Pattaya: All change! High Speed Train station likely to move OUT OF PATTAYA!

 

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The much vaunted high speed train from Bangkok to U-Tapao via Pattaya is set for major changes. 

 

Manager reported that there is a likelihood that the Pattaya station will move out of the city hall jurisdiction area altogether.

 

The new location could be Ban Huay Kwang in the Huay Yai/ Na Jomtien area.

 

There are suggestions this will ease traffic and environmental problems.

 

Picture: Manager

 

This now means a change in the plans for the monorail that will meet the train and transport passengers to downtown Pattaya. It will have to be longer and more expensive.

 

Mayor Sontaya Khunpluem said there were always contingencies in the plans should the station be moved but this would mean further studies and plans and more budget being used. 

 

In addition the monorail will have to be longer than before requiring more investment though he didn't forsee this as a problem.

 

Investment is PPP- public-private partnership. 

 

Picture: Manager

 

The HSR has been planned to link three airports - Don Muang, where it originates, Suvarnabhumi and U-Tapao in Rayong. 

 

It will have several stops in Bangkok before going via Si Racha and the Pattaya area - wherever that is. 

 

Previous reports have suggested that the train might reach speeds well in excess of 200 kmph. 

 

The train plans are a major part of the government's EEC- Eastern Economic Corridor initiative for expanding the eastern seaboard. 

 

Mayor Sontaya played down any potential difficulties saying that all contractual agreements will be followed between Pattaya and the state. 

 

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6 minutes ago, webfact said:

further studies and plans and more budget being used. 

The cash cow that keeps on giving!!

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

Previous reports have suggested that the train might reach speeds well in excess of 200 kmph. 

What's the point if it has to keep stopping .

the interconnection should be close to pattaya city and along

the most populated area on the dark side for more passengers that can find monorail useful, like opposite pattaya klang.

 

it should hopefully also have in mind

potential extension of monorail running a ring between beach rd 3rd rd pattaya nua and perhaps even include jomtien

The running gag has a new chapter.... and many more to come! It's like watching Netflix with a new episode every week. 

"In addition the monorail will have to be longer than before requiring more investment though he didn't forsee this as a problem."

 

It might change from monorail to norail. 

Much talk and very little action. Regardless of where it goes, I doubt many of us will still be around when it is finally complete.

This is not the type of place/city that needs any of this.

A big waste..

35 minutes ago, webfact said:

There are suggestions this will ease traffic and environmental problems.

So moving it out of the city to somewhere where people will then have to travel back into the city will ease traffic......am I missing something?

20 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

am I missing something?

It's not you who is missing something, it's the planners/committees/architects/builders/town hall vips: all missing a brain!

3 minutes ago, mikebell said:

It's not you who is missing something, it's the planners/committees/architects/builders/town hall vips: all missing a brain!

But they are not missing the opportunity to cash in on the uncertainty!!

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Ban Huay Kwang in the Huay Yai/ Na Jomtien area.

This area does not surprise me, it is where the motorway 7 spur from Sukhumvit Ban Amphur to the Motorway is, lots of development happening in that area now and plenty of still empty land available, Sukhumvit is being widened from there to Pattaya as well.

high speed train 100baht

 

taxi to the beach 1000baht

 

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

further studies and plans and more budget being used. 

 

The new mall and retail area/condos etc near the station have already been planned by the people who influence the HST budget.

Just now, VocalNeal said:

who control the federal budget.

...which reads....."who control the brown envelopes......."

54 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

1 hour ago, webfact said:

There are suggestions this will ease traffic and environmental problems.

 

55 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

So moving it out of the city to somewhere where people will then have to travel back into the city will ease traffic......am I missing something?

Yes it would appear you are missing something. Like the bit about linking the monorail to the station.

12 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

The new mall and retail area/condos etc near the station have already been planned by the people who influence the HST budget.

I think Icon Siam who are already developing a supermall at the potential new location Ban Huay Kwang in the Huay Yai/ Na Jomtien area, may also have a considerable influence to swing it their way!

2 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Yes it would appear you are missing something. Like the bit about linking the monorail to the station.

Taxi......

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Previous reports have suggested that the train might reach speeds well in excess of 200 kmph. 

 

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

What's the point if it has to keep stopping .

You don't have to be a mathematical genius to work out that the faster a train travels, the shorter its end-to-end journey time is. Which means they can get more trips per day out of each train. There are clearly a number of potential advantages to that.

 

I've travelled on the Zhuhai-Guangzhou high speed commuter line a few times which is very similar to this proposed line and it's an amazing service.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Previous reports have suggested that the train might reach speeds well in excess of 200 kmph. 

...and stay on the rails?

10 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

13 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Yes it would appear you are missing something. Like the bit about linking the monorail to the station.

 

10 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Taxi......

How do taxis ease traffic and environmental problems?

16 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

How do taxis ease traffic and environmental problems?

They don't, but that is what a lot of people will do......have you ever travelled with four kids, a nagging wife and enough luggage to cover a 6 month holiday?

 

The last thing you want to do is lump all that lot onto a monorail and then still have to catch a taxi at the other end .....people want to go straight to their hotel....taxi......

 

 

4 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

They don't, but that is what a lot of people will do......have you ever travelled with four kids, a nagging wife and enough luggage to cover a 6 month holiday?

 

The last thing you want to do is lump all that lot onto a monorail and then still have to catch a taxi at the other end catch a monorail.....people want to go straight to their hotel....taxi......

 

 

I'm pretty sure that ''four kids, a nagging wife and enough luggage to cover a 6 month holiday'' will be the exception rather than the rule.

 

From what I read, this proposed line is as much about business along the EEC as it is about holiday travelers.

There is no concept of planning or common sense is there?

How is it so many other airports are able to arrange a proper train link? Other cities  have it right- Heathrow, Shanghai, Chicago, Toronto, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, and Haneda have easy public transit links right in the airport terminal that take one quickly into the city. I marvel at the ease and affordability of the Chicago O'Hare public transit link and have been into the city within 30 minutes during rush hour. Haneda is a joy.  And then there is Thailand. What a disappointment if the intent is to offer efficient and fast connection from the airport.

I do not want to be dumped  on the fringe of the city where I will be ripped off by the usual taxi mobsters. They made a mess of the BKK airport link and one would have hoped that they could get it right 10 years later for this  project.

32 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

I'm pretty sure that ''four kids, a nagging wife and enough luggage to cover a 6 month holiday'' will be the exception rather than the rule.

 

From what I read, this proposed line is as much about business along the EEC as it is about holiday travelers.

Okay....... two kids and a nagging wife.....Pattaya, don't forget is going to become the Miami of SE Asia and the holiday hot spot for high end tourists......high end tourists don't decamp to monorails.

15 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Pattaya, don't forget is the going to become the Miami of SE Asia and the holiday hot spot for high end tourists.

Ah yes. Now that's the bit I laugh at. ????

 

Have a good day.

29 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

high end tourists don't decamp to monorails.

 

Nor do they forego their limo from aiport to hotel door for farting about with luggage on a train.

 

2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

This is not the type of place/city that needs any of this.

A big waste..

i completely disagree, even with no tourism at all

and half of thais left, its still crowded roads

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The new location could be Ban Huay Kwang in the Huay Yai/ Na Jomtien area

This will go nicely along with the newly announced Chinese investment in the Jomtien area, I wonder if there is a link?

the fast train always stops at the money block