'We have to be remembered for what's been done,' Trump says on early return to Washington

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said:

I see the crystal ball has changed hands again, another greatand wonderous Oz in our midst 

 

Just passin' by. HNY.

[PatOngo]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

Two U.S. B-52 bombers flew over the Middle East on Wednesday

Grow a pair Donald and send a few over the South China Sea!

[Walker88]

Other than just being deeply immersed in the cult and having little association with reality, their thoughts and actions under the control of their bloated, mendacious Pied Piper of Pabulum, it is difficult for those not in the cult to even begin to understand what 45's appeal is. He's ignorant, deceitful, intellectually lazy, willfully ignorant, disgusting physically with a total absence of self-discipline, corrupt to the core, woefully incompetent, a racist, a misogynist, an alleged rapist, vindictive, childish, a whiner, and understands nothing of the ideals upon which the US was based and directed toward on its work-in-progress journey to democracy and equality. In other words, he has absolutely no redeeming social value, other than perhaps as a joke.

 

That anyone supports him screams of the total moral decay, ignorance and weakness of far too many citizens.

[teacherclaire]

Let's Tweet him. 

[RJRS1301]

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Other than just being deeply immersed in the cult and having little association with reality, their thoughts and actions under the control of their bloated, mendacious Pied Piper of Pabulum, it is difficult for those not in the cult to even begin to understand what 45's appeal is. He's ignorant, deceitful, intellectually lazy, willfully ignorant, disgusting physically with a total absence of self-discipline, corrupt to the core, woefully incompetent, a racist, a misogynist, an alleged rapist, vindictive, childish, a whiner, and understands nothing of the ideals upon which the US was based and directed toward on its work-in-progress journey to democracy and equality. In other words, he has absolutely no redeeming social value, other than perhaps as a joke.

 

That anyone supports him screams of the total moral decay, ignorance and weakness of far too many citizens.

I assume you do not like this person?

 

[Lacessit]

If nothing else, Trump will be remembered by the rest of the world as someone who diminished America's standing in the world significantly. Most democratic leaders quickly understood nothing Trump said could be relied on. Tyrants such as Putin and Kim, on the other hand, knew he could be played like a fiddle.

I'm quite sure to Trump supporters, that's irrelevant. It goes with their insularity, and conviction the USA is the best. It's not.

OTOH, I'm equally sure many thinking Americans are alarmed and ashamed of the decline in American prestige. On the coronavirus front alone, the USA has become a pariah nation.

Edited January 1, 2021 by Lacessit

[Skeptic7]

OK here goes...a very short list of your "accomplishments"

 

1. Inherit possibly the best economy EVER and claim as your doing

2. Lie about everything

3. Mock, chide and be derisive to everyone

4. Pretend to be everything you're not and deny everything you are

5. Make ???? up every single time you open big mouth

6. Project all the illegal things you do on others

7. Promote violence, hate and racism

8. Deflect and deny everything 

9. Be an arrogant, ignorant <deleted>

10. Lie about what you knew early on about Covid-19 (more lies to go with #2)

11. Attempt to delegitimize democracy 

12. Attempt a coup

13. Pout, whine and complain about how unfair everyone is to you, while being the most unfair a-hole of all

 

Take a hike LOSER. ????

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by Skeptic7

[joecoolfrog]

10 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Do to his incompetence, my stock portfolio was up almost 30%.  My greatest year as an investor.

So, thank you Mr. Trump I will never forget you.

You are to be congratulated on your foresight in investing heavily in the domestic undertaker sector.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, RocketDog said:

Those of us who have lived through it will not forget soon and will regale our progeny for decades of how close America came to being a failed state. 

 

He and his spawn are still out there, and will be again in some form 4 years from now... Kind of hard to say what the outcome will be next time around.

 

At this point, given than 70+ million Americans actually seem to believe the rubbish this guy is putting out even after 4 unabashed years of it, I'm not taking any bets at this point on the "failed state" proposition, much to my dismay.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

i suggest a "covid remembrance day" when the friends and relatives of the 350,000 (soon to reach half a million) dead can mourn their loss.

 

january 28 would be a suitable date.

 

“This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency...This is going to be the roughest thing you face" Trump’s National Security Advisor to Trump

 

https://doggett.house.gov/media-center/blog-posts/timeline-trump-s-coronavirus-responses

 

Biden apparently already has something like that in the works, at least for this year:

 

Biden's inaugural committee hosting national memorial for Covid-19 victims on January 19

Washington, DC (CNN)President-elect Joe Biden's inaugural committee on Thursday announced that it is hosting a national memorial to remember and honor the lives lost to Covid-19 and is asking cities and towns around the country to participate.

The memorial will take place at 5:30 p.m. ET on January 19 and will include a lighting ceremony at the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool in Washington, DC, according to a news release from the Presidential Inauguration Committee.

 

The committee says they are inviting cities and towns across the country "to join Washington, D.C. in illuminating buildings and ringing church bells at 5:30 p.m. ET in a national moment of unity and remembrance."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/presidential-inaugural-committee-covid-19-memorial/index.html

 

I'm guessing, Trump won't be attending or participating. He's already done enough, thanks very much....

[Kelsall]

Biden is mentioned several times in the OP, but he doesn't seem to be saying much about all this. Is he giving any speeches, any interviews?

[cycolista]

11 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Biden is mentioned several times in the OP, but he doesn't seem to be saying much about all this. Is he giving any speeches, any interviews?

Yes, many times now. 

[sirineou]

17 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Biden is mentioned several times in the OP, but he doesn't seem to be saying much about all this. Is he giving any speeches, any interviews?

Sure many, If you stop watching the Fox News Entertainment network only, you would see some.  

[ChouDoufu]

25 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Biden is mentioned several times in the OP, but he doesn't seem to be saying much about all this. Is he giving any speeches, any interviews?

 

have you heard about the googles?  helps you find all sorts of stuff if you really wanna know.

 

 

Biden Again Criticizes Trump's COVID-19 Response, Vows To Speed Vaccine Production

 

In a speech addressing the coronavirus pandemic on Tuesday,...

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/29/951254331/biden-again-criticizes-trumps-covid-response-vows-to-speed-vaccine-production

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

Biden is mentioned several times in the OP, but he doesn't seem to be saying much about all this. Is he giving any speeches, any interviews?

He's probably too busy surrounding himself with professional people who know what they are doing, and listening to their advice.

[PattayaJames]

8 hours ago, J Town said:

And, right on cue, a 45 supporter brings up the "Russia collusion" bs with conviction, though months ago a bipartisan investigation revealed the Russians DID collude with Manafort et al to help get 45 elected. My keyboard is worn out for looking up and posting the facts, but I'll do it one more time. Hey, it's a new year, maybe at least ONE supporter will wake up and smell the new year/new coffee. PLEASE NOTE this is a "dot gov" web site and it includes BOTH PARTIES!

Report_Volume2.pdf (senate.gov)

 

 

That's an 85 page document, I am sure you won't mind pointing specifically to where it proves your assertion. 

 

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8 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

 

That's an 85 page document, I am sure you won't mind pointing specifically to where it proves your assertion. 

 

Actually it's the fifth report of the Senate Intelligence committee that gets into collusion. Specifically Paul Manafort. Here's a link:

report_volume5.pdf (senate.gov)

[PattayaJames]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually it's the fifth report of the Senate Intelligence committee that gets into collusion. Specifically Paul Manafort. Here's a link:

report_volume5.pdf (senate.gov)

 

Well thanks for that, glad I did not waste my time reading the 85 pages.

 

That's a 966 page document, I am sure you won't mind pointing specifically to where it proves your assertion.

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by PattayaJames

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9 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

 

That's an 85 page document, I am sure you won't mind pointing specifically to where it proves your assertion. 

 

Also, the Trump administration has refused to release most of the Mueller report by asserting executive privilege. Mueller has specifically stated the the report does not absolve Trump of  committing obstruction of justice. But since it's Justice Dept policy that a sitting President can't be indicted, there wasn't much he could do on that score except gather as much evidence as he could to preserve it for possible future legal action. One of the possible grounds for obstruction charges was that Trump encouraged Manafort not to cooperate with the investigation.

Read the Mueller Report: Searchable Document and Index - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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Just now, PattayaJames said:

 

Well thanks for that, glad I did not waste my time reading the 85 pages.

 

That's an 966 page document, I am sure you won't mind pointing specifically to where it proves your assertion.

 

It has a table of contents. Look up Paul Manafort. 

[PattayaJames]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Also, the Trump administration has refused to release most of the Mueller report by asserting executive privilege. Mueller has specifically stated the the report does not absolve Trump of  committing obstruction of justice. But since it's Justice Dept policy that a sitting President can't be indicted, there wasn't much he could do on that score except gather as much evidence as he could to preserve it for possible future legal action. One of the possible grounds for obstruction charges was that Trump encouraged Manafort not to cooperate with the investigation.

Read the Mueller Report: Searchable Document and Index - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

Hang on I thought we had collusion proof now you are talking obstruction of justice? 

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1 minute ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Hang on I thought we had collusion proof now you are talking obstruction of justice? 

Trump may have committed obstruction of justice by offering Manafort the possibility of a pardon if he didn't cooperate with the investigation. Manafort had strong ties with Konstantine Klimik.

[PattayaJames]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It has a table of contents. Look up Paul Manafort. 

 

That's 110 pages. Just point me to the good stuff.

[PattayaJames]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Trump may have committed obstruction of justice by offering Manafort the possibility of a pardon if he didn't cooperate with the investigation.

 

Can you point to the evidence of this? 

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

That's 110 pages. Just point me to the good stuff.

Just start on page 27. By the time you get to 30 there will be some good stuff for you.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Can you point to the evidence of this? 

Unfortunately, the Trump administration has invoked executive privilege for most of this report. We know that Barr was castigated by Judge Walton for his misleading statements about the report. We'll all have to wait till at least Jan 20 to find out what was inside that report that the Trump administration didn't want Congress or the American public to see. Unless, of course, the House and Senate vote to reject the electoral college vote or Trump invokes the Insurrection Act to justify calling in the military to overturn the election results.

[PattayaJames]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Unfortunately, the Trump administration has invoked executive privilege for most of this report. We know that Barr was castigated by Judge Walton for his misleading statements about the report. We'll all have to wait till at least Jan 20 to find out what was inside that report that the Trump administration didn't want Congress or the American public to see. Unless, of course, the House and Senate vote to reject the electoral college vote or Trump invokes the Insurrection Act to justify calling in the military to overturn the election results.

 

That is a no then and let's hope for one of the last 2 options. 

[placeholder]

Just now, PattayaJames said:

 

That is a no then and let's hope for one of the last 2 options. 

Not exactly. We do know that the Mueller report said one of the grounds for possible obstruction of justice charges was Trump's conduct in relation to Manafort. So clearly there is evidence in the report to support this contention. We just haven't gotten to see it yet. Most likely because Trump has absolutely nothing to fear if the information is divulged.

[pomchop]

16 hours ago, JoePai said:

The word is 'Delusional'

Demented, Despicable, Deranged, Disgusting, Deplorable and DUMB are a few more words that apply to the Trump cult.

[Pat1888]

What a Man what a President as achievement's go he's been the best POTUS since Ronald Reagan.

As an Infantryman of 25 years I was particularly impressed with the way he gave the Pentagon the mission command to annihilate the ISIS Caliphate and took the the restrictive Rules of Engagement off our Troops and allowed them to do their job. The way he supported our Servicemen and Servicewomen was second to none. That's why he will always be held in such high esteem by our Military our Law enforcement and our Patriotic People. Pro Military Pro Law enforcement Pro Constitution. 

 

Unlike his predecessor and his successor.

 

God Bless President Donald J Trump.