Speculation rife that top cop "Big Joke" is set for RTP comeback

[webfact]

Speculation rife that top cop "Big Joke" is set for RTP comeback

Picture: Daily News

Thai media is falling over themselves speculation amid rumors that one of the poster boys of the Royal Thai Police who fell from grace is set for a return to prominence.

Lt-Gen Surachet Hakpan was sacked from his position as commissioner of the Immigration Bureau in 2019 and moved to a paper shuffling position in the PM's office effectively ending his stellar police career.

Surachate - well known by his familiar nickname of Big Joke - had also been the assistant commissioner of the tourist police where he acted as though he was the leader.

He was constantly seen jetting off around Thailand and the world on high profile, well publicised busts. 

But he clearly either upset someone or was allegedly involved in something himself.

He was critical of the IB's procurement of a 2 billion baht biometrics system, money that his successor at the IB, the more dour  Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang, has been keen to promote as money well spent.

Picture: Daily News

But no reason was ever given for Surachate's fall from grace though an inquiry is ongoing.

He has sued the PM Prauth Chan-ocha for wrongful transfer and has been a thorn in the side of the PM who responded to reporters' pressing regarding the case yesterday with irritability.

He denied that Surachate was returning to the force in an active role but seemed to indicate that he was moving back while the investigation continues. 

Print media has speculated that this means an inactive post.

There appears to be two months for the investigation to continue. Prayut denied that Surachate's return has anything to do with the lawsuit. 

Daily News led the speculation with their reporter also pressing DPM Wissanu Krea-ngam who barked back: "Can't say - ask the PM" when questioned about a return for Surachate.

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[Justgrazing]

23 minutes ago, webfact said:

Daily News led the speculation with their reporter also pressing DPM Wissanu Krea-ngam who barked back: "Can't say - ask the PM" when questioned about a return for Surachate

Woof woof went Wiss'

Barked .! What is he the P M's poodle or something .. 

 

[YetAnother]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

though an inquiry is ongoing

a piece of paper buried in a drawer somewhere

[miamiman123]

TC

[WineOh]

He seems alright Big Joke.

Obviously not afraid of going up against the top brass if he is suing Prayut!

I too am skeptical about this biometric system and all these daft smart cars.

What a waste of taxpayer money since there are no tourists coming in and/or walking the streets...

Sort em out, BJ!.

 

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Woof woof went Wiss'

Barked .! What is he the P M's poodle or something .. 

 

A poodle who imagines he is s German Shepherd perhaps?

[ThailandRyan]

Didn't Yingluck and her government basically get removed based upon removing someone from a position without it being done properly or without cause.  Maybe this government will fall as well, but then this is the Teflon Government where nothing sticks or tarnishes it's stellar reputation as the center of the Hub Universe.

[scorecard]

14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Didn't Yingluck and her government basically get removed based upon removing someone from a position without it being done properly or without cause.  Maybe this government will fall as well, but then this is the Teflon Government where nothing sticks or tarnishes it's stellar reputation as the center of the Hub Universe.

Not really the point in regard to yingluck, she and her gang of thieves got removed because they where so corrupt. Quick example her trade minister and his deputy both got jail for several decades for their fake international rice sales scams. 

[donnacha]

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Not really the point in regard to yingluck, she and her gang of thieves got removed because they where so corrupt. Quick example her trade minister and his deputy both got jail for several decades for their fake international rice sales scams. 

They got removed in a coup. Thai soldiers used guns, paid for by the Thai people, to remove a government against the overwhelming wishes of the Thai people.

Whatever the faults of Yingluck's cabinet, they were amateurs compared to the current mafia. Thailand would be in a far better place today if the will of the people had been respected.
 

Quote

Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those others - Winston Churchill

 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Not really the point in regard to yingluck, she and her gang of thieves got removed because they where so corrupt. Quick example her trade minister and his deputy both got jail for several decades for their fake international rice sales scams. 

Yes, I know all that, but wasn't the primary reason she was sacked and convicted was not because of Malfeasance but because of the removal from a position of power.

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra removed from office over abuse of power charges | Daily Mail Online

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, 46, was charged with abusing her authority by transferring a senior civil servant to another position in 2011.

Tell me how that is different than what has occurred with "Big Joke" 

[mtls2005]

Weird, given the Elephant Ticket kerfuffle.

 

But if he did pay 10m+ for his "promotion" then the people who loaned him the money (very powerful) need him "earning".

 

And why he doesn't just wait patiently I cannot figure out?

 

Seems like a split between two factions, and maybe the weakest one is waiting for the stonger one to cool down?

 

Immigration seems to be running fine without him. Might be a plus if he could get the IT stuff running though.

 

 

 

 

[Litlos]

1 hour ago, WineOh said:

He seems alright Big Joke.

Obviously not afraid of going up against the top brass if he is suing Prayut!

I too am skeptical about this biometric system and all these daft smart cars.

What a waste of taxpayer money since there are no tourists coming in and/or walking the streets...

Sort em out, BJ!.

 

Absolute numpty only interested in a photo op. Remember who resurrected the TM30 and all the have to resubmit if out of province for 24 hours racism, BJ. Who decided 4 weeks before for renewal of retirement visa is to much, lets make it a week or something equally stupid, BJ. Who said they were going to remove the need for agents for visas etc at the same time making the processes more convoluted so more people had to use agents, you guessed it BJ. Luckily most of this stupidity has quietly been rolled back. So lets keep BJ well out of it, lower palace gardener security should do fine.

Cheers

 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Woof woof went Wiss'

Barked .! What is he the P M's poodle or something .. 

 

They're all lap dogs of some kind.

[scorecard]

31 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yes, I know all that, but wasn't the primary reason she was sacked and convicted was not because of Malfeasance but because of the removal from a position of power.

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra removed from office over abuse of power charges | Daily Mail Online

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, 46, was charged with abusing her authority by transferring a senior civil servant to another position in 2011.

Tell me how that is different than what has occurred with "Big Joke" 

I agree re Yingluck; IMHO both abuse of authority re transfer of a civil servant and the massive corruption both key points.

Not sure what your point is re Big Joke.

 

[brianthainess]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Prayut denied that Surachate's return has anything to do with the lawsuit. 

And we all know what a truthful person our esteemed leader is. 

[ThailandRyan]

19 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I agree re Yingluck; IMHO both abuse of authority re transfer of a civil servant and the massive corruption both key points.

Not sure what your point is re Big Joke.

 

He was a Senior Civil servant was my point just like the one that took down Yingluck. The PM is trying to tap dance around the issue.  I wish him luck in keeping himself from being taken down by the slick movement he made to hide the corruption he was probably involved with, or was it done to protect Big Joke....

[mtls2005]

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

just like the one that took down Yingluck.

 

Amusing take.

 

That charge was "handy". Had it not been available she would have been charged with illegally imported walkie-talkies, or using playing cards without paying the tax.

 

Prayuth would not be taken down for this, nor would he lose a court case if it got to the point of being adjudicated.

 

Hapkarn's meteoric rise up the ranks is the issue. Even though the "government" survived the Elephant Ticket scandal, it's probably too soon to bring him back.

 

 

 

[AlQaholic]

48 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, 46, was charged with abusing her authority by transferring a senior civil servant to another position in 2011.

In other recent news; Aung San Suu Kyi, the state counsellor of Myanmar, was charged with the horrifical crime of illegally importing communication devices into the country. Other charges may be levelled as well.

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, AlQaholic said:

In other recent news; Aung San Suu Kyi, the state counsellor of Myanmar, was charged with the horrifical crime of illegally importing communication devices into the country. Other charges may be levelled as well.

Military does what it wants I guess, same as our illustrious PM.

[SupermarineS6B]

Anyway back to business........ "Big Joke"... ?   Surely Thailand's up to the gills with jokes at the moment ?  and like "Big Joke" himself they're not particularly funny.....

I've just flown into Jakarta from Istanbul, and i must say it was a pleasant experience at both ends, unlike anything i've experienced in the last three years that i've traveled in and out of Thailand.

Firstly the C19 test was done in my hotel in Istanbul, six hours return for the result and 40$. Turkish airlines, (Boeing 787 ) to Jakarta, which i might say is one of the best Airlines i've flown for a long time, including Thai.

Went through immigration without a question in Istanbul, landed in Jakarta, went through the immigration without any problems whatsoever and exited the airport faster than anytime that i've traveled through Suvarnabhumi or Don Muang , pretty good considering were in the "Worst Pandemic" in living history..... 

Car from the airport to the hotel, one C19 test in the hotel on the 10th, one on the 14th, then after five days quarantine i'm free.....   300$,  Substantially cheaper and smarter than what the present "Scheme" is in Thailand.  

My point is, i don't think Thailand needs anymore spanners chucking in the machinery, and the mere thought of re-instating Mr " Big Joke " in my eyes is tantamount to digging up Pol Pot and putting him back in power........     

Seriously, if Thailand doesn't shape up shortly it's going to be left in the dust.......   

  

[DUNROAMIN]

Wont be long before Thailand ends up like Myanmar, especially after Prayut's dummy spit at yesterdays press conference.

[Nanaplaza666]

He's return might have something to do with him willing to drop the case against P.M or not . My geuss is , when he drops his case against P.M he will return . I think it's getting abit hot under the P.M's feet , and it's not because the weather is changing . 

[DirtyFarang]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Didn't Yingluck and her government basically get removed based upon removing someone from a position without it being done properly or without cause.  Maybe this government will fall as well, but then this is the Teflon Government where nothing sticks or tarnishes it's stellar reputation as the center of the Hub Universe.

It's not teflon; it's bullets.  This government has the bullets.

[ThailandRyan]

9 minutes ago, DirtyFarang said:

It's not teflon; it's bullets.  This government has the bullets.

Wait, I thought that was the men in black, and they used ping pong grenades?  I know that Myanmar's Military is using life ammo and reducing the protestors that way.  Hey they are even banning Facebook postings and arresting those that do....Hmmm maybe taking a play from or good PM and his governments playbook.

It will get darker in the days ahead as things start to get rocky for this government and the PM as they bounce along the seashore while trying to stay ahead of the Big Joke scandal and what else rolls out of the dark shadows.

[JanPeder]

Big Joke is my hero, here in Chiangmai. He changed the whole bad organisation for immigration here in Chiangmai. 3 big (not interested doing good service for people) officiers he took away and send them to work in BKK. He told that no more queues in the morning 3.00 a clocḱ. Before i had to sit on a chair outside IO 4.00 - and that was terrible. He told the stab: If you dont fix this you have to work faster, open for lunch and even open in the evening to 20.00 pm. Wow. And so it was.  Everything changed - it was like a miracle. And still we have good service. But of course i feel more safty with him as a leader of immigration. BJ. He is my hero.

[The Deerhunter]

1 hour ago, AlQaholic said:

In other recent news; Aung San Suu Kyi, the state counsellor of Myanmar, was charged with the horrifical crime of illegally importing communication devices into the country. Other charges may be levelled as well.

See mtis2005 just above.  

[SupermarineS6B]

51 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Wont be long before Thailand ends up like Myanmar, especially after Prayut's dummy spit at yesterdays press conference.

They're all getting a bit jumpy now, April's on it's way and That's Thai fighting season. They closed the country down last year as they all knew what was on the way, and now looking at the reaction of the people in Burma against the military they're scared that it's contagious....... It is...... worse than C19......   I reckon this year's going to be curtains for a few military governments around the world...... They're outdated and the people are sick of them........ 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Wont be long before Thailand ends up like Myanmar, especially after Prayut's dummy spit at yesterdays press conference.

Sounds like your saying they are actually different or have been different,I did enjoy watching his dummy spit and spraying alcohol hand sanitiser into the eyes of people asking questions which could be interpreted as assault in some countries. 

[Thaiophil]

As per Bangkok Post today, BJ has definitely bern reappointed by the RTP, though not entirely clear to what post

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

He was a Senior Civil servant was my point just like the one that took down Yingluck. The PM is trying to tap dance around the issue.  I wish him luck in keeping himself from being taken down by the slick movement he made to hide the corruption he was probably involved with, or was it done to protect Big Joke....

Or was it because Big Joke became too popular?

Or was it because Big Joke was quite active in many areas and was getting results to catch criminals etc? Or was he, at the same time, treading on someone's toes?