days less to actually register any possible infections and keep those Statistics  looking good.

6 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Despite the UK lockdown my nephew has just hopped a plane from the UK to Tenerife, covid test, negative, off you go, people are taking breaks in Europe right now

You can't compare this small island with Thailand. A lot of Thailands economy doesn't depend on tourism. If you get Corona in these areas because you want to get some tourist money the overall damage could be huge. And the tourist areas might not be able to avoid lock downs then. So in the end it could be a a very expensive experiment. But on the other hand some people miss the income from tourism and there seems to be more and more pressure... 

21 minutes ago, Oldie said:

You can't compare this small island with Thailand. A lot of Thailands economy doesn't depend on tourism. If you get Corona in these areas because you want to get some tourist money the overall damage could be huge. And the tourist areas might not be able to avoid lock downs then. So in the end it could be a a very expensive experiment. But on the other hand some people miss the income from tourism and there seems to be more and more pressure... 

I don't envy the conundrum Thailand finds itself facing, but at some stage the bullet will have to be bitten......I merely point out that there are alternatives available, people are making choices, and humans being creatures of habit, once the old habit is broken the new one becomes attractive via familiarity. It looks like Thailand are already in for the long haul.

8 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

And the tourists agree. 

 But will the the quarantine for Thai and foreigners returning to Bkk on repat. flights be reduced to 10 days?

 

Any members seen any mention of this in the media reports?

 

Rubbish. There have been some cases which tested positive only after 21 and 27 days. 14 is a happy medium to protect the rest of us, don't you agree?

8 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Anyone who has the disease after that would be asymptomatic and would represent a very low risk of passing on the disease.

So then why do they insist on placing you onto a hospital isolation ward that will cost you between 200,000 and 300,000 baht.  This doctor is just bat<deleted> crazy with saying this.  Totally contradicts other Thai Government officials.

There has been , as China states to the world 137 new asymptomatic in the last 3 days, last week there were a number of cases in Shanghai no figure was noted. A friend who works in Guangzhou said there are many more than what is released to the media. 14 days is a safe quarantine time as cases come to light immediately up to and including day 12.  

9 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor

And it's a fine line between keeping out Covid or inviting it back in.

9 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

And the tourists agree. 

As does Anutin & Pitat

2 hours ago, Oldie said:

So then the decision with 14 days quarantine was completely wrong. There cannot be any other explanation.

Only the financial one from all the bars.

10 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Not much difference between 10 day and 14 day quarantine, says doctor

True! It is just 4 days difference.... Don't need to be a doctor to see that ????

8 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Not sure about that. There had to be a good reason from seeing cases emerge up to the 14 day period. Only sure cure is a vaccines and to boycott China from making and releasing it. Did anyone read that China will not let the WHO go in and investigate where it truly came from? 

Yes, they indicated that they did not allow investigators to investigate anything~even today.  That's what I read, and that is why Trump shouldn't lie so much~I didn't actually believe him when he said WHO was being manipulated

Especially if you do the second and final test in a 14 day quarantine on the 11th day--as was done with the French tourist.  

So then why do they insist on placing you onto a hospital isolation ward that will cost you between 200,000 and 300,000 baht.  This doctor is just bat<deleted> crazy with saying this.  Totally contradicts other Thai Government officials.

 

BECAUSE...

You could catch it on the flight into the LOS...as the Thais are NOT required to test prior to flight!

Crazy stuff...

A post attempting to link to some conspiracy sites has been removed. 

In Europe travel agents are currently advertising 2 week holidays in Thailand from early December, without mentioning anything about quarantine. This leads me to think, that it has already been decided, that Thailand will remove any demands of quarantine when the high season starts.

4 minutes ago, Xonax said:

In Europe travel agents are currently advertising 2 week holidays in Thailand from early December, without mentioning anything about quarantine. This leads me to think, that it has already been decided, that Thailand will remove any demands of quarantine when the high season starts.

 

  Link?

19 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Did anyone read that China will not let the WHO go in and investigate where it truly came from? 

How about a link... thank you.

2 hours ago, PumpkinEater said:

So then why do they insist on placing you onto a hospital isolation ward that will cost you between 200,000 and 300,000 baht.  This doctor is just bat<deleted> crazy with saying this.  Totally contradicts other Thai Government officials.

 

BECAUSE...

You could catch it on the flight into the LOS...as the Thais are NOT required to test prior to flight!

Crazy stuff...

You missed the Asymptomatic portion.  If Asymptomatic why isolate you as if what the good doctor says is truthful.  Not a slam on him but a slam on the Thai Government for a pure money grab, as you could self isolate at your residence and a nurse could come by to check on you.

34 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

... you could self isolate at your residence and a nurse could come by to check on you.

 

In an ideal world, yes. Unfortunately, in many cases it's been shown that some people can't be trusted (especially in western countries) and the knee jerk reaction from governments is to penalise the majority due to the inconsideration of the minority.

9 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

In an ideal world, yes. Unfortunately, in many cases it's been shown that some people can't be trusted (especially in western countries) and the knee jerk reaction from governments is to penalise the majority due to the inconsideration of the minority.

You are 100% Correct, self righteous individuals make for mandatory isolation in a secure facility an unfortunate reality.