Thailand reports 6,087 new COVID-19 cases, 61 more deaths

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

I hate to say this as it sounds very insensitive, but the government and its CCSA puppet are clearly unconcerned about daily case numbers, the only thing that is going to force them to take the action needed to get this outbreak under control and accelerate their inadequate vaccination programme is a very large spike in daily deaths. I don't believe the Thai people will stand by and accept the government's inaction when hundreds, or even thousands, of them are dying every day. It's an unfortunate thing to have to say, but they are sleepwalking into a disaster at the moment and the politicians need a very sharp kick up the backside to wake them up to the growing mess that is reality here.

In agreement 100% with you.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

The only other choice after that could be returning to you home country - you then be rinced upon your return to Thailand 

If I was say USA, I may have done that already.

My issue is that being Oz and not married to a Thai, the Oz gov may not allow me to return to Thailand. 

[rabas]

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

currently, based on the fact that 90% of cases are alpha, alpha is the problem.

 

delta is next month. Brace yourself for that one. It’ll be a doozy.

 

Delta was reported at 25% in Bangkok last week and is growing rapidly.  The growing percentage of Delta is probably the main cause in the rise.

 

They also said last week they will start to monitor 1/3 of all cases for variants. We shall see.

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

for suggesting that people wear masks inside their homes to curb the spread of Covid-19.

Glad  to see the stupidity is  carrying on

[smedly]

57 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Pretty certain these are only hospital deaths and the real number is being masked.

They started counting cases in prisons - are they counting deaths ?

 

I very much doubt it.

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, irishman25 said:

and take any vaccine that is offered,

Correct as they all stop serious  illness for most people, note MOST  not  ALL

[Olmate]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

If I was say USA, I may have done that already.

My issue is that being Oz and not married to a Thai, the Oz gov may not allow me to return to Thailand. 

If you.ve been here a good whileu don.t  need permission at all

[grain]

1 hour ago, irishman25 said:

sorry to say it only started and now with the new Delta virus taken hold and it will very quickly you all have to be more careful all over 60yrs more so this in now no laughing matter and take any vaccine that is offered, up to you now  

Problem is none are being offered, all I've had is refusals, and useless websites that don't work. I would eagerly accept ANY vaccine and gladly pay a big rip off price for it. 

[Meat Pie 47]

1 hour ago, WineOh said:

who remembers when this smug git claimed that the numbers were so low in Thailand and basically it was all down to him?

 

hope you don't choke on your words, sir!

don't call him Sir call him what he is a-hole

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, Olmate said:

If you.ve been here a good whileu don.t  need permission at all

Yes read that (been here 10 years, but always return couple times a year). It appears not huge issue but have read reports of some difficulties. 

With the way Thailand is heading, anything possible from Oz government.

[bkk6060]

49 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Would you say it's not a good idea to come to Bangkok for a while

It is a better idea not to let people leave Bangkok.

[smedly]

25 minutes ago, robblok said:

What is sad is that those deluded people influence others and spread misinformation. The internet has given those people far too much power. I am not laughing at them (maybe a bit) but I am more worried about the damage they do.

 

Those not believing act irresponsible making it worse for all of us and the more people they convince the worse it get.

some people will believe pretty much anything - I remember watching a docu about the "flat Earth" nutjobs - one thing that stood out was the huge houses and expensive cars belonging to the leading voices of this nonsense, they are cleaver con artists making millions from people who for some reason are just unable to rationalise the obvious, they believe that when we look up we are looking at a big TV screen and it is not a real sky .......... what !!!!!!!! lol  

[Bkk Brian]

ICU beds full at Bangkok’s Siriraj Hospital

 

The head of the respiratory disease and tuberculosis division at Siriraj Hospital says the facility has run out of beds in its intensive care unit. Dr. Nithiphat Chiarakun says at least 5 Covid-19 patients have been left waiting for an ICU bed as healthcare workers try to juggle what’s available.

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/icu-beds-full-at-bangkoks-siriraj-hospital

[Swimfan]

6 minutes ago, Daithi85 said:

Where was all the panic in 2018 with the huge number of flu related Deaths? 

Don't recall anything about ICUs filling to capacity, Countries running out of Oxygen, Refrigeration trailers outside hospitals for makeshift morgues and crematoriums running around the clock. 

Did i miss something ?  

[robblok]

@brewsterbudgen

 

Getting worse and worse do you still think opening schools is a good idea ?

 

Especially with the fact that there are clusters at child care too. So kids can get it too and spread it to you.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by robblok

[ChipButty]

7 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

It is a better idea not to let people leave Bangkok.

We are supposed to come Bangkok this month for a hospital appointment 

[smedly]

1 minute ago, ChipButty said:

We are supposed to come Bangkok this month for a hospital appointment 

I think you know the reply you are going to get from pretty much everyone on this thread

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, ChipButty said:

We are supposed to come Bangkok this month for a hospital appointment 

Where from.

Think there are only few road blocks out of Bangkok. You can find that information in "local forums...Bangkok" 

[Olmate]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes read that (been here 10 years, but always return couple times a year). It appears not huge issue but have read reports of some difficulties. 

With the way Thailand is heading, anything possible from Oz government.

Two pals returned last month no need for ok or even request defat.Today oz gave just cut caps to  return by %50 tho.

[Enzian]

I booked my flight out on 6/26, just a week ago. At that moment it was all about pressing matters at "home" in California, and the fact that a unit had conveniently become vacant that I could use. But already it seems that the situation in Bangkok would now in itself be reason to leave. Northern California is safer. But two weeks to go.

It's like when I was in Hanoi at the beginning of March 2020. I was looking at the news and getting nervous, but stuck with my scheduled flight out to BKK on March 11. On March 25 Thailand closed its borders.

[James105]

42 minutes ago, robblok said:

A lot of deniers are bar flies who look for excuses to open the night life. They don't reason from facts but from their desire to go out drinking and partying. While i understand that this lockdown is boring (i hate it too) people should understand that opening up high risk venues that are not essential will only contribute to the extra spread.

 

Then of course you got the more crazy ones who just think covid is a flue and vaccinations are bad.

 

To bad Darwins law does not work so good in our current society. In the old times when people were stupid they died now they get rescued anyway. 

 

Some of us care about non-covid deaths as well (e.g https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/28/freelance-musicians-death-raises-public-concerns-over-financial-crisis-in-thailand-during-covid-19-outbreak/).   It's not a case of denying the disease exists, but it's an acknowledgement that simply closing some things down will not solve the problem as too many people in any population will need to continue to go to work and provide services that everyone relies on.     People on here have bought into the line that only alcohol spreads covid, but unless people are drinking at work, just how many alcoholic drinks were consumed by those 6000ish that caught it yesterday?  

 

People on here also want hairdressers and massage parlours open (indoor activities), even though they are closer contact than an outdoor restaurant or outdoor bar, and naively think that masks provide any significant protection whilst engaging in these activities.     I think some on here also naively think that if the bars are closed then the company they order from TF would not have been partying with others, when in fact these girls will have been partying in small unventilated condos.   The girl you "order" will almost certainly have been drinking in small confined places, and because she is young she will likely not display any covid symptoms should she actually have covid, but I have no doubt many of you still risk it anyway.

 

The way out of this is of course is vaccines, but Thailand are too far behind for this to have any impact until next year.   Some of us think there is a more sensible approach to dealing with this over the next year, and Sweden provided a good example of how this could be done.

[bkk6060]

9 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

We are supposed to come Bangkok this month for a hospital appointment 

Yes, me too at the end of the month.  May sadly be reaching 10,000 cases and over 100 deaths by then will have to decide what to do.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

The way out of this is of course is vaccines, but Thailand are too far behind for this to have any impact until next year.   Some of us think there is a more sensible approach to dealing with this over the next year, and Sweden provided a good example of how this could be done.

Sweden had 14,500 covid deaths out of a population of just 10 million, no thanks, Sweden is not such a good example to follow

[wasabi]

I remember being in Covid-free Thailand watching the nightmare in the USA unfold with awe and dismay late last year. Now I'm back in the USA for over a month >> fully vaccinated for free >> no longer required to wear a mask and the tables have decidedly turned. The lack of real measures like mRNA vaccine procurement replaced instead by hygiene theater tactics like QR code scans, sign in sheets and temperature checks has finally caught up with the dimwits running the show in Thailand. A complete change of leadership is needed but unlikely to happen. 

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Some of us care about non-covid deaths as well (e.g https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/28/freelance-musicians-death-raises-public-concerns-over-financial-crisis-in-thailand-during-covid-19-outbreak/).   It's not a case of denying the disease exists, but it's an acknowledgement that simply closing some things down will not solve the problem as too many people in any population will need to continue to go to work and provide services that everyone relies on.     People on here have bought into the line that only alcohol spreads covid, but unless people are drinking at work, just how many alcoholic drinks were consumed by those 6000ish that caught it yesterday?  

 

People on here also want hairdressers and massage parlours open (indoor activities), even though they are closer contact than an outdoor restaurant or outdoor bar, and naively think that masks provide any significant protection whilst engaging in these activities.     I think some on here also naively think that if the bars are closed then the company they order from TF would not have been partying with others, when in fact these girls will have been partying in small unventilated condos.   The girl you "order" will almost certainly have been drinking in small confined places, and because she is young she will likely not display any covid symptoms should she actually have covid, but I have no doubt many of you still risk it anyway.

 

The way out of this is of course is vaccines, but Thailand are too far behind for this to have any impact until next year.   Some of us think there is a more sensible approach to dealing with this over the next year, and Sweden provided a good example of how this could be done.

So, apart from vaccinations, what should the government do to deal with epidemic? Do you have any ideas on how to deal with full hospitals? 

[Blumpie]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ICU beds full at Bangkok’s Siriraj Hospital

 

The head of the respiratory disease and tuberculosis division at Siriraj Hospital says the facility has run out of beds in its intensive care unit. Dr. Nithiphat Chiarakun says at least 5 Covid-19 patients have been left waiting for an ICU bed as healthcare workers try to juggle what’s available.

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/icu-beds-full-at-bangkoks-siriraj-hospital

This is what everyone should be worried about.

ICU beds cannot be made up.  They require specialized nursing staff, equipment, etc.  

Now this is just one hospital so they will start shuffling around.  Until they ar all full.  Then you die.  Simple.  

That is if you need it.  

And if you need surgery, your surgery dates will start to get postponed.  It just goes on.

We've already been down this road.  Just preparing you for what may occur.  

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Some of us care about non-covid deaths as well (e.g https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/28/freelance-musicians-death-raises-public-concerns-over-financial-crisis-in-thailand-during-covid-19-outbreak/).   It's not a case of denying the disease exists, but it's an acknowledgement that simply closing some things down will not solve the problem as too many people in any population will need to continue to go to work and provide services that everyone relies on.     People on here have bought into the line that only alcohol spreads covid, but unless people are drinking at work, just how many alcoholic drinks were consumed by those 6000ish that caught it yesterday?  

 

People on here also want hairdressers and massage parlours open (indoor activities), even though they are closer contact than an outdoor restaurant or outdoor bar, and naively think that masks provide any significant protection whilst engaging in these activities.     I think some on here also naively think that if the bars are closed then the company they order from TF would not have been partying with others, when in fact these girls will have been partying in small unventilated condos.   The girl you "order" will almost certainly have been drinking in small confined places, and because she is young she will likely not display any covid symptoms should she actually have covid, but I have no doubt many of you still risk it anyway.

 

The way out of this is of course is vaccines, but Thailand are too far behind for this to have any impact until next year.   Some of us think there is a more sensible approach to dealing with this over the next year, and Sweden provided a good example of how this could be done.

Closing things does NOT solve the problem but it prevents the health sector from colapsing and then the real problems start. You take sweden but Thailand is far more like India. I mean Sweden has good hospitals and low population density.

 

So to compare those is crazy. Just look at India what happened when the health system could not handle it anymore. That is what is what will happen if bars open.

 

The way out is indeed vaccines and it will take long so all we can do is closing non essential services like bars so the spread is less. You cant stop the spread stuff like markets, and supermarkets have to stay open and IT services too so people can do online learning. Other stuff just has to be closed down.

 

Of course the goverment has to support those people and that is the problem its not enough. But the alternative is total breakdown of the health system. If these numbers keep raising there will be more trouble then we would wish there were only 60 deaths. Now they are already overstretched even if it stays like this there is a chance the health system colapses.

 

 

Have you noticed that the goverment is not saying anymore that they got things under control. I havent seen anutin or Prayut saying anything the last couple of days.

 

Opening Phuket and others is also a disaster waiting to happen.

 

Stay safe. I have just paid for the moderna vaccine from the Thornbury hospital group. No idea when i will be vaccinated. But that is the only thing we can do.

[ikke1959]

In the western world the PM  had to step down if the show so much incompetence. On purpose delaying vaccines, no measures to minimise the impact of the Covid, false and fake promises to keep the people quiet. I am looking forward to the day that the people will chase him out of the office and.............

[mommysboy]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

61 Deaths is a definite concern, a growing number of cases as well indicate that this has no intention of slowing down and unless vaccines are truly rolled out it will have true effects on the economy and tourism prospects.  Beds have filled up and many more are waiting for beds according to the 34 Amarin TV news this morning.  People are also very frustrated.

 

'61 Deaths is a definite concern'

 

The way it's going it could end up in hundreds.

 

Clearly, whatever measures they are taking they are not enough.

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Blumpie said:

This is what everyone should be worried about.

ICU beds cannot be made up.  They require specialized nursing staff, equipment, etc.  

Now this is just one hospital so they will start shuffling around.  Until they ar all full.  Then you die.  Simple.  

That is if you need it.  

And if you need surgery, your surgery dates will start to get postponed.  It just goes on.

We've already been down this road.  Just preparing you for what may occur.  

Yes in my country people died because covid was taking up ICU beds so normal operations had to be postponed. These were not counted as covid deaths. So things can get really bad if the hospitals cant cope.