Expats getting a Covid-19 vaccine in Pattaya for dummies with emphasis on expats outside the Thai system

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Nothing like good and effective public communication by the powers that be to make the wheels turn smoothly. 

 

Too bad that just doesn't exists here in the Magic Kingdom where everything is an illusion and nothing is real! 

 

I think I'm done with all of this foolish nonsense.  Wake me up when sanity returns...if it ever does.

Yep.

A fiction writer couldn't have invented a more messed up situation.

[shortstop2]

Went to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital this afternoon and got put on a waiting list.  Got the impression that had I arrived early in the morning I could have paid my 3400 baht.

 

Then went to Pattaya International and got put on another waiting list.  The guy spoke great English and said they will call me when they have procured any vaccine.

 

Then went to Pattaya Memorial and they were not taking any registrations or putting people on waiting lists. 

 

EDIT:  To clarify, these waiting lists are in pen on a piece of paper.  Not sure if they will be inputed to their computer system or if that really matters.

Edited July 1, 2021 by shortstop2

[WorriedNoodle]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

They broke the news in Thailand in the Thai language first? Here in Thailand?!

 

Tell me it isn't so!

 

Oh, hold on. It was only 'allegedly' the case. Thought so.

 

How are these troll posts of any benefit?

'Here in Thailand?' = somewhat disingenuous when you are not even in Thailand.

[marino28]

18 hours ago, couchpotato said:

Have they approved your payment confirmation yet.  Or wait until business hours tomorrow?

Thanks

 

 

6 hours ago, marino28 said:

 

Not yet 

 

5 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

Please keep us posted on this.  I'm really curious to know if this was actually for real or merely another failed scheme.  I hope for your sake it is for real, but I'm getting pretty jaded but all the past public registration failures for those of us outside of Bangkok, and also by the other private hospital (Pattaya Memorial) that reneged when they offered it also.  So far, ALL registration schemes  to Pattaya expats have amounted to nothing more than disingenuous offers, and a complete waste of our time!

 

Just to follow up, I received  the confirmation of my payment.

 

no complain from me. 

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

 

How are these troll posts of any benefit?

'Here in Thailand?' = somewhat disingenuous when you are not even in Thailand.

They are of no benefit at all. They're intended to be toxic  and destructive and indeed they are. I really wish they would just stop.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Please stop with your personal attacks.  This thread is about helping each other with registration issues, not giving you a forum for your self-righteous, sanctimonious, and bizarre insults. 

He will never stop. His behavior obviously fills a hole. 

Edited July 1, 2021 by Jingthing

[WaveHunter]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

They are of no benefit at all. They're intended to be toxic  and destructive and indeed they are. I really wish they would just stop.

I think we need a moderator to step in to rid us of these pests that buzz about like annoying insects on a hot summer day.

Edited July 1, 2021 by WaveHunter

[Jingthing]

Just in case anyone actually believes the narrative that any expat in Pattaya that wants a vaccine in a timely manner in Pattaya can get a vaccine in Pattaya and if they can't get it, it's their own darned fault rather than the systems in places (such as they are).

 

This article reflects the TRUTH that I know. We are as a class BLOCKED. That's an objective fact. People can theorize about WHY this has happened, the possible motivations behind it or is it just random unplanned chaos, but you can't in good faith deny that it IS happening.  

 

 

Most Pattaya expats expect their Covid-19 jabs sometime next year - Pattaya Mail

 

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The vast majority of Pattaya expats say they are very frustrated by the confusion about enrolment for coronavirus vaccination in the city, with just over half prophesying they won’t have their jabs anytime in 2021. This according to a random survey conducted by Pattaya Mail with 100 expats questioned around the Jomtien immigration bureau area between 28 June and 1 July.

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by Jingthing

[Rimmer]

A couple of troll posts and a reply have been removed

[robblok]

Havent been vaccinated yet but registered a while back for moderna at a THG and yesterday i had the option to pay a deposit. I promptly did so got a confirmation.

 

Now its only waiting until they call me up. I dont expect it to be fast.

 

This is BKK not Pattaya but anyone being serious about vaccination would not mind to travel.

[Surelynot]

13 hours ago, shortstop2 said:

To clarify, these waiting lists are in pen on a piece of paper.  Not sure if they will be inputed to their computer system or if that really matters.

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by Surelynot

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

 

I'm pretty confident the waiting lists are just for the falang to go away and stop pestering the hospitals, i doubt anything will come of it

[Surelynot]

32 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'm pretty confident the waiting lists are just for the falang to go away and stop pestering the hospitals, i doubt anything will come of it

I registered with Thonburi for Moderna.........never heard a thing

[bkk6060]

Top floor of Central giving jabs now.  Many people not a Falang in site.

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Havent been vaccinated yet but registered a while back for moderna at a THG and yesterday i had the option to pay a deposit. I promptly did so got a confirmation.

 

Now its only waiting until they call me up. I dont expect it to be fast.

 

This is BKK not Pattaya but anyone being serious about vaccination would not mind to travel.

THe only problem with your suggestion is that you must be a legal resident of the province that you seek vaccination from, so Bangkok is not an option for anyone resideing in another province, unfortunately.

[robblok]

1 minute ago, WaveHunter said:

THe only problem with your suggestion is that you must be a legal resident of the province that you seek vaccination from, so Bangkok is not an option for anyone resideing in another province, unfortunately.

They never asked me if i was a legal resident. Its a private hospital they really dont care. Did not even have to give in an address or any other proof.

[Surelynot]

Just now, WaveHunter said:

THe only problem with your suggestion is that you must be a legal resident of the province that you seek vaccination from, so Bangkok is not an option for anyone resideing in another province, unfortunately.

How does that work?........My legal residence is near Chaiyaphum, but we travel around Thailand all the time and rarely live at 'home'.

 

I had my first jab yesterday in BKK and the wife has hers next weekin BKK..........I just put the address we happened to be staying at the moment......how does anyone know who lives where?

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

They never asked me if i was a legal resident. Its a private hospital they really dont care. Did not even have to give in an address or any other proof.

Had my jab at Phyathai 2 BKK, no one asked what my legal address was......they did ask do you live in BKK and I said yes.....end of.

[bkk6060]

10 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

THe only problem with your suggestion is that you must be a legal resident of the province that you seek vaccination from, so Bangkok is not an option for anyone resideing in another province, unfortunately.

False.

I live in Pattaya and got jabbed in Bangkok.  When checking in the nurse asked me where I live and I told her Pattaya, no problem.

Sad also seems that people missed out on an opportunity as reported by several on TV they did not proceed when the Bangkok hospitals option came up on the registration.

Edited July 2, 2021 by bkk6060

[WaveHunter]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Just in case anyone actually believes the narrative that any expat in Pattaya that wants a vaccine in a timely manner in Pattaya can get a vaccine in Pattaya and if they can't get it, it's their own darned fault rather than the systems in places (such as they are).

 

This article reflects the TRUTH that I know. We are as a class BLOCKED. That's an objective fact. People can theorize about WHY this has happened, the possible motivations behind it or is it just random unplanned chaos, but you can't in good faith deny that it IS happening.  

 

 

Most Pattaya expats expect their Covid-19 jabs sometime next year - Pattaya Mail

 

 

Off-topic:  I hate this new default GRAY type font being used Grrrr!  I will now type everything in bold until they fix this.

 

Back on-topic: I think all of us are fully aware of the perils facing expats in attempting to simply become registered (except for the trolls and troublemakers that seem to be attracted to threads like this).

 

But I also think a lot of our frustration is only the result of a shaky start to the rollout effort.  Obviously, the powers-that-be were WAY BEHIND THE CURVE compared with many other countries who acted clearly and decisively early on in approving and then procuring vaccines from abroad. 

 

Now Thailand is playing catch-up and that's going to take time.  I think the general sentiment that we expats may be waiting until next year for vaccination might be a bit overly pessimistic. 

 

Once vaccines already being shipped arrive, and once a more stable supply chain comes together, things should start happening far more quickly, and with a lot less confusion, and with MUCH BETTER public communication than were seeing right now.  I mean, let's face it, how could things get any worse than they are right now?  We have nowhere to go but UP from this point on.

Edited July 2, 2021 by WaveHunter

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'm pretty confident the waiting lists are just for the falang to go away and stop pestering the hospitals, i doubt anything will come of it

LOL...if that's the case they sure misjudged their strategy!  Just look at the explosion of negative sentiments posted on BHP's facebook page yesterday from angry and irate expats. 

 

None of what BHP did yesterday makes any sense.  If all they wanted to do was placate us, they should have just left the registration site open and allowed everyone that wished to register do so, since the only purpose SHOULD have been to create a waiting list or queue of those who wished to receive the Moderna vaccine for pay.

 

I mean, what difference does it make how many people register their interest?  They are all in queue in a first come-first served order, starting with number 1 and continuing to whatever! 

 

There is no QUOTA associated to a waiting list.  There is only a quota on how many can receive vaccination from a given shipment of vaccines.  Once new shipments come in, a new quota is set from the remaining waiting list based on how many vaccines have now entered the supply chain, and so on, and so on, until everybody on the waiting list is accommodated.

 

THAT is the way a registration list (waiting list) is supposed to work!

 

Also, you can not be "Sold Out" of something you have not yet even ordered?  The purpose of registration should have simply been to set up a queue of those interested in receiving the Moderna vaccine ONCE IT HAS ARRIVED...PERIOD!

 

To any reasonably intelligent person, this so-called registration was simply a poorly conceived marketing study to determine how many people would be willing to pay for vaccines, just like the registration scheme of the Pattaya Memorial Hospital, which also basically shut down before it even was launched.

 

If true that people were able to register in person at BHP after the online registration was curtailed, that's even more troubling!  To shut down online registration which is firstly 100% safe from a social distancing standpoint, but allow people to queue up in-person for hours, which obviously violates any sense of safe social distancing is completely OUTRAGEOUS!  It is also unfair to many who had no idea that registration was still possible after the shutdown of online registration.  The whole situation just SUCKS, to put it bluntly!

 

BOTH hospitals basically violated the guidelines set forth by the Private Hospital Association who are the ones procuring the Moderna vaccines on their member hospitals behalf, as they were very specific about how private hospitals should handle the registration and rollout in terms of timeframe.  I'm betting THAT is the real reason these so-called registration schemes were discontinued. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by WaveHunter

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

False.

I live in Pattaya and got jabbed in Bangkok.  When checking in the nurse asked me where I live and I told her Pattaya, no problem.

Sad also seems that people missed out on an opportunity as reported by several on TV they did not proceed when the Bangkok hospitals option came up on the registration.

 

It was true that it was possible to register for a Bangkok Hospital when thailandintervac.com was functional which it hasn't been for weeks and we have no news on whether it ever will be restored. 

You took a risk and it worked out. Good.

But it wasn't at all unreasonable to assume there.would be residency requirements back then especially as back then the CCSA had explicitly promised that the rest of the country would be included on that website in due course. Also originally Bangkok Pattaya Hospital was on their list but showing no availability. I think most Pattaya expats saw that as a strong indicator that Pattaya was well on the way to be fully included. 

 

Cheers. 

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

False.

I live in Pattaya and got jabbed in Bangkok.  When checking in the nurse asked me where I live and I told her Pattaya, no problem.

Sad also seems that people missed out on an opportunity as reported by several on TV they did not proceed when the Bangkok hospitals option came up on the registration.

Sorry but you are mistaken.  You were only one of the lucky few who slipped through the cracks of a very flawed online registration system.

 

The main reason that some who live in Chonburi managed to get vaccinated in Bangkok was because both the MorProm platform and the InterVac platform were so screwed up, that they did not take into account that the applicant's home province did not match the province of the hospital that the applicant selected.

 

In fact there were reports from many Chonburi residents who initially received an appointment date, and then later were denied for this this reason. 

 

According to several different Official CCSA briefings, you MUST be a resident of the province from which you will receive vaccinations. And of course it is only logical that such a rule would exist or else you'd have people flooding into Bangkok for vaccinations from other provinces, when the whole vaccination strategy right now is to vaccinate high risk GEOGRAPHIC REGIONS as a priority, not have residents of other provinces compromising those priorities.

Edited July 2, 2021 by WaveHunter

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

THe only problem with your suggestion is that you must be a legal resident of the province that you seek vaccination from, so Bangkok is not an option for anyone resideing in another province, unfortunately.

I have certainly read of people living in Pattaya registering for the free jab at a Bangkok Hospital, traveling there and receiving the jab.

[WaveHunter]

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

I have certainly read of people living in Pattaya registering for the free jab at a Bangkok Hospital, traveling there and receiving the jab.

I know but read my reply above...

[Surelynot]

25 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Sorry but you are mistaken.  You were only one of the lucky few who slipped through the cracks of a very flawed online registration system.

 

The main reason that some who live in Chonburi managed to get vaccinated in Bangkok was because both the MorProm platform and the InterVac platform were so screwed up, that they did not take into account that the applicant's home province did not match the province of the hospital that the applicant selected.

 

In fact there were reports from many Chonburi residents who initially received an appointment date, and then later were denied for this this reason. 

 

According to several different Official CCSA briefings, you MUST be a resident of the province from which you will receive vaccinations. And of course it is only logical that such a rule would exist or else you'd have people flooding into Bangkok for vaccinations from other provinces, when the whole vaccination strategy right now is to vaccinate high risk GEOGRAPHIC REGIONS as a priority, not have residents of other provinces compromising those priorities.

So the Thai's have a system where the Intervac website automatically cross references the address you enter with address you are registered. as living at via your passport number? Pull the other one.....seriously?

 

I must have been one of the lucky ones.....might do the lottery.

Edited July 2, 2021 by Surelynot

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

They never asked me if i was a legal resident. Its a private hospital they really dont care. Did not even have to give in an address or any other proof.

I was speaking of the public registration.  I guess it reasonable that a private hospital would not care for the reasons I stated about public rollout though...so you may have something there ????

 

What hospital did you do this with?

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

I was speaking of the public registration.  I guess it reasonable that a private hospital would not care for the reasons I stated about public rollout though...so you may have something there ????

 

What hospital did you do this with?

THG Thonburi Healthcare group. 

 

I left out my phone nr (eddited away) not my name as its my forum name

Edited July 2, 2021 by robblok

[WaveHunter]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

THG Thonburi Healthcare group. 

 

I left out my phone nr (eddited away) not my name as its my forum name

Unfortunately, they say they are closed to further registrations now ????I remember they had a LINE app for registering last month.

Edited July 2, 2021 by WaveHunter

[robblok]

Just now, WaveHunter said:

Unfortunately, they say they are closed to further registrations now ????

Sorry to hear that.. I registered a while back when you and I were talking about it in PM