Thailand reports 3,175 new COVID-19 cases, 29 more deaths

[Caldera]

It's not looking good lately. I'd be interested in an up to date breakdown of Covid variants currently on the loose.

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

It's not looking good lately. I'd be interested in an up to date breakdown of Covid variants currently on the loose.

All.  Alpha, Beta, Delta, the South African variant, and then well your gues if the double variant from Vietnam is here.

[chilly07]

But the first poll question reveals the desire for 500000 jabs per day for 120 days as a prerequisite for opening!!

[RupertIII]

37 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

All.  Alpha, Beta, Delta, the South African variant, and then well your gues if the double variant from Vietnam is here.

Some more on the Beta variant - https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/

 

AstraZenaca's efectiveness against it is somewhat worrying.

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, RupertIII said:

Some more on the Beta variant - https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/

 

AstraZenaca's efectiveness against it is somewhat worrying.

Oh dear. AZ is not very good on the South African strain and its now in 12 Provinces including Phuket

Edited June 21, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[rabas]

31 minutes ago, RupertIII said:

Some more on the Beta variant - https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/

 

AstraZenaca's efectiveness against it is somewhat worrying.

Well, that was fast.  It marched straight from the border to Phuket. Thailand could see a triple wave where UK_α , India_δ and SA_β fight it out for dominance.

 

From your article:

"The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said."

 

[anchadian]

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158096811882050

[morrobay]

52 minutes ago, RupertIII said:

Some more on the Beta variant - https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/

 

AstraZenaca's efectiveness against it is somewhat worrying.

Ok these are very pure data points for beta R0 calculation: index case May 29 and 402 cases June 21. So  1 (R0)^8 =402  Then 8 (logR0) = log 402  Then log R0 = 2.604/8.      Therefore R0 = 10^.3255 = 2.1159

Exponent of growth , 24days/3 day infection interval , is 8.

 

Edited June 21, 2021 by morrobay

[Bkk Brian]

18 minutes ago, rabas said:

Well, that was fast.  It marched straight from the border to Phuket. Thailand could see a triple wave where UK_α , India_δ and SA_β fight it out for dominance.

 

From your article:

"The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said."

 

Also as worrying from the link

 

In terms of vaccine effectiveness against the Beta variant, Dr Supakit said the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is becoming Thailand’s main vaccine, has only a 10.4-per-cent chance to protect against infection from the Beta variant and it cannot prevent severe symptoms.

A study also showed that the level of protection offered by the Sinovac vaccine, another main vaccine in the country, dropped by 70 per cent against the Beta variant, he added.

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Also as worrying from the link

 

In terms of vaccine effectiveness against the Beta variant, Dr Supakit said the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is becoming Thailand’s main vaccine, has only a 10.4-per-cent chance to protect against infection from the Beta variant and it cannot prevent severe symptoms.

A study also showed that the level of protection offered by the Sinovac vaccine, another main vaccine in the country, dropped by 70 per cent against the Beta variant, he added.

Just think. 1st dose of vaccine now, 2nd dose 16 weeks from now.  Variants will not wait, so the vaccination is useless and yet they want to open Phuket up on July 1st.   Insanity....

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just think. 1st dose of vaccine now, 2nd dose 16 weeks from now.  Variants will not wait, so the vaccination is useless and yet they want to open Phuket up on July 1st.   Insanity....

Say goodbye to the trickle of tourists expected with this around. I'm pretty sure Thailand will be on the red list of most countries soon.

Edited June 21, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

Good news for people in Phuket. Starting from today the sale and consumption of alcohol is allowed in restaurants up to 11pm. Shopping malls and convenience stores are allowed to operate during their normal hours. Gyms, water parks and cinemas are also allowed to open #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1406953675294052356

 

[ThailandRyan]

32 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Good news for people in Phuket. Starting from today the sale and consumption of alcohol is allowed in restaurants up to 11pm. Shopping malls and convenience stores are allowed to operate during their normal hours. Gyms, water parks and cinemas are also allowed to open #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1406953675294052356

 

Prepping for the 600k they are expecting........maybe by 2025

[Artisi]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

If the India variant (and others) really gain traction in Thailand which I think they will then based on what I seen reported from other countries - I am genuinely worried 

 

Up the creek without a paddle would best decribe it with little chance of getting any protection through an effective vaccine - this is really a very dire situation developing especially with the government more interested in tourism than the health of the nation 

 

They really need to rethink their priorities and fast - probably too late now

Think being the key, a bloody useless key in Thailand as it doesn't include trains, planes, tanks or Submarines, plus the occasional car or watch. 

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, rabas said:

Well, that was fast.  It marched straight from the border to Phuket. Thailand could see a triple wave where UK_α , India_δ and SA_β fight it out for dominance.

 

From your article:

"The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said."

 

Expect travel restrictions from the South to be implemented soon. 

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just think. 1st dose of vaccine now, 2nd dose 16 weeks from now.  Variants will not wait, so the vaccination is useless and yet they want to open Phuket up on July 1st.   Insanity....

Try to go to Puket after July 1st, and you will see just how "open" it is. It will be far from a free-for-all'. 

[anchadian]

The French Ambassador and

@FRenThailande

leading the way by vaccinating for free their elderly citizens in #Thailand. Will the other embassies now follow their good example?

 

The French embassy will provide free vaccines for french nationals in Thailand aged over 55. They have partnered with hospitals in eight areas in #Thailand, including Bangkok, Hua Hin, Pattaya, Khon Kaen, Koh Samui, Phuket, and Udon Thani.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1406975134674526216

 

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Good news for people in Phuket. Starting from today the sale and consumption of alcohol is allowed in restaurants up to 11pm. Shopping malls and convenience stores are allowed to operate during their normal hours. Gyms, water parks and cinemas are also allowed to open #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1406953675294052356

 

Amazing. I’m speechless.

 

what have tourists got that locals haven’t? If it weren’t for a bunch of tourists supposedly arriving, we’d still be drinking water at restaurants because alcohol isn’t safe. But now we’re going to have tourists, suddenly it’s safe.

 

I’m sure decisions are supposed to be made on the grounds of public health. But I just fail to see how public health factored into this one. If it’s safe in Phuket, why not other yellow zone provinces

 

 

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

The French Ambassador and

@FRenThailande

leading the way by vaccinating for free their elderly citizens in #Thailand. Will the other embassies now follow their good example?

 

The French embassy will provide free vaccines for french nationals in Thailand aged over 55. They have partnered with hospitals in eight areas in #Thailand, including Bangkok, Hua Hin, Pattaya, Khon Kaen, Koh Samui, Phuket, and Udon Thani.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1406975134674526216

 

Hats off to the French. There was a problem for their citizens, they did something about it.

[anchadian]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

Amazing. I’m speechless.

 

what have tourists got that locals haven’t? If it weren’t for a bunch of tourists supposedly arriving, we’d still be drinking water at restaurants because alcohol isn’t safe. But now we’re going to have tourists, suddenly it’s safe.

 

I’m sure decisions are supposed to be made on the grounds of public health. But I just fail to see how public health factored into this one. If it’s safe in Phuket, why not other yellow zone provinces

 

 

Here are all of the provinces in the yellow zone. The governors of these provinces are now allowed to give the green light to the sale and consumption of alcohol in restaurants. Phuket is one of the first to do this. Any more? #Thailand

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1406960498998857731

 

[wensiensheng]

4 hours ago, rabas said:

Well, that was fast.  It marched straight from the border to Phuket. Thailand could see a triple wave where UK_α , India_δ and SA_β fight it out for dominance.

 

From your article:

"The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said."

 

I might be wrong, but I don’t think it’s proven yet that these cases are the beta variant. Still awaiting results on samples sent to Bangkok I think.

 

fingers crossed on this one, screw the tourists issue, beta cases would really cause me personal concern.

 

Update: I just read that it IS primarily beta cases. A bit of a game changer.

Edited June 21, 2021 by wensiensheng

[CG1 Blue]

12 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Also in the news

a Ugandan tests postive for covid in Tokoyo. Ok nothing suprising there except this person is an athlete there for the Olympics and is fully vaccinated with AZ.  

And is he/she seriously ill? Surely that is the more important question. Did the vaccine do it's job and stop him/her ending up in hospital. 

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

And is he/she seriously ill? Surely that is the more important question. Did the vaccine do it's job and stop him/her ending up in hospital. 

Probably, but equally probably he was/is infectious to other people who may or may not be vaccinated. I think that’s the issue.

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Hats off to the French. There was a problem for their citizens, they did something about it.

Ditto that.

I almost mocked this when was flagged by French ambassador week or two ago. Hats off to the French.

 

Is it possible to change nationalities. 

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[mancub]

7 hours ago, bluedoc said:

Thailand logged 29 deaths and 3,175 new cases over a 24-hour period on Monday. Of the total cases, 2,089 were locals who tested positive in hospitals, 901 tested positive in proactive testing campaigns, 140 were found infected in prisons and 45 were arrivals from overseas

so we see that proactive testing is only 900.what an utter disgrace. We see that it’s walk ins that are the major components of these figures.

No way am I defending the scope of pro-active testing, but to be fair, the 901 figure quoted is the number of positive cases found, not the number of tests done.

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5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Also as worrying from the link

 

In terms of vaccine effectiveness against the Beta variant, Dr Supakit said the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is becoming Thailand’s main vaccine, has only a 10.4-per-cent chance to protect against infection from the Beta variant and it cannot prevent severe symptoms.

A study also showed that the level of protection offered by the Sinovac vaccine, another main vaccine in the country, dropped by 70 per cent against the Beta variant, he added.

Data from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine team suggests it protects just as well against the Alpha variant. It offers less protection against the Beta variant - but should still protect against severe illness.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Data from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine team suggests it protects just as well against the Alpha variant. It offers less protection against the Beta variant - but should still protect against severe illness.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820

 

Yes thanks I've read a couple of those previously.

 

I'm looking at this from the perspective of stopping the spread, containing it, eradicating it and opening up the country.

 

The fact is we have to be realistic here, it may indeed as suggested still protect from serious illness although that study was with 2,000 people of average age 31 years.

 

The studies are still ongoing and even at this stage they also say that AZ offers minimal protection against mild symptoms. There is a reason its trial was stopped in South Africa and why they carried out surge testing in the UK for this variant. That is because it cannot stop the spread of the virus.

 

South Africa, where B.1.351 is circulating, suggest the variant can escape some immunity and may not stop infections with AZ.

 

10.4% efficacy against mild-to-moderate infections caused by the B.1.351 South Africa variant is just not enough, plain and simple.

 

Nobody should get complacent about the Beta discovery, it needs to be highlighted just how dangerous it is and contain it asap.

Edited June 21, 2021 by Bkk Brian

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Thailand reports 4,059 new COVID-19 cases, 35 more deaths

 

File photo//REUTERS/Juarawee Kittisilpa

Thailand on Tuesday (June 22) reported 4,059 new COVID-19 cases and 35 additional deaths over the past 24 hours.

 

Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1221275-thailand-reports-4059 new-covid-19-cases-35-more-deaths/

 

 

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