I have been told that some condo managements had allowed to open their pools again already, given that swimming at the beach is allowed again as well.. Any news about that ?

Which province?

9 minutes ago, samtam said:

Which province?

Chonburi not announced yet, but rumour has it that few condos Jomtien opened their pools already

Condo in Central Pattaya. Pool still closed. Would be a relief if it reopened. I have had lower back-ache for a month now and it doesn't go away in spite of exercices every morning. A bit of swimming could be just what the doctor ordered.

I'm in Bangkok. The pool at my condo is closed, although it's one of the least risky places to take exercise, when the pool is properly chlorinated and with the correct pH balance. But the dinos who make up these rules think pools equal loadsa people intermingling; it might in a public pool, but here even pre closure, I rarely had to swim with anyone else in the pool. But science and rule making are not connected here, as we know. And other condos which I can see from my balcony, have chosen to ignore the temporary closure order, on pools, tennis courts, other outside facilities etc. 

 

They know its mostly farang that love pools so that's all the more reason to drag out the reopening of the pools...

 

Thais seem to just meekly accept any pool restrictions in our condo....Where as farangs are not afraid to speak up loud and often....

It wont be long before the beach is closed yet again.  It says neach is open bit not large crowds or alcohol... well give an inch they take a mile.  Plenty crowds and alcohol on beach on the first day open.  People dont want the beach open of they are so quick to violate the law so blatantly. 

16 hours ago, samtam said:

I'm in Bangkok. The pool at my condo is closed, although it's one of the least risky places to take exercise

People keep carping on about this and it is the same as the beaches. When open, people congregate there in numbers, and an unsafe environment is created. Whether the ppm of chlorine or ph number is correct, does not matter a damn, when people are sitting round a table mask-less, talking and socializing. 

I agree that it is similar to restaurants, which have been allowed ,but there is an attempt to give people a place to eat and some businesses to operate. 

For sure there will be a group of empty heads drinking on the beach soon putting new liberty in jeopardy. 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

 

For sure there will be a group of empty heads drinking on the beach soon putting new liberty in jeopardy. 

 

The only thing that puts liberty in jeopardy is watch to much news.....

And condo committees who really get off on closing pools whenever possible....

1 minute ago, redwood1 said:

 

The only thing that puts liberty in jeopardy is watch to much news.....

Or the only thing to put liberty in jeopardy is to abuse it.  

Pool at my condo in Sri Racha is open, has been for weeks, gym too!

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

People keep carping on about this and it is the same as the beaches. When open, people congregate there in numbers, and an unsafe environment is created. Whether the ppm of chlorine or ph number is correct, does not matter a damn, when people are sitting round a table mask-less, talking and socializing. 

I agree that it is similar to restaurants, which have been allowed ,but there is an attempt to give people a place to eat and some businesses to operate. 

For sure there will be a group of empty heads drinking on the beach soon putting new liberty in jeopardy. 

      I have to respectfully disagree.  What you describe is not the case with my Pattaya condo, nor my Bangkok condo.  My partner and I mostly had the huge pools to ourselves when we swam before the closing.  In Pattaya, there's not a lot of people at the condo in the first place with covid so it would be hard to scare up enough people living here to 'congregate there in numbers'.   In Bangkok, most of the residents work during the day so the pool is deserted.  That project has mostly Thai residents and they also avoid the sun during the day.   Even pre-covid, the pool was not a social gathering place for the Thais.  They come down, do their laps or watch their kids swim for awhile, and then leave.  

      Both condo projects at some points had marked off 3 swim lanes with ropes and the pools are so big that there was easily more than the required separation.  Both pools also have very large deck areas so it would be a simple matter to separate the seating to maintain social distancing.  

    Both projects also have pool attendants and both, at one point, had 1 hour sign-up sheets that limited the pool to 3 at a time in the 3 marked off lanes.  Seemed to work very well--I know we had less contact with other people than, say, in the elevators or when we are out shopping, at a restaurant, etc.

     I realize not all condo pools would match the two we use but it would be nice if condo pools would be treated more like private pools, which they essentially are as they are not open to the general public, and the condo projects be given the option to stay open or close.   Or, perhaps give them a set of guidelines to follow--number of swimmers allowed in the pool at one time, lane separation, etc.  

And now that it's been widely reported that the beaches are open again, a lot of the people in Bangkok who are fed up with the restrictions will want to drive down to Bang Saen and Jomtien for some fresh air and a bite to eat. There's no alcohol on sale on the beaches, but plenty in the Family Marts and 7-elevens just across Beach Road. All those visitors from the epicentre of the outbreak will spread the virus in Chonburi once again and in a few weeks time we'll be back to where we were a month ago. You'd think after allowing the Great Songkran Travel Disaster to happen that they'd have wised-up and seriously restricted travel out of the dark red zones, but they seem incapable of understanding the link between travel and the virus and instead seem to believe that it's only spread by drinking alcohol after 9:00 PM, lol.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Or the only thing to put liberty in jeopardy is to abuse it.  

Right on!

Just now, Tropposurfer said:

Right on!

Well said ... Not much liberty left if ya catch Covid and end up on a bl..dy ventilator and have multiple organ failure 

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

 Whether the ppm of chlorine or ph number is correct, does not matter a damn, when people are sitting round a table mask-less, talking and socializing. 

 

 

Yes, but they're not. Me, myself and I in and at the pool. Nobody else. Restrictions like a booking system of one unit's resident's registered to use for 1 hour would resolve that very thorny issue, when there is a condo pool with more than a smattering of its residents interested in using the pool. My point was just about the fallback sledgehammer to nut reaction, which like so many of these restrictions is ill-conceived.

 

Anyway, instead I have the glories of pounding the pavements by busy roads like Sathorn to exercise in a 1+ hours circuit. Well, me many others, and cars and motorcycles. And, with the absence of many cars yesterday evening, it was like being beside the TT track. (Note to self: must remember to wear ear plugs, as well as my mask.)

 

It's utterly absurd.

57 minutes ago, samtam said:

Yes, but they're not. Me, myself and I in and at the pool.

Lots of people say things like that.... but the evidence often contradicts. I can certainly go along with the concept that a condo pool is 'private'.. and could open. But that would also mean no guests allowed, no AirBnB or short term rentals, or out of town visitor either. The condo management don't like the risk, and there is no money in it for them to open the pool. 

I am actually more concerned by beaches but condo pools too.. if they attract Bangkok people here for short visits... my risk is elevated.

22 hours ago, JackGats said:

Condo in Central Pattaya. Pool still closed. Would be a relief if it reopened. I have had lower back-ache for a month now and it doesn't go away in spite of exercices every morning. A bit of swimming could be just what the doctor ordered.

Are you me?  You sound like me, I could have written this word for word.  ????

4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

The only thing that puts liberty in jeopardy is watch to much news.....

And condo committees who really get off on closing pools whenever possible....

yep no pool low maintenance no cleaning no staff  .. Maintenance fee for condo same same 

23 hours ago, tontraveller said:

Chonburi not announced yet, but rumour has it that few condos Jomtiem opened their pools already

Why not? The self elected "PM" allows the Jomtiem Immigration office to have big crowds despite their being a pandemic on. What is more important, peoples health, peoples livelihoods, or stupid 90 day reporting and other very minor Immigration issues?

6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

People keep carping on about this and it is the same as the beaches. When open, people congregate there in numbers, and an unsafe environment is created. Whether the ppm of chlorine or ph number is correct, does not matter a damn, when people are sitting round a table mask-less, talking and socializing. 

I agree that it is similar to restaurants, which have been allowed ,but there is an attempt to give people a place to eat and some businesses to operate. 

For sure there will be a group of empty heads drinking on the beach soon putting new liberty in jeopardy. 

If it is safe for people to congregate at IOs, then it is safe for people to congregate at swimming pools, beaches etc.

18 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

yep no pool low maintenance no cleaning no staff  .. Maintenance fee for condo same same 

 

Our closed pool is maintained every day. Chlorine and pH checked and adjusted as required. Pool cleaning company come every scheduled day, (3x per week) and that is supplemented, if necessary, by our condo (technicians) staff.

55 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Why not? The self elected "PM" allows the Jomtiem Immigration office to have big crowds despite their being a pandemic on. What is more important, peoples health, peoples livelihoods, or stupid 90 day reporting and other very minor Immigration issues?

 

I was in Jomtien immigration office 2 days ago and it was packed in there......But a few people in a pool is DANGEROUS ........LOL 

1 minute ago, redwood1 said:

 

I was in Jomtien immigration office 2 days ago and it was packed in there......But a few people in a pool is DANGEROUS ........LOL 

What is the most dangerous for spreading the Chinese virus, a packed IO especially one the size of the one in Jomtien, or a few people in a swimming pool?

2 hours ago, samtam said:

 

Our closed pool is maintained every day. Chlorine and pH checked and adjusted as required. Pool cleaning company come every scheduled day, (3x per week) and that is supplemented, if necessary, by our condo (technicians) staff.

Not the case at my condo in Jomtien where I have only seen a pool clean once in the last 2 months,. Additionally gym door has remained locked, so no cleaning necessary, and the garden contractors who serviced the condo grounds are now rarely seen.  

Not sure if any staff have been layed off or put on short time, but I suspect this is the case as I don't see so many around.  One or two have been re-assigned as temperature takers at the entrances to the condo where they play with their phones 90% of the time.  So as far as I can tell, extra costs for the condo management are 4 or 5 hand-held temperature checkers, a few bottles of alcohol hand gel left at the entrances and tape to mark/seal off areas where residents are now forbidden to go. 

I think the condo management team are financially doing very well out of the situation !! ????

On 6/3/2021 at 1:28 PM, tontraveller said:

Chonburi not announced yet, but rumour has it that few condos Jomtien opened their pools already

Condo in Jomtien opened 14th May after being closed nearly a month. Been diving in daily since. 

56 minutes ago, jaygino said:

Not the case at my condo in Jomtien where I have only seen a pool clean once in the last 2 months,. Additionally gym door has remained locked, so no cleaning necessary, and the garden contractors who serviced the condo grounds are now rarely seen.  

Not sure if any staff have been layed off or put on short time, but I suspect this is the case as I don't see so many around.  One or two have been re-assigned as temperature takers at the entrances to the condo where they play with their phones 90% of the time.  So as far as I can tell, extra costs for the condo management are 4 or 5 hand-held temperature checkers, a few bottles of alcohol hand gel left at the entrances and tape to mark/seal off areas where residents are now forbidden to go. 

I think the condo management team are financially doing very well out of the situation !! ????

 

The management (Savills) at our condo reports to the committee. We have a full complement of staff - 6 technicians (rota), 20 security guards (rota), 15 cleaning staff, 2 gardeners, plus pool cleaning contractor, and only 132 units, which is less than 70% occupied, although 100% owned . We have spent a considerable amount of time and money on making the condo as safe as is possible from Covid. The management company doesn't make any money out of this pandemic. The condo is professionally run.

Please PM me a condo with gym and/or pool open in Pattaya ? I need to stay there few weeks. Thank you.

On 6/3/2021 at 4:22 PM, redwood1 said:

They know its mostly farang that love pools so that's all the more reason to drag out the reopening of the pools...

 

Thais seem to just meekly accept any pool restrictions in our condo....Where as farangs are not afraid to speak up loud and often....

Agree, they are afraid that farang would use the pool for parties (which has never been the case at least for our condo).

16 hours ago, samtam said:

 

Our closed pool is maintained every day. Chlorine and pH checked and adjusted as required. Pool cleaning company come every scheduled day, (3x per week) and that is supplemented, if necessary, by our condo (technicians) staff.

Likely on a contract basis... may even include the chemicals. Is it salt based as that usually only requires salt addition?