Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Let's hope it's just a blip, and be grateful that the exponential rise predicted by some has not materialised. Are you guessing that the exponential has not materialised or do you know this for a fact considering the seemingly lack of testing and the flatline nature of the numbers and are you confident that the numbers being reported are a true reflection of what is actually happening? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, anchadian said: In an interview this morning following news that Chulabhorn Royal Academy has been given permission to import vaccine, Anutin, the Minister of Public Health, said he doesn’t know anything about it #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1397737642205138944 Must be fake news then, or wait "Your out of the loop now Anutin" best look for a new job soon. Someone above seems concerned the antics daily are detrimental to the country, and I agree. Edited May 27, 2021 by ThailandRyan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, anchadian said: Anutin, the Minister of Public Health, said he doesn’t know anything about it we've been saying that on here for months 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 An off-topic post regarding UK politics has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sametboy2019 Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 Starting to feel like they only do 4000 tests a day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sandyf Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, dinsdale said: One wonders how many told Prayut to lockdown after the Thong Lor spread and that going ahead with Songkran is insanity. A bit irrelevant. At the end of the day has the situation been handled worse than any other country? The UK and Thailand are similar sized population, come back when the number of deaths are similar. 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said: Starting to feel like they only do 4000 tests a day. I started getting that feeling 15 months ago and my brother says I'm slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said: Starting to feel like they only do 4000 tests a day. Yesterday, day before? Victoria, Australia did 26,000 tests. Edited May 27, 2021 by dinsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: the most 100% avoidable. Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Yep. It is being reported daily. The process is that clusters of hospital walk in cases are investigated, contact tracing is performed, and if it seems that there are significant cases numbers, the mobile testing units are brought in for mass testing. Typically, a Hotspot will be a factory, construction site, or a neighborhood. These will be isolated, positive cases will be sent to a field hospital or hospital, and testing will continue until all positive cases are identified and treated. That eliminates the Hotspot. Thank you for finally agreeing that testing is limited to known hotspots, and not done randomly, as it should be. Now if only you also could agree, that even the number of tests performed in those hotspots is limited. Edited May 27, 2021 by Susco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Are you guessing that the exponential has not materialised or do you know this for a fact considering the seemingly lack of testing and the flatline nature of the numbers and are you confident that the numbers being reported are a true reflection of what is actually happening? I'm guessing. If the statistics cannot be believed what else can we do? I do think however that if people were dying in their thousands and there were scenes like there were in India, it would be reflected in social media. But, thankfully, there is no sign of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Yesterday Victoria, Australia did 26,000 tests. Actually 40,400 tests to find 12 cases. How does this compare to Bangkok? Edited May 27, 2021 by LosLobo Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, sungod said: Are you sure? If you are going to quote me I would appreciate you quote my entire post. If you want to highlight your point then underline it thanks. As for almost 100% of the current infections and deaths being avoidable. Yep. Total lockdown after Thong Lor outbreak, no interprovincial travel, borders shut tight and definitely no Songkran and massive amounts of testing. The situation we have now would not exist. Edited May 27, 2021 by dinsdale 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Chonburi announces 52 new cases of Covid -19 The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 52 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today (May 27th). This makes a total of 4,395 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 898 still in medical care, with a total of 21 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. Additionally, 3,476 people in total have now been released from medical care and fully recovered since this current wave began. 53 people were released yesterday. More: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/27/chonburi-announces-52-new-cases-of-covid-19/ Edited May 27, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neal182 Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 Melbourne Australia. Lockdown starts midnight tonight. 26 cases found so far. 26k test results yesterday 40k test results today. Most, if not all, positive cases from known contacts. Why can't Thailand share it's magic with Australia and the rest of the world. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Susco said: Thank you for finally agreeing that testing is limited to known hotspots, and not done randomly, as it should be. Now if only you also could agree, that even the number of tests performed in those hotspots is limited. There isn’t enough testing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Regarding vaccines, despite all the varied talk from the government, AFAIK, they have yet to finalize ANY deal for any OTHER vaccines beyond the imported Chinese Sinovac and the promised local production of AstraZeneca. --They've promised 20 million doses of the Thai FDA approved Pfizer vaccine, but the last I saw in the past week was a Thai report saying a proposed contract had been submitted to the Attorney General for review. --the talk of 5 million imported Thai FDA approved Moderna vaccines seems to have been relegated to the realm of the private hospitals only, and there's been no substantive word lately on any specific timeframe for those doses to actually become available, nor any word of an actual contractual agreement. --The PM previously promised plans to import Sputnik vaccine doses from Russia, but the Sputnik vaccine hasn't been approved yet by the Thai FDA, and I've heard zero mention anytime recently on what's become of that effort. --the Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been approved by the Thai FDA, and it's been vaguely mentioned with plans to acquire 10 million doses. But again, no public information of where they are with acquisition of those doses or when/how they would be used. All of the above making the sudden, reported entry of the Chulabhorn Royal Academy into Thailand's vaccines effort a rather interesting development, especially at this rather late point in the process. Will they be able to make any meaningful and rapid progress on the vaccines front now, when the government's efforts largely have stalled and fumbled in recent months? Edited May 27, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob29 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Only in your view and dreams. The spread continues from one Hotspot to the next. Stop fooling yourself. It's going to spread from one hotspot to the next no matter what. Stop fooling yourself that mass testing would resolve the situation. It would slow the spread, but it's not going to contain the spread of these more contagious variants. Very early on it has a chance at containing the spread, but that horse has bolted. Mass testing would be nice, but you seem to be exaggerating just how impactful it would be in the current environment. South Korea is at 40k tests/day, it's still not under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 58 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Are you guessing that the exponential has not materialised or do you know this for a fact considering the seemingly lack of testing and the flatline nature of the numbers and are you confident that the numbers being reported are a true reflection of what is actually happening? Given hospital occupancy rates, yeah, the published numbers are reasonably accurate. Although I am sure a new cluster will be discovered tomorrow, it won’t impact the overall situation that much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Thai Enquirer: “The ruling elites have split and that move by HRH Princess Chulabhorn has highlighted the royal anxiety over the government’s mishandling of the crisis. What this means in practice is that our government is no longer in control of its health care apparatus.” https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1397743591032705024 Things just got real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: No surprise to see the numbers steadily rising. Indicative of a worsening crisis. Yes, this English B117 highly contagious variant is a real killer. Thankfully 47 dead is the highest, the UKs worst day with it was 1,832 dead. I have confidence the Thais will come out of this better than the UK or any of the European countries did. The measures taken have resulted in a much slower spread than we saw in the UK where it just exploded. RIP 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said: Starting to feel like they only do 4000 tests a day. I think that testing has been limited, deliberately or due to a shortage of testing apparatus, for some time now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, jacob29 said: It's going to spread from one hotspot to the next no matter what. Stop fooling yourself that mass testing would resolve the situation. It would slow the spread, but it's not going to contain the spread of these more contagious variants. Very early on it has a chance at containing the spread, but that horse has bolted. Mass testing would be nice, but you seem to be exaggerating just how impactful it would be in the current environment. South Korea is at 40k tests/day, it's still not under control. If you mean “under control” = complete eradication, you are correct. But the current set of tactics used by the government will get the situation back to the levels of last March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Although I am sure a new cluster will be discovered tomorrow, it won’t impact the overall situation that much. Which is because............. 11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing. So in fact, the situation which get presented to us every day again, isn't the real situation Edited May 27, 2021 by Susco 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: I'm guessing. If the statistics cannot be believed what else can we do? I do think however that if people were dying in their thousands and there were scenes like there were in India, it would be reflected in social media. But, thankfully, there is no sign of that. I'm sure one could get scenes similar to those we saw from India and elsewhere if the desire was there but unfortunately one might breach the strict digital rules here as all information is vetted by those who say they are in control of the situation and their transparency rating suggests that they are not being entirely forthcoming with information on the true situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, RobMuir said: Yes, this English B117 highly contagious variant is a real killer. Thankfully 47 dead is the highest, the UKs worst day with it was 1,832 dead. I have confidence the Thais will come out of this better than the UK or any of the European countries did. The measures taken have resulted in a much slower spread than we saw in the UK where it just exploded. RIP What an odd thing to post. Do you see this as some sort of competition? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacob29 Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neal182 said: Melbourne Australia. Lockdown starts midnight tonight. 26 cases found so far. 26k test results yesterday 40k test results today. Most, if not all, positive cases from known contacts. Why can't Thailand share it's magic with Australia and the rest of the world. If Thailand was a wealthy nation, I'm sure they would have locked down more aggressively as they did last year. Think about the reasons why they're so hesitant to do a strict lockdown. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: But the current set of tactics used by the government will get the situation back to the levels of last March. Apparently other institutions disagree. https://www.thaienquirer.com/27937/chulabhorn-institute-given-sweeping-healthcare-powers-in-late-night-announcement/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said: I'm sure one could get scenes similar to those we saw from India and elsewhere if the desire was there but unfortunately one might breach the strict digital rules here as all information is vetted by those who say they are in control of the situation and their transparency rating suggests that they are not being entirely forthcoming with information on the true situation. To see scenes like in India, the virus would have to be hitting villages to the same extent it does in India. But that isn’t happening. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, RobMuir said: Thankfully 47 dead is the highest, the UKs worst day with it was 1,832 dead. The highest so far you mean. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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