London murder case triggers wave of grief, rage over threats to women

[webfact]

London murder case triggers wave of grief, rage over threats to women
By Kate Holton and Ben Makori

Police officers stand outside the Great Chart Golf & Leisure Country Club, as the investigation into the disappearance of Sarah Everard continues, in Ashford, Britain, March 11, 2021. REUTERS/Paul Childs

LONDON (Reuters) - Women in Britain poured out their fears and anger over how unsafe they feel walking the streets after the disappearance of a woman in London and the arrest of a police officer on suspicion of her kidnap and murder.

Sarah Everard, 33, was last seen at 9:30 p.m. on March 3 as she walked home from a friend's house in south London. Her image, smiling at the camera or caught on CCTV that evening, has been splashed across British newspapers all week.

Anxiety turned to grief after news late on Wednesday that police investigating Everard's disappearance had found remains in a wood outside London, resulting in an outpouring of personal accounts by women of their own experiences and fears.

"The disappearance of Sarah and the absolute tragedy around that has really touched a nerve with a lot of women," said Anna Birley, 31, one of the organisers of a planned "Reclaim These Streets" vigil to honour Everard and demand change.

"We feel really angry that it's an expectation put on women that we need to change our behaviour to stay safe. The problem isn't women, the problem is that women aren't safe on our streets," said Birley.

Women flooded social media with posts about the steps they take when out alone at night to keep safe, including clutching keys to use as a weapon and wearing trainers to help them run. Many raged at the violence against women that made them feel they had to take such measures.

Others detailed a catalogue of incidents of harassment by men in public over the decades since they were schoolgirls.

"These are so powerful because each and every woman can relate," Home Secretary (interior minister) Priti Patel said. "Every woman should feel safe to walk on our streets without fear of harassment or violence."

118 MURDERS

Legislator Jess Phillips, the opposition Labour Party's policy chief on domestic violence, read out in the chamber of the House of Commons the names of all 118 women murdered by men in the United Kingdom last year.

"The message that needs to be sent is that male violence is something that has to be tackled and challenged and the justice system and society has to wake up to that," said Phillips.

The head of London's police force, Cressida Dick, said she and her colleagues were "utterly appalled" at news that a police officer had been arrested in connection with Everard's abduction, sparking a wave of shock and anger.

Police on Thursday were given extra time to question the officer, whose job is to guard diplomatic buildings, on suspicion of kidnap, murder and indecent exposure.

A woman in her 30s, who media said was his wife, was also detained on suspicion of assisting an offender, but has since been released on police bail.

England's police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct, said it had launched an investigation into the London police force's handling of the case.

The arrested officer was reported to police on Feb. 28 over allegations of indecent exposure in a south London fast food restaurant, several days before Everard disappeared.

The watchdog also said it would look closer at how the suspect sustained head injuries that required hospital treatment, which police said occurred while he was alone in his cell.

Dick sought to reassure women, saying it was "incredibly rare" for a woman to be abducted from the streets.

"But I completely understand that despite this, women in London and the wider public, particularly those in the area where Sarah went missing, will be worried and may well be feeling scared," she said.

Although the remains have not yet been formally identified, Everard's family paid tribute, saying their "beautiful daughter Sarah was taken from us and we are appealing for any information that will help to solve this terrible crime".

"Sarah was bright and beautiful - a wonderful daughter and sister. She was kind and thoughtful, caring and dependable," the family said in a statement.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he was shocked and deeply saddened by developments in the case.

The "Reclaim These Streets" vigil will take place on Saturday in Clapham Common in southwest London, near where Everard was last seen.

(Additional reporting by Michael Holden and David Milliken; Editing by Estelle Shirbon, Mark Heinrich, Bernadette Baum and Daniel Wallis)

-- © Copyright Reuters 2021-03-12

 

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[RichardColeman]

 

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

The watchdog also said it would look closer at how the suspect sustained head injuries that required hospital treatment, which police said occurred while he was alone in his cell.

Wouldn't look too hard on that one

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

"We feel really angry that it's an expectation put on women that we need to change our behaviour to stay safe. The problem isn't women, the problem is that women aren't safe on our streets," said Birley.

Luckily a sensible solution from the Green party was forthcoming. During a House of Lords parliamentary debate Baroness Jones delivered this little gem

"I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/peer-suggests-6pm-curfew-for-men-after-sarah-everard-case/ar-BB1euHHJ

 

Looks good on paper, can't see any potential issues.

[JonnyF]

41 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Luckily a sensible solution from the Green party was forthcoming. During a House of Lords parliamentary debate Baroness Jones delivered this little gem

"I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/peer-suggests-6pm-curfew-for-men-after-sarah-everard-case/ar-BB1euHHJ

 

Looks good on paper, can't see any potential issues.

Yes I saw that. She wants a curfew on men from 6pm.

However, she also supports gender self identification so I think I see a way around this for any women with a penis who fancy a quick pint in the evening ????.

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Legislator Jess Phillips, the opposition Labour Party's policy chief on domestic violence, read out in the chamber of the House of Commons the names of all 118 women murdered by men in the United Kingdom last year.

"The message that needs to be sent is that male violence is something that has to be tackled and challenged and the justice system and society has to wake up to that," said Phillips.

Well said.  

[Pilotman]

The level of reporting could easily result in a subsequent  mistrial, the press are being irresponsible, as usual.  This low life, if indeed it was him, already has grounds for appeal, if he is subsequently found guilty.  

[Pilotman]

51 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Luckily a sensible solution from the Green party was forthcoming. During a House of Lords parliamentary debate Baroness Jones delivered this little gem

"I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/peer-suggests-6pm-curfew-for-men-after-sarah-everard-case/ar-BB1euHHJ

 

Looks good on paper, can't see any potential issues.

As you are  obviously saying, it looks ridiculous on paper.  The Greens are just a set of out of orbit lunatics. My eldest voted Green Party at one election, ( she lived in Brighton at the time, so was tainted by that weird City and its legion of wokes) I didn't speak to the stupid child for weeks.  She has since recovered from that short period of madness. 

[phetphet]

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes I saw that. She wants a curfew on men from 6pm.

However, she also supports gender self identification so I think I see a way around this for any women with a penis who fancy a quick pint in the evening ????.

Only served by women as all the barmen will be stuck at home from 6pm. along with all other male workers.

[JonnyF]

13 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Only served by women as all the barmen will be stuck at home from 6pm. along with all other male workers.

Yeah they better have a lot of female bus drivers, taxi drivers, doorpeople, barwomen etc. In fact, why 6pm? Just lock up all men forever.

The whole idea is ludicrous. Typical of the Green Party. No thought given regarding the reality of their proposals. Just fluffy, idiotic virtue signaling.

[Surelynot]

This is so biased towards women......man get attacked as well.

[Salerno]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Legislator Jess Phillips, the opposition Labour Party's policy chief on domestic violence, read out in the chamber of the House of Commons the names of all 118 women murdered by men in the United Kingdom last year.

Ran out of time to read out the names of the other 5, 6, 700 murder victims (whatever the figure is, stats not updated yet)? 

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Ran out of time to read out the names of the other 5, 6, 700 murder victims (whatever the figure is, stats not updated yet)? 

Did you get Priti Patel to count those figures?

Approximately 700 murders each year in the UK nearly all men killing men or men killing women....see a pattern?

[Salerno]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Approximately 700 murders each year in the UK nearly all men killing men or men killing women....see a pattern?

Yes, I agree, there's a pattern of male victims not getting the same attention.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Salerno said:

Yes, I agree, there's a pattern of male victims not getting the same attention.

Oh dear.

[Salerno]

Just now, Surelynot said:

Oh dear.

Indeed.

[JackGats]

Maybe 10 men got murdered over the same period, but who cares? As long as it doesn't happen to a woman it hardly makes the news.

[Surelynot]

Organisers of a vigil to Sarah Everard due to take place in central London have been told that the gathering would be illegal by the Metropolitan Police.

 

.........and yet 25% capacity to be allowed at stadiums around the country for Matt Hancock's Cheltenham Gold Cup?

[Surelynot]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

As you are  obviously saying, it looks ridiculous on paper.  The Greens are just a set of out of orbit lunatics. My eldest voted Green Party at one election, ( she lived in Brighton at the time, so was tainted by that weird City and its legion of wokes) I didn't speak to the stupid child for weeks.  She has since recovered from that short period of madness. 

She must be so proud of you.

[realfunster]

18 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Did you get Priti Patel to count those figures?

Approximately 700 murders each year in the UK nearly all men killing men or men killing women....see a pattern?

Well yes, following your numbers, given 118 cases of men murdering women and therefore around 582 cases of men being killed by men, I feel more urgent action should be taken to protect and understand the challenges faced by men, who are 493% more likely to be murdered than women.

 

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, car720 said:

Why is it always men attacking women but we never hear of the opposite.

I guess you know the answer.......there is something significantly wrong with men......still dominated by the ancient brain.......never grow up......still children at heart........

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, realfunster said:

Well yes, following your numbers, given 118 cases of men murdering women and therefore around 582 cases of men being killed by men, I feel more urgent action should be taken to protect and understand the challenges faced by men, who are 493% more likely to be murdered than women.

 

Clueless.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Maybe 10 men got murdered over the same period, but who cares? As long as it doesn't happen to a woman it hardly makes the news.

How many were murdered by men?

How many were targeted by their killer because they were men?

 

[Surelynot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Yeah they better have a lot of female bus drivers, taxi drivers, doorpeople, barwomen etc. In fact, why 6pm? Just lock up all men forever.

The whole idea is ludicrous. Typical of the Green Party. No thought given regarding the reality of their proposals. Just fluffy, idiotic virtue signaling.

Not related to this post....but thought you might be interested to read this.....

https://www.shortform.com/blog/ancient-brain/

[Pilotman]

32 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

She must be so proud of you.

humour eh,  you are obviously not a big fan?

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Not related to this post....but thought you might be interested to read this.....

https://www.shortform.com/blog/ancient-brain/

Absolute nonsense. I spent quite some time studying behavioral neuroscience as part of my Psychology degree and this ancient brain theory was pretty much universally discredited.

That article is one of the worst I've read in a long time. It reads like it was written by some A level student on LSD.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Absolute nonsense. I spent quite some time studying behavioral neuroscience as part of my Psychology degree and this ancient brain theory was pretty much universally discredited.

That article is one of the worst I've read in a long time. It reads like it was written by some A level student on LSD.

The written piece is just a quick precise....hopefully the actual book is more 'academic'......but of it is all rubbish I won't bother reading it.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Absolute nonsense. I spent quite some time studying behavioral neuroscience as part of my Psychology degree and this ancient brain theory was pretty much universally discredited.

That article is one of the worst I've read in a long time. It reads like it was written by some A level student on LSD.

So Jonny, you have a degree in Psychology.

That’s a very interesting piece of background information you chose to share with us.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So Jonny, you have a degree in Psychology.

That’s a very interesting piece of background information you chose to share with us.

Don't forget to file it in your little black book under JonnyF ????.

But actually I've shared before on TV, so No it's not particularly interesting.

In fact I recall you enquiring which University I studied at, but as I have had problems with some fairly creepy internet stalkers on TV in the past (not naming any names of course ????) I declined to divulge????.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Don't forget to file it in your little black book under JonnyF ????.

But actually I've shared before on TV, so No it's not particularly interesting.

In fact I recall you enquiring which University I studied at, but as I have had problems with some fairly creepy internet stalkers on TV in the past (not naming any names of course ????) I declined to divulge????.

It’s not so much about filing anything, rather now we know you have a degree in psychology and are keen to refer to it as authority to declare an idea from psychology as ‘debunked’ it makes reference to other psychological explanations of online behavior fair game.

I have in mind ‘projection’ but also ‘male fragility’, and too, many other explanations of why a particular group within TVF respond so predictably to a range of issues, in this case male violence against women, by immediately becoming defensive, throwing in distractions and of course preening their own sense of victimhood.

We have many interesting discussions ahead of us.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Chomper Higgot

[JonnyF]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not so much about filing anything, rather now we know you have a degree in psychology and are keen to refer to it as authority to declare an idea from psychology as ‘debunked’ it makes reference to other psychological explanations of online behavior fair game.

I have in mind ‘projection’ but also ‘male fragility’, and too, many other explanations of why a particular group within TVF respond so predictably to a range of issues, in this case male violence against women, by immediately becoming defensive, throwing in distractions and of course preening their own sense of victimhood.

We have many interesting discussions ahead of us.

 

 

Funny you mention Projection. I referred to this myself recently when Prince Harry started lecturing us on racism, privilege and the environment after dressing like a Nazi, calling his military colleague a racial slur and buying a 14 million dollar mansion with 16 bathrooms.

Of course you defended him. I guess we can add virtue signaling, hypocrisy and the strange phenomenon of leftist woke feminist socialists pandering to Aristocratic Millionaires to the list of topics? Should be fun.