Private hospitals will need to reassess after official admits only half of Moderna vax will be available

[riclag]

45 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

I would hardly call it unfair basing. They deserve all the criticism they receive for doing such a <deleted> poor job in this very serious issue that needed more leadership from the government, not money hungry people pushing other agendas. 

Many on here seen this coming when Thai Govt was promoting and pushing the vaccine from you know who  and the China govt, $$$$$$$$

[cyril sneer]

45 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

I walked into Bangkok Hospital Udon Thani yesterday and paid 7,600 baht for 2 shots per person. 

 

Wife asked, this is for October, yes said the admin staff, so I have 2 receipts for the advertised price paid for and accepted, therefore that to me is a contract and we expect our shots in October for that price unless there is an unforeseen delay in the vaccines.

 

They can put the price up, but I won't be paying it and will hold them too the contract, price paid for goods to be received.

don't ever book with thai airways

[PEE TEE]

Not at all surprised we all know the Thai authorities  are full of lies just forget about getting vaccines most likely all copy's anyway 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, itsari said:

That is the normal trend in Thailand . No return of payments what ever the reason . Home pro has learnt how to do things . I shop there often .

I got a quote of a 3,800 for 2 shots of M vacc,while sending in a refundable deposit  ! If they don't commit to that within reason, I will be requesting my money back ! (private hospital in UD)

Edited June 24, 2021 by riclag

[hashmodha]

https://www.sinovacbook.com/

[PEE TEE]

9 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

don't ever book with thai airways

contract not worth the paper its printed on 

[mikeh]

Got my first jab at Phyathai 2 Hospital this afternoon. Loads of people waiting (hundreds) but the process was very well organized and went smoothly. I was out in 1-1/2 hours, including the 30-minute observation period after the vaccination. My next appointment was scheduled and I'm to receive the second jab in four weeks. Sometimes it's not a bad thing being older. In case anyone's interested, it was Sinovac: I don't see anything else on the horizon.

[malibukid]

3 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Translation:  You will take our SinoVac shots—or else.

and your going to like it followed by a wai

[malibukid]

3 hours ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

non- issue. keep your fake socialist group “caring” virtue signalling.

you all care only about your interests & thats natural & fine......

and the incessant moaning about reality here... sheesh. “we arent in kansas any more dorothy”.....

 

Anyway AZ 1st jabs for non -WP farangs starts tomorrow, depending on area.

my appt (supposedly) on saturday one mile away.....we’ll see.... step by step

wont be bitching here if not received.....

Moderna will be individually available or not. 5 or 10 mill jabs, what does it matter to you ?

no interest in millions of jabs group, only me & loved ones.

“other folk is just strangers” and can look after themselves 

aint nobody looking out for me except me....unless paid of course...

no NHS or western std. institutions here & you knew that didnt you....?

 

also that decision to live “up country”, knowing all services reduced, not looking too clever now then......

in my case its Beverly Hills, sorry

[thailand49]

No problem with me!  It is going as expected and that includes the Association claim a week ago 'EVERYONE" agree to charge the same. Thereafter you got a thread that was locked that hospital were taking 4000 baht up to 8000 by hospital to reserve for the Moderna! 

GOING AS EXPECTED!????

[4MyEgo]

56 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

don't ever book with thai airways

 

I hear credit cards are the way to go when booking airlines as the banks cop it when you cancel and they don't refund you, but then again, I don't own a credit card so wouldn't know.

 

Also heard it not only Thai Airways, many are not providing refunds ?

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

So thousands of Thai nationals who live in western countries get western vaccines for free.  But Expats here have limited options.  Amazing Thailand.

amazzing Lieland.

[Venom]

8 hours ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Starting to kinda get the feeling they're not in a rush to get rid of the virus.

Virus has been bery good for the few.????

[billd766]

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yes, you're right on the above point. The OP article seems a bit misleading on that point.

 

However, I was more alarmed/concerned to see them both 1.) muddling more about the potential price for the future shots after supposedly settling the price two different times before, and 2.) again admitting that they still don't as yet have a legal contract agreement for the Moderna vaccines in question.

 

Talk is cheap, and often meaningless, in Thailand, as the Moderna and broader vaccines debacle is again proving. And after all this time, what do we hear today:

 

"Dr Withoon said that negotiations with Zuellig Pharma were ongoing and a "Supply Agreement" would be ratified by attorneys in August."

 

They've been talking about and to Moderna now for MANY months... Just how long should it take to actually execute a real supply agreement that allows for the setting of real, concrete prices and delivery dates?

 

If you could get rid of the GPO and all the other leaches it should only take a couple of weeks for the agreement and perhaps another 5 years to regain the trust.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

"And if you mention extortion one more time I'll have your legs broken."

 

Mayor Carmine De Pasto

 

 

 

I haven't heard this, can you share a source?

I have a bottle of HP sauce I can share. (mood lightening comment).

[malibukid]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

No opposition, no checks and balances, no referendums, no fair elections...

Up to the Thai people to take power back if they don't like it.

but the Junta ordered all those Strike vehicles from Uncle Sam. hmmm.

Edited June 24, 2021 by malibukid

[James HB]

A billion times TIT!

[malibukid]

3 hours ago, club said:

My point is this , Thai people get jabbed first here. In the USA it doesn't matter what race you are , what your legal status is. Why cant it be that way here Ripper?

this is the land of xenophobia. it starts at an early age.  you can tell by the way the 3 and 4 year olds look at you.  and it continues.  we are at the back of the bus folks.  like it or leave it. its like being black in the Southern U.S. back in the day.  its real. just little asides everyday.  this is not an integrated society.  we are all white devils in the eyes of many Thai's and are excluded. have you ever been to an Thai night club. your invisible.  try and strike up a conversation.  try and apply for a credit card here. these are little things i know, but they all add up.  we expats are generally better educated and come from wealthier countries but it does not matter to them.  sorry to break it to you

Edited June 24, 2021 by malibukid

[worldview]

If my company employed attorneys that took over 6 months to prepare a supply agreement, we would fire them - Zuellig is an experienced pharma company and the private hospitals have been negotiating with the US pharma companies since before year-end - there is no way it takes this long to secure additional supplies of vaccines - as usual, the government thinks that people are stupid and cannot see thru the government's duplicity - and we all know who benefits from this 'supply' shortage - what a farce!

[eastendanto]

9 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

In any normal country, certain people would be held accountable for such a vaccine fiasco, and dismissals would be inevitable. 

But here, with his "whatever will be, will be" attitude, things will continue, and things will get progressively worse.

Nothing short of shambolic by this unelected regime.

Now I cannot be certain if the UK is a "normal country" in your own assessment of normal countries, but having witnessed first hand in the UK the debacle of what are covid rules n regs which are still ongoing and regular massaged to accommodate the privileged (UEFA 2.5K VIPS as an example), complete mess of PPE purchase and distribution in the early days and a Health Minister who has been labelled "hopeless" by the PM in recently released private whatsapp msgs, who must be made of tungsten, cos he still stands loud n proud and not in the least bit accountable...though if you look through the history of anyone in public service in the UK very view are held accountable for the complete mess of things they have made in the past.... after all, it's only tax payers money and there's plenty more taxes to be paid...the Vax rollout has been a success so he does get some brownie points, more by luck then planning, I would hazard a guess that if AZ/Oxford hadn't been developed in the UK and we had to rely on one of the other developed Vax's to buy and deploy, it would have been a much tougher gig...

[Surasak]

Just another double cross as per. What's new?

[Russell17au]

2 minutes ago, worldview said:

If my company employed attorneys that took over 6 months to prepare a supply agreement, we would fire them - Zuellig is an experienced pharma company and the private hospitals have been negotiating with the US pharma companies since before year-end - there is no way it takes this long to secure additional supplies of vaccines - as usual, the government thinks that people are stupid and cannot see thru the government's duplicity - and we all know who benefits from this 'supply' shortage - what a farce!

and how many other countries are trying to negotiate at the same time and to have their order delivered earlier than anyone else. Even the EU stopped a delivery of AZ from being exported to Australia which was ordered without a problem, because the EU wanted it for themselves. Maybe, just maybe it is not all the fault of the Thai Government maybe some of the fault lies with the big pharma companies and the countries that their head office is in. Also maybe some of these pharm companies just cannot meet the demand for their products.

[dutchweller]

Cannot wait to <deleted> of Thailand.

So sick of this corrupt backwards hole.

Just waiting to get out with the whole family 

Edited June 25, 2021 by metisdead
Profane acronym removed.

[Surasak]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Wont be long before they start saying that they cannot do the 2nd jab when required and the vaccine you had be useless and you have to start all over again

Now wouldn't that be a surprise.????

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Starting to kinda get the feeling they're not in a rush to get rid of the virus.

Well there is the argument that, for an unpopular autocratic government, beholden to a very small coterie of the extremely wealthy, who are effectively not directly affected by the virus (already vaccinated, no doubt with the best available, and living a sheltered life in which they do not interact with the common herd); a government with a somewhat (extremely) dubious electoral credibility, then the pandemic may have certain political advantages.

 

it justifies an indefinite state of emergency(S of E), largely freeing them from any parliamentary or judicial oversight. Whilst they have managed to create a remarkably compliant parliament that may not always be so. The S of E however will considerably simplify the task of manufacturing the conditions which will enable them to manufacture a "win" in the elections which are becoming visible on the horizon.

 

The now defunct narrative of a shiny knight on a white charger riding to the rescue of the nation (in the shape of Siam Bioscience producing more vaccine than the country, and indeed South East Asia could use) has failed. We will likely never know why, but it is not unreasonable to assume ineptitude and incompetence played a part. They may well have been calculating that if it had worked then an electoral "bounce" would have kept them in power. Now they will have to work at it. The S of E will help there.

 

The large and noisy demonstrations in Bangkok in recent months show how much they have alienated the younger middle class vote, already lost at the last election, their reaction to the protests will have just confirmed that. Arresting a young female protest leader and banging her up on trumped up charges, where she caught Covid 19 in prison, was not one of their brighter moves! The S of E will help keep that problem (youth dissatisfaction) under wraps - perhaps!

 

The rural peasantry, both on the farms and in the shape of their cash earning and remitting youth have been economically ruined by their inchoate restriction regimes, driven to a large extent by perceived profit opportunities for their wealthy sponsors. That community was of course, always a lost cause electorally, but they will need the S of E to keep a lid on their anger - perhaps!

 

Having got themselves into all kinds of messes, and with a possible electoral reckoning coming into view, then yes, it is quite possible that the presence of the virus, and its attendant S of E may very well be seen as a godsend by some.

[MrJ2U]

Its something to do with the Astra Zeneca plant in Thailand.  There going to be making as much profit as expected.  They don't want competition even if it destroys lives and livelihoods.

 

This country is run by the mafia in brown.

[Gandtee]

It would never surprise me if they began injecting saline  as a face saving operation just to appear that vaccinations are still ongoing.????

[MrJ2U]

Ive signed up and paid.  3,800 is already 3 times the price.  I don't mind but I do mind the idiots in charge playing Russian roulette with peoples lives.

 

 

[Thomas J]

So the order has just been placed and already it has been cut in half.  Now what do you think the odds are that the order for the 10 million doses was never placed to begin with.  If you thought you were being steered into taking one of the Chinese vaccines, look no further. 

[MrJ2U]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

He stressed that the GPO were not in charge of the import but were acting as the official go between.

True idiots running this.  Nobody has any clue.  You place an order and pay the bill.  Then you get the delivery.  Its so freaking simple!

 

Eventually some of these idiots will be hanging from a tree.  Thai people have to much patience with these pathetic bed wetters dressed as Generals.