Arthritis

[Neeranam]

Seems I have got some of this in my shoulder; been painful for a few months, aggravated by RSI(using a mouse for work 10 hours a day sometimes).

Had a consultation with a physio in Australia who suggested it is mainly weak muscle aggravated by arthritis. All they could suggest is ibuprofen for reduction of inflammation and some exercises. They also suggested better posture by sitting on a large blow up ball! 

Contemplating going to see a specialist here in Thailand, does anyone know such a doctor/hospital?

Only painful when doing certain things, at certain angles. The physio got me lifting my right arm by a rod supported by left arm(good one) and there was no pain, which suggests muscular. Anyway, I'm not convinced if it is arthritis or not; is there any way I could find out for sure? I am 55 and exercise every day -  run 5 km and do yoga/tai chi. 

 

[xylophone]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Seems I have got some of this in my shoulder; been painful for a few months, aggravated by RSI(using a mouse for work 10 hours a day sometimes).

Had a consultation with a physio in Australia who suggested it is mainly weak muscle aggravated by arthritis. All they could suggest is ibuprofen for reduction of inflammation and some exercises. They also suggested better posture by sitting on a large blow up ball! 

Contemplating going to see a specialist here in Thailand, does anyone know such a doctor/hospital?

Only painful when doing certain things, at certain angles. The physio got me lifting my right arm by a rod supported by left arm(good one) and there was no pain, which suggests muscular. Anyway, I'm not convinced if it is arthritis or not; is there any way I could find out for sure? I am 55 and exercise every day -  run 5 km and do yoga/tai chi. 

 

 I have some form of arthritis in my right shoulder, mainly from playing tennis for quite a few years, and not having a correct grip on the racquet, which has come back to haunt me in later years.

Ibuprofen does help if it's playing up, and as for RSI from using a mouse, I had the same thing many years ago and bought the Dragon Naturally Speaking program, so I can dictate into the computer and also operate it from a microphone (I have a headset) and that has helped tremendously.

Still available online and extremely easy-to-use.

Sorry I can't be of more help with regards to a specialist, however hopefully the above tips may be of some use to you.
 

[ICELANDMAN]

I assume you have two hands so use the second hand and practice using it the mouse.

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

 I have some form of arthritis in my right shoulder, mainly from playing tennis for quite a few years, and not having a correct grip on the racquet, which has come back to haunt me in later years.

Ibuprofen does help if it's playing up, and as for RSI from using a mouse, I had the same thing many years ago and bought the Dragon Naturally Speaking program, so I can dictate into the computer and also operate it from a microphone (I have a headset) and that has helped tremendously.

Still available online and extremely easy-to-use.

Sorry I can't be of more help with regards to a specialist, however hopefully the above tips may be of some use to you.
 

Thanks. I have played a lot of tennis in my time too, maybe a factor; I hadn't thought of that.

I hope my tennis days are not over, golf too.

Due tot he nature of my work, translating/editing, it's not possible to use that thing, but thanks ???? 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

I assume you have two hands so use the second hand and practice using it the mouse.

Good idea, thanks, I'll try that. 

[ICELANDMAN]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Good idea, thanks, I'll try that. 

 

God gave us two hands, why use just one? ????

[CraigInBangkok]

 

I had a lot of wrist/hand problems from using a mouse for many hours per day and now pretty much only ever use a wacom tablet and pen which has worked for me 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

 

I had a lot of wrist/hand problems from using a mouse for many hours per day and now pretty much only ever use a wacom tablet and pen which has worked for me 

Thanks, can that be used like a mouse, copying/pasting etc?

[CraigInBangkok]

yeah, I use it as a mouse ... you can configure the 2 buttons on the pen as you like and the tablet has buttons and wheel which you can configure for shortcuts depending what app you are using. As for copying and pasting, I use ctrl+c and ctrl+v but I could do it from the pen.

 

 

[Sheryl]

A simnple Xray will show if it is arthritis

 

best shoulder specialist in Thailand is Dr. Mason at Bumrungrad

 

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/doctors/Mason-Porramatikul

 

He is also at Vajira Hospitral (government), I don't know if he can be seen via an after hours clinic there or not

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, Sheryl said:

A simnple Xray will show if it is arthritis

 

best shoulder specialist in Thailand is Dr. Mason at Bumrungrad

 

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/doctors/Mason-Porramatikul

 

He is also at Vajira Hospitral (government), I don't know if he can be seen via an after hours clinic there or not

He looks good, thank you. 

[owenm]

I was seeing a Rheumatologist at Siriraj Private Hospital. Consultation was around 500bht, and then a thorough series of blood tests for CRP and liver function test will then determine whether you have RA markers. Blood test about one hour and about 2000bht and will confirm or not if you have rheumatoid arthritis. 

I believe this would be far more accurate than simply an X-ray on the one shoulder. 

[1FinickyOne]

18 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

God gave us two hands, why use just one?

usually because one is dominant... 

[ignis]

what works for me...

 

 wet towel put in Microwave, to warm rub shoulder with Cream 'Plaivana' [Muscular Pain Relief ] place warm towel on shoulder and leave,.....  ideal when at PC as only holding mouse  [Prescribed by Dr at Hospital]

 

@ 70 guess rheumatoid arthritis can be expected 

[xylophone]

20 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

I assume you have two hands so use the second hand and practice using it the mouse.

Good point, and for the OP I have done that and use my left hand for the mouse, and change the mouse settings on my pc accordingly.

 

With that and the Dragon app (which can command all of the actions required on any programme....copy, cut, paste, add, delete, move, insert, etc) the RSI in my right wrist has eased markedly. 

[ICELANDMAN]

1 hour ago, kenk24 said:

usually because one is dominant... 

 

No for everyone, Is dominant because you will use only one, your brain no make any difference right or left, is only question the practice because you choice one normally when your are little boys or maybe because your parents choice for you but you not remember because why you are left or right.

[whaleboneman]

When I worked I used a cordless laser mouse on my leg rather than on the desk. It seemed a more normal position for long sessions. I also switch left and right whenever one feels tired.

[ChipButty]

I started to get in my hands and left shoulder, Im on the computer most of the day, I started to take a tablespoon full of Virgin Olive Oil almost everyday and put it on my food, for me it's done the trick no aches or pains and Im 70 years young 

[jomtienisgood]

21 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

I assume you have two hands so use the second hand and practice using it the mouse.

And what is he supposed to do with the other hand? Hang on to a beer? 55555

[jomtienisgood]

32 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I started to get in my hands and left shoulder, Im on the computer most of the day, I started to take a tablespoon full of Virgin Olive Oil almost everyday and put it on my food, for me it's done the trick no aches or pains and Im 70 years young 

Virgins do seem to help....????????????????

[HarrySeaman]

I injured by right shoulder sanding the bottom of a sailboat I owned as part of the repairs.  Weeks of holding a heavy sander and moving it up and down on the bottom of the boat is not good for your joints.  I got to the point that I couldn't raise my arm higher then my shoulder.  The exercise I was prescribed was to place my hand on a wall and "walk" the hand up the wall with my fingers several times a day.  Fortunately the injury wasn't bad and I recovered in a couple of months and because of the exercise I recovered full movement.

 

Ten years ago I developed rheumatoid arthritis.  At one point I was in constant pain, couldn't move my shoulders enough to put on a shirt, or take one off, walk up or down stairs because of my knees, and my "grip" was an open hand with half bent fingers.  My cardiologist sent me to a rheumatologist at Ramkhamhaeng Hospital, Bangkok.  One of the things the rheumatologist at Ramkhamhaeng Hospital            prescribed was Difelene gel rubbed onto the effected joints until it is dry two or three times a day.  Of note is that he also prescribed rehabilitation which included daily damp towel heat treatments, help with moving my joints, and Difelene gel application at the end of the rehabilitation treatment. 

 

Difelene Gel Information

 

Ibuprofen gives you quick relief for minor aches and pains and will help a little with the pain and inflammation of arthritis but Difelene gel is far more effective in the long run for arthritis or joint injuries. 

[kokopelli]

There are two types of arthritis, Rheumatoid and Osteoarthritis. If osteoarthritis, a simple X Ray will show if you have it. Osteoarthritis is a wearing down of the cartilage between the bones of the shoulder joint.

Sometimes cortisone injections do relieve the pain for  months at a time.

Either you live with it or eventually get a shoulder joint replacement. I live with it!

There are also a number of other causes for shoulder pain and only a doctor can determine the cause.

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, ICELANDMAN said:

 

No for everyone, Is dominant because you will use only one, your brain no make any difference right or left, is only question the practice because you choice one normally when your are little boys or maybe because your parents choice for you but you not remember because why you are left or right.

It is not a matter of choice - it is genetic... my father is left handed and both my brother and I are left handed... many years ago, they used to try an change some lefties to right handed, but I assume they have come to accept the genetic difference - about 10% of the population is left handed... 

 

for me, there was no choice. I could throw a ball with my left hand, not with my right... found this out very early in life. 

[hotchilli]

22 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Thanks. I have played a lot of tennis in my time too, maybe a factor; I hadn't thought of that.

I hope my tennis days are not over, golf too.

Due tot he nature of my work, translating/editing, it's not possible to use that thing, but thanks ???? 

i have heard the term "frozen shoulder" not sure what it covers but google it and see what pops up.

[GreasyFingers]

22 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I am 55

In my early 50's I had a shoulder operation for a torn rotator cuff tendon. The doctor cleaned the arthritis out at the same time, so you are not too young to have it. I use dyclofenac whenever it is a problem from physical work.

[GreasyFingers]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

i have heard the term "frozen shoulder" not sure what it covers but google it and see what pops up.

Badly torn rotator cuff tendon.

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

I started to get in my hands and left shoulder, Im on the computer most of the day, I started to take a tablespoon full of Virgin Olive Oil almost everyday and put it on my food, for me it's done the trick no aches or pains and Im 70 years young 

why almost every day? do you forget? maybe you also don't remember that you were in pain. 

[xylophone]

4 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

It is not a matter of choice - it is genetic... my father is left handed and both my brother and I are left handed... many years ago, they used to try an change some lefties to right handed, but I assume they have come to accept the genetic difference - about 10% of the population is left handed... 

 

for me, there was no choice. I could throw a ball with my left hand, not with my right... found this out very early in life. 

Normally I would agree, because I am naturally right-handed and right-footed (when it comes to football) and can do absolutely nothing with my left hand, BUT when it came to changing the mouse to my left hand, it was a piece of cake, as the saying goes.

 

Now I happily "mouse away" on my computer with my left hand and it's just as efficient as doing it with my right hand!

[Asquith Production]

I was told in the UK that I I had mild arthritis. Since coming to Thailand and the warm weather I have had no problems.

[1FinickyOne]

7 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Normally I would agree, because I am naturally right-handed and right-footed (when it comes to football) and can do absolutely nothing with my left hand, BUT when it came to changing the mouse to my left hand, it was a piece of cake, as the saying goes.

 

Now I happily "mouse away" on my computer with my left hand and it's just as efficient as doing it with my right hand!

Yes, because that is a very simple task... you can probably open a door equally as well too... but try writing and see if it is comfortable... and there are ambidextrous people too...