House impeaches Trump after U.S. Capitol siege; his fate in Senate hands

[J Town]

13 hours ago, mikebike said:

Yeah... to find the next insane candidate to push - he couldn't keep control of 45. I believe Bannon is far more of a threat than 45.

I watched an episode of "The Circus" where John Heilemann and Bannon watched a 45 rally together. Bannon has a frightening view of the world and is very much a cunning, evil man.

[Salerno]

 

That reminded me of a part of his last spiel that I thought would have garnered more attention. Not "our Party" or "the Republican Party" not even "Americans" but:

 

 

What exactly did he mean by "our movement"?

 

 

Edited January 18, 2021 by onthedarkside
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[simple1]

Military have declined trump's request for 21 gun salute and military band when he departs Washington by plane on 20th.

 

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2021/01/18/trump-farewell-rejected/

Edited January 18, 2021 by simple1

[J Town]

22 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Military have declined trump's request for 21 gun salute and military band when he departs Washington by plane on 20th.

 

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2021/01/18/trump-farewell-rejected/

Best news today!

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, J Town said:

Best news today!

Absolutely! It turns out there are lots of consequences to being impeached twice,  being the worst president in history, and inciting a terrorist insurrection against your own government. Who knew?

[Jeffr2]

Seems Trump and his enablers are going to cash in soon.  What a corrupt administration and corrupt people.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html
 

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Prospect of Pardons in Final Days Fuels Market to Buy Access to Trump

 

The president’s allies have collected tens of thousands of dollars — and potentially much more — from people seeking pardons.

 

One lobbyist, Brett Tolman, a former federal prosecutor who has been advising the White House on pardons and commutations, has monetized his clemency work, collecting tens of thousands of dollars, and possibly more, in recent weeks to lobby the White House for clemency for the son of a former Arkansas senator; the founder of the notorious online drug marketplace Silk Road; and a Manhattan socialite who pleaded guilty in a fraud scheme.

 

 

[Berkshire]

39 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Military have declined trump's request for 21 gun salute and military band when he departs Washington by plane on 20th.

 

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2021/01/18/trump-farewell-rejected/

Hmmm...interesting.  While I welcome the news, I haven't seen this on any major MSM news feed.  I would think it would be big news, that the military flatout rejected Trump.  It has been reported that Trump is planning a small farewell Wednesday morning....

 

[The event is scheduled for 8 a.m. at Joint Base Andrews just outside the nation’s capital, where the outgoing president will make his departure aboard Air Force One for Florida. Invitations have been circulated to supporters, including former administration officials and other backers, asking them to arrive by 7:15 a.m.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-farewell-planned-for-wednesday-morning-ahead-of-biden-oath/ar-BB1cQmbb

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Hmmm...interesting.  While I welcome the news, I haven't seen this on any major MSM news feed.  I would think it would be big news, that the military flatout rejected Trump.  It has been reported that Trump is planning a small farewell Wednesday morning....

 

[The event is scheduled for 8 a.m. at Joint Base Andrews just outside the nation’s capital, where the outgoing president will make his departure aboard Air Force One for Florida. Invitations have been circulated to supporters, including former administration officials and other backers, asking them to arrive by 7:15 a.m.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-farewell-planned-for-wednesday-morning-ahead-of-biden-oath/ar-BB1cQmbb

starting to come out now in many media outlets....

 

FANTASTIC NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's wasted tax payer dollars for a criminal.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Trump is going to want to go out with the focus on him. He'll time is pardonpallooza just at the time to take the focus off Biden and get the headlines if he can. 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

starting to come out now in many media outlets....

 

FANTASTIC NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's wasted tax payer dollars for a criminal.

Trump gutted the Pentagon and replaced with loyal political operatives and yet couldn't get the approval for a tradition Armed Forces Farewell. Even 1st termers like George Bush and Bill Clinton for the full farewell. He better leave on Air Force One before the inauguration or he need to ask approval from Biden. So fittingly embarrassing for a disastrous President who will leave the country deeply divided and in fear. 

[J Town]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Trump gutted the Pentagon and replaced with loyal political operatives and yet couldn't get the approval for a tradition Armed Forces Farewell. Even 1st termers like George Bush and Bill Clinton for the full farewell. He better leave on Air Force One before the inauguration or he need to ask approval from Biden. So fittingly embarrassing for a disastrous President who will leave the country deeply divided and in fear. 

I suspect those 45 loyalists in the Pentagon knew which way the wind was blowing and merely took the positions so they could pad their cv's. Even if the traitor-in-chief tries anything crazy, those who are supposed to carry out the orders could easily delay/ignore the crazy.

 

Bet your bottom dollar/baht/euro/whatever that those loyalists will be invited to blow away within the first week.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Hmmm...interesting.  While I welcome the news, I haven't seen this on any major MSM news feed.  I would think it would be big news, that the military flatout rejected Trump.  It has been reported that Trump is planning a small farewell Wednesday morning....

 

[The event is scheduled for 8 a.m. at Joint Base Andrews just outside the nation’s capital, where the outgoing president will make his departure aboard Air Force One for Florida. Invitations have been circulated to supporters, including former administration officials and other backers, asking them to arrive by 7:15 a.m.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-farewell-planned-for-wednesday-morning-ahead-of-biden-oath/ar-BB1cQmbb

 

Story originated from DefenseOne

 

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2021/01/pentagon-wont-throw-traditional-farewell-ceremony-trump/171408/

[ChouDoufu]

7 hours ago, simple1 said:

Military have declined trump's request for 21 gun salute and military band when he departs Washington by plane on 20th.

 

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2021/01/18/trump-farewell-rejected/

 

cool, so this is a request made by the departing president, an honor bestowed by the military.  i had assumed it was something the boss could order on a whim.  groovy.

 

so he's gonna skulk off while the new regime is inaugurated.  sad.

 

i do hope when joe and kamala are on the steps, they take their oaths on the very same bible trump abused four months ago.

[Salerno]

This bodes well for Trump, not ...

 

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US Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has explicitly blamed Donald Trump for the deadly violence at the Capitol, saying the mob was "fed lies", and the President and others "provoked" those intent on overturning Joe Biden's election.

 

Ahead of Mr Trump's historic second impeachment trial, Senator McConnell's remarks were his most severe and public rebuke of the outgoing President.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/mitch-mcconnell-donald-trump-senate-capitol-siege-provoked/13072392

Edited January 20, 2021 by Salerno

[Salerno]

On 1/18/2021 at 5:38 PM, Salerno said:

That reminded me of a part of his last spiel that I thought would have garnered more attention. Not "our Party" or "the Republican Party" not even "Americans" but:

 

 

What exactly did he mean by "our movement"?

 

Again with language that could be interpreted in a certain way "I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning."" (amongst other delusional BS).

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/donald-trumps-farewell-speech-ahead-of-joe-biden-inauguration/13072068

 

 

[Berkshire]

On 1/18/2021 at 2:33 PM, simple1 said:

Military have declined trump's request for 21 gun salute and military band when he departs Washington by plane on 20th.

 

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2021/01/18/trump-farewell-rejected/

Now it's being reported that VP Pence will not be attending Trump's farewell, but will be attending President Biden's inauguration.  Ditto a number of senior Republican leaders.  When you're toxic, nobody wants to come near you. 

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Now it's being reported that VP Pence will not be attending Trump's farewell, but will be attending President Biden's inauguration.  Ditto a number of senior Republican leaders.  When you're toxic, nobody wants to come near you. 

Rats and sinking ship spring to mind.

The hypocracy of the GOP is truly something to behold. Syophantic enablers for 4 years and it only took an almost coup to get them to finally denounce Trump.

They are not fit to hold office.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Now it's being reported that VP Pence will not be attending Trump's farewell, but will be attending President Biden's inauguration.  Ditto a number of senior Republican leaders.  When you're toxic, nobody wants to come near you. 

I will accept that Trump made a serious error by attacking Pence. Pence didn't deserve that.

 

Everyone makes mistakes. I've made more than a few myself, but most affected only myself, like marrying the wrong woman.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Rats and sinking ship spring to mind.

The hypocracy of the GOP is truly something to behold. Syophantic enablers for 4 years and it only took an almost coup to get them to finally denounce Trump.

They are not fit to hold office.

Not all denounced Trump. Try to get the facts right.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I will accept that Trump made a serious error by attacking Pence. Pence didn't deserve that.

 

Everyone makes mistakes. I've made more than a few myself, but most affected only myself, like marrying the wrong woman.

In four years of incompetence, you find "Trump made a serious error by attacking Pence."  This suggests that his only serious error was attacking Pence.

 

Don't you think his love affair with Kim Jong Un, his trusting Putin over his own intelligence services, his ignoring science and deriding those who wore masks (contributing significantly to the 400,000 dead), etc. might also qualify as errors? 

[Phoenix Rising]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not all denounced Trump. Try to get the facts right.

Correct. Not even when he incites violence , treason and insurrection. HRC was right all along.

[Jeffr2]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not all denounced Trump. Try to get the facts right.

But I dare say his most ardent supporters are conspiracy theorists, racists and religious people. At least the vocal minority. We saw them invade the capitol.

[johnnybangkok]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not all denounced Trump. Try to get the facts right.

After 4 years of your sycophantic nonsense, deflections and downright lies you are going to try and lecture me on facts! Priceless.

Oh and congratulations on finally coming out as a true Trump devotee. It took you a while but we all knew you had it in you. 

[shdmn]

6 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

After 4 years of your sycophantic nonsense, deflections and downright lies you are going to try and lecture me on facts! Priceless.

Oh and congratulations on finally coming out as a true Trump devotee. It took you a while but we all knew you had it in you. 

That person would be a good use of the ignore feature imo.  

Edited January 20, 2021 by shdmn

[Susco]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I will accept that Trump made a serious error by attacking Pence. Pence didn't deserve that.

 

Everyone makes mistakes. I've made more than a few myself, but most affected only myself, like marrying the wrong woman.

 

The major mistake Trump made, was running for president, because it has put him in the public spotlight.

 

Before he could cheat his way out of business deals, without too much trouble.

 

Now he is toxic, and nobody wants to do business with him, or people who support him, any more.

 

Read the news, how many big companies have announced publicly that they will not do business with him any more, and the list is still growing, for not to speak of those who quietly turn their back on him.

 

I personally think that before the end of the year, he will either flee the US, or be in an orange jump suit.

[ExpatOK]

The Dems talk about how they're uniting the country. ????

 

70++ Million people voted for Trump. Convicting him in a kangaroo court after he's left office isn't going to unite the country.

[Jeffr2]

21 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

The Dems talk about how they're uniting the country. ????

 

70++ Million people voted for Trump. Convicting him in a kangaroo court after he's left office isn't going to unite the country.

Stop posting misinformation.  Or, provide a link showing he'll be tried by a kangaroo court.

 

P.S. Mitch is behind this if it happens.  For good reasons.  So if it does happen, it will be with full support of the GOP members in the Senate.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Susco said:

 

The major mistake Trump made, was running for president, because it has put him in the public spotlight.

 

Before he could cheat his way out of business deals, without too much trouble.

 

Now he is toxic, and nobody wants to do business with him, or people who support him, any more.

 

Read the news, how many big companies have announced publicly that they will not do business with him any more, and the list is still growing, for not to speak of those who quietly turn their back on him.

 

I personally think that before the end of the year, he will either flee the US, or be in an orange jump suit.

Hopefully future Trumps will get the message:  If you want to keep your finances private, don't go into public office.

[Phulublub]

51 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Stop posting misinformation.  Or, provide a link showing he'll be tried by a kangaroo court.

 

P.S. Mitch is behind this if it happens.  For good reasons.  So if it does happen, it will be with full support of the GOP members in the Senate.

So try him in the House...or is that now a Kangaroo Court just because the GOP no longer have a majority?

 

PH