11 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I would say Thailand’s problems are all self inflicted.  I know it’s the Thai way to blame others or circumstances beyond their control ... but not this time.  

Several countries are in the similar situation.  Did great initially with regards to controlling the virus, but way behind on vaccinations.  Like Australia and New Zealand.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

So no price and no delivery discussed or agreed.  So in fact there is no news at all. just hot air.

 

Why is it even worth a photograph at all? J  ust to prove that nothing worthwhile was achieved - and that it took half a dozen HiSo heavily salaried and gold-plate-pensioned Thais to achieve that?

    ""Is likely""  The operative word.

Shut your mouth until ""you know"" for once

What good is whatever agreement if no time-line for delivery has been scheduled?

On 4/23/2021 at 9:27 AM, Flying Saucage said:

 

Also these clowns said that Pfizer was not suitable for Thailand, as it must be kept at -70°C. Quite pathetic for a nation which plans to go to the moon, isn't it?

 

Despite BioNTech and it's partner Pfizer reduced the cooling requirements in the meantime, even -70°C is not overly difficult. I wrote on Thaivisa 6 months ago already that cheap dry ice for food storage has a temperature of -79°C, and liquid Nitrogen, a common cooling medium which is cheaper than beer, has -192°C. 

 

Now as Anutins pants are on fire, cold storage of the Pfizer vaccine suddenly is no issue anymore. ????

 

I believe that the sub zero temperature is for long term storage and transport but the Pfizer vaccine can be kept for a week at normal refrigeration temperatures once thawed hence supplies of the vaccine could be transported with Liquid Nitrogen flasks to regional hospitals. It must be Thawed out before use and will be kept in the fridge for a week. An efficient vaccination program getting many people to attend the hospital during the week with minimal admin and paperwork to delay would see those doses used completely. However I am aware of the convoluted administration and reliance on lots of complex paperwork which is typical in Thailand which will cause massive waste

On 4/23/2021 at 3:26 PM, herfiehandbag said:

Look, you can do somethings with bamboo, others are more difficult.

 

Rockets are easy - they do it every year.

 

Constant refrigeration to -70C is another matter. What happens when it rains and the electricity goes off?

I read somewhere it is not -70C anymore? It said normal Freezer temp is sufficient? Wrong?

Pfizer press release:

 

Friday, February 19, 2021 - 07:00am EST

 

Proposed U.S. EUA label update would enable the vaccine to be stored at -25°C to -15°C (-13°F to 5°F) for a total of two weeks

If approved, new storage option could offer pharmacies and vaccination centers greater flexibility in managing and maintaining vaccine distribution and supply

NEW YORK and MAINZ, GERMANY, February 19, 2021 — Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the submission of new data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) demonstrating the stability of their COVID-19 vaccine when stored at -25°C to -15°C (-13°F to 5°F), temperatures more commonly found in pharmaceutical freezers and refrigerators. The data have been submitted to the FDA to support a proposed update to the U.S. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) Prescribing Information, which would allow for vaccine vials to be stored at these temperatures for a total of two weeks as an alternative or complement to storage in an ultra-low temperature freezer.

 

More details:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-submit-covid-19-vaccine-stability-data

11 hours ago, Captor said:

I read somewhere it is not -70C anymore? It said normal Freezer temp is sufficient? Wrong?

I honestly don't know - you may well be right.

 

It was only a joke...

On 4/23/2021 at 1:34 PM, Justgrazing said:

everyday Thailand is lagging further behind in the requirement to vaccinate their population

From people speak to, other countries are behind Thailand, like Japan, Poland, Tanzania.

 

Many countries don't want the vaccine.

 

https://www.devex.com/news/the-countries-that-don-t-want-the-covid-19-vaccine-99243

Last month, Tanzanian Health Minister Dorothy Gwajima held a press conference demonstrating how to make a smoothie with ginger, onions, lemon, and pepper, which she said could help to prevent COVID-19 infections. She did not provide any evidence for her claim but went on to state that the country had no plans to receive vaccines for the pandemic and should instead rely on hygiene measures, herbal steaming, exercise, and “natural remedies.”

Great news, that's the one I want to take.