DavisH Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, robblok said: It is a fact that people are dying with / from covid and not counted as such there was an article in the newspapers confirming that. That is not an opinion that is a fact. A well known doctor in a BKK hospital found 4!! on one day in the morgue. That is just 1 hospital just 1 day. So its fact. So you cant rely on death counts, Also testing is far lower per 1000 in Than in the UK so infection rate is also not comparable. (also a fact) If testing/infection rates/death counts are unreliable....then there really is no need to report on it, qnd certainly no need to have hundreds of postings by expats on the topic. It is what it is. Better to find something more interesting to pass ones time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, sandyf said: I wasn't aware that testing stopped people from dying If you want to believe that people die in Thailand without any notice being taken, entirely up to you, doesn't make it a fact. Stupid comment. Testing (proper mass testing, not what happens here) helps stop the spread of sars-cov-2 hense helps in stopping people from getting infected and dying. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, smedly said: sorry but I fundamentally disagree with that statement - If anything the UK has been over reporting - they definitely have not been under reporting Indeed. The UK does more genetic sequencing of the virus than any other country as well so got stuck with the "UK variant" tag despite there being a very, very high chance it did not originate in the UK. They are still testing over a million a day which means their case numbers look awful in comparison to other countries in Europe who only test a fraction of what the UK do. They are a good case study for the effectiveness of the vaccines though. Despite reaching almost 50,000 positive tests a day currently, the numbers dying per day are tiny in comparison to what it was in January when the case numbers were that high previously (50ish vs 1000ish). Despite high case numbers I'd argue it is a lot safer in the UK now than it is in Thailand and at some point the virus has to run out of people to infect there so the numbers of cases of covid should start reducing soon, probably just in time for winter when episode 5 "the flu strikes back" is released. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Are they referring to SB as AZ for this purpose since the lab is producing AZ or is this from overseas. Just a little confused SB would be likely be producing under license for AZ but would have no real say on the distribution. May well also production issues at the SB plant responsible for delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Very bad news for the Philippines: it has recorded its first domestic transmissions of the delta variant of coronavirus - which is already driving the worst outbreaks yet elsewhere in Southeast Asia https://twitter.com/TostevinM/status/1415872241489821698 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, DavisH said: If testing/infection rates/death counts are unreliable....then there really is no need to report on it, qnd certainly no need to have hundreds of postings by expats on the topic. It is what it is. Better to find something more interesting to pass ones time. what are you doing here 9 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 PR Thai Government A team of researchers in the Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University has developed an innovative test kit with more than 98% accuracy called “#COVID19 Scan.” https://twitter.com/prdthailand/status/1415874462042398723 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtraveler Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 I notice that Thailand is listed as #59 on Worldometer, as far as the worst countries for Covid. But I don't think this fairly represents the situation. Because the figures include the low numbers for the first year, it skews the facts. Looking at current statistics on Worldometer: As far as New Cases are concerned, Thailand is 17th; Active Cases, Thailand is 18th; and in terms of Serious/critical cases, Thailand is 8th. I think these are more fair indicators of the situation. And this accepts the figures are correct. And as to testing per million, Thailand sits in 146th place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: About time, it was completely infested. The community spread in that area must be horrendous And it does not help to have <deleted> lodes of lowlife cigarette smoking local and foreign male infestation in Pattaya 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, sandyf said: I wasn't aware that testing stopped people from dying If you want to believe that people die in Thailand without any notice being taken, entirely up to you, doesn't make it a fact. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, DavisH said: If testing/infection rates/death counts are unreliable....then there really is no need to report on it, qnd certainly no need to have hundreds of postings by expats on the topic. It is what it is. Better to find something more interesting to pass ones time. The door is open. Bye. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, mtraveler said: I notice that Thailand is listed as #59 on Worldometer, as far as the worst countries for Covid. But I don't think this fairly represents the situation. Because the figures include the low numbers for the first year, it skews the facts. Looking at current statistics on Worldometer: As far as New Cases are concerned, Thailand is 17th; Active Cases, Thailand is 18th; and in terms of Serious/critical cases, Thailand is 8th. I think these are more fair indicators of the situation. And this accepts the figures are correct. And as to testing per million, Thailand sits in 146th place. Listed 58 with a bullet.Probably be 55 tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, mtraveler said: I notice that Thailand is listed as #59 on Worldometer, as far as the worst countries for Covid. But I don't think this fairly represents the situation. Because the figures include the low numbers for the first year, it skews the facts. Looking at current statistics on Worldometer: As far as New Cases are concerned, Thailand is 17th; Active Cases, Thailand is 18th; and in terms of Serious/critical cases, Thailand is 8th. I think these are more fair indicators of the situation. And this accepts the figures are correct. And as to testing per million, Thailand sits in 146th place. Your post seems very much like mine. If i was grading a paper i believe I would do you for plagiarism. I predict that within 2 wks Thailand will be in the top 50 on the covid charts. As for new infections Thailand is firmly in the top twenty. As for serious critical Thailand as of yesterday was sitting at number 8. Weekly trend number 14. Tests per million has Thailand at number 146. If Thailand was at 46 and not 146 for tests per million then I think it could be said Thailand would be in the top 20 for total cases. All this in 31/2 months. Yes I know this is simply data taken from worldometer and there are problems with that but it does afford an overall picture of how Thailand is going on the global scene. To sum that up in one word would be, bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, sungod said: I read somewhere yesterday (Pattaya News most likely) that it was closed for 1 day to do a deep clean. Is a deep clean where they spray with disinfectant twice instead of once? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rott Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, DavisH said: If testing/infection rates/death counts are unreliable....then there really is no need to report on it, qnd certainly no need to have hundreds of postings by expats on the topic. It is what it is. Better to find something more interesting to pass ones time. The possibility of a sharply reduced life expectancy does create interest for some reason. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Cipher Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 Man, the biggest issue with these busted case count numbers is that it's impossible to figure out if the current lockdowns are working or not. I just don't understand the gov's strategy to get out of this situation. They won't just open up because they won't accept cases/deaths above a certain level, as evidenced by the current lockdowns. But they haven't ordered good vaccines yet(?), which will take time to arrive even when ordered. So like, what the ƒvck is the actual plan here? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, sandyf said: I wasn't aware that testing stopped people from dying If you want to believe that people die in Thailand without any notice being taken, entirely up to you, doesn't make it a fact. Which possibly means that you need to pay greater attention to the path from spreading infection, to positive cases, to hospitalizations, to death. death can be stopped at anyone of the points on that path. Reduce infection spread, reduce cases, reduce hospitalizations, reduce death. testing is a small but important part of an overall process to reduce deaths. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Good news for French people aged 18+ in #Thailand. According to an announcement by @FRenThailande (https://th.ambafrance.org/Message-de-M-Thierry-Mathou-ambassadeur-de-France-en-Thailande-5278…), you will soon be able to register to be vaccinated with Johnson & Johnson. Next they are trying to get a vaccine for 12+ children. Thank you France https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1415883775427309573 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Cipher said: Man, the biggest issue with these busted case count numbers is that it's impossible to figure out if the current lockdowns are working or not. I just don't understand the gov's strategy to get out of this situation. They won't just open up because they won't accept cases/deaths above a certain level, as evidenced by the current lockdowns. But they haven't ordered good vaccines yet(?), which will take time to arrive even when ordered. So like, what the ƒvck is the actual plan here? Well, that’s the nail on the head right there. How to make decisions on a path forward when using corrupted data? seat of the pants is as good as it gets from here, in fact has been for a while. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Cipher said: Man, the biggest issue with these busted case count numbers is that it's impossible to figure out if the current lockdowns are working or not. I just don't understand the gov's strategy to get out of this situation. They won't just open up because they won't accept cases/deaths above a certain level, as evidenced by the current lockdowns. But they haven't ordered good vaccines yet(?), which will take time to arrive even when ordered. So like, what the ƒvck is the actual plan here? They can't just order vaccines as that would impact their profits and damage the reputation of a certain very important person, as well as be admitting complete failure of this administration's ability in vaccine procurement and COVID-19 policy. When have you ever seen one of them accept responsibility for anything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Cipher said: So like, what the ƒvck is the actual plan here? Nobody knows, after he facilitated the spread from Bangkok to all the provinces when giving 4 days notice of the camp closures, your guess is as good as anybodies 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Thai PM returns to Government House after third negative Covid test The Thai PM, Prayut Chan-o-cha, does not have Covid-19 and returns to work at Government House today. The PM had been self-isolating for 14 days after coming into contact with Veerasak Pisanuwong from the Surin Chamber of Commerce, while visiting Phuket for the island’s sandbox re-opening on July 1. Veerasak subsequently tested positive for the virus. The Bangkok Post reports that, following a third negative test, the PM has decided to return to the workplace. It’s understood that his close aides and security team have also tested negative. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai-pm-returns-to-government-house-after-third-negative-covid-test Edited July 16, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Is a deep clean where they spray with disinfectant twice instead of once? Yes, may involve a polish too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, DavisH said: If testing/infection rates/death counts are unreliable....then there really is no need to report on it, qnd certainly no need to have hundreds of postings by expats on the topic. It is what it is. Better to find something more interesting to pass ones time. So move along and don't grace us with your presence if you do not want to partake in the discussion on Covid we have here. The fact that what is reported is a fraction of reality is what many of us report on and even though what some of us locate may be anecdotal in your view and not important in your view, and there is no need to report on it as you say, you are barking up the wrong tree. Enjoy the other topics..... 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, mtraveler said: I notice that Thailand is listed as #59 on Worldometer, as far as the worst countries for Covid. But I don't think this fairly represents the situation. Because the figures include the low numbers for the first year, it skews the facts. Looking at current statistics on Worldometer: As far as New Cases are concerned, Thailand is 17th; Active Cases, Thailand is 18th; and in terms of Serious/critical cases, Thailand is 8th. I think these are more fair indicators of the situation. And this accepts the figures are correct. And as to testing per million, Thailand sits in 146th place. You can look/ interpret the figures anyway you want. Thailand is currently 160th with 44 deaths per 1 million people. See, better already!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Nobody knows, after he facilitated the spread from Bangkok to all the provinces when giving 4 days notice of the camp closures, your guess is as good as anybodies Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. Khon Kaen Provincial Public Health Office Report on the situation of the epidemic of the Covid-19 virus. in Khon Kaen that ????90 new cases of COVID-19 were found in the following districts: Mueang Khon Kaen 37, (edit) From the above information, it can be seen that there are 37 infected people in Mueang Khon Kaen District. The Khon Kaen Link team has coordinated inquiries with the Khon Kaen Provincial Public Health Office. It was known that the majority of the cases were from construction sites as previously reported. In this number, it consists of all workers and staff at the construction site. https://www.khonkaenlink.info/read/68816/ via Google translate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, anchadian said: NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 530 new cases and three more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (58), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (171), and Si Racha (161). The total cases so far is now 14,056 with 5,465 remaining in care #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1415828779109285888 The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 530 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with three new deaths, July 16th. 530 is a new record high for cases in the province. However, 183 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. This makes a total of 14,056 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 5,465 still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 75 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. The details on yesterday’s deaths were not given, which is standard for the health department. More: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/16/chonburi-reports-another-record-high-with-530-new-cases-of-covid-19-and-three-deaths/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: So move along and don't grace us with your presence if you do not want to partake in the discussion on Covid we have here. The fact that what is reported is a fraction of reality is what many of us report on and even though what some of us locate may be anecdotal in your view and not important in your view, and there is no need to report on it as you say, you are barking up the wrong tree. Enjoy the other topics..... Seems with around a dozen currently browsing... thats the trend.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, anchadian said: The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 530 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with three new deaths, July 16th. 530 is a new record high for cases in the province. However, 183 people were also released and recovered yesterday in Chonburi. This makes a total of 14,056 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 5,465 still under medical care/supervision, and with a total of 75 recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April. The details on yesterday’s deaths were not given, which is standard for the health department. More: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/16/chonburi-reports-another-record-high-with-530-new-cases-of-covid-19-and-three-deaths/ Cant see in the breakdown many Pattaya sites.Where Central? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. Khon Kaen Provincial Public Health Office Report on the situation of the epidemic of the Covid-19 virus. in Khon Kaen that ????90 new cases of COVID-19 were found in the following districts: Mueang Khon Kaen 37, (edit) From the above information, it can be seen that there are 37 infected people in Mueang Khon Kaen District. The Khon Kaen Link team has coordinated inquiries with the Khon Kaen Provincial Public Health Office. It was known that the majority of the cases were from construction sites as previously reported. In this number, it consists of all workers and staff at the construction site. https://www.khonkaenlink.info/read/68816/ via Google translate The construction sites in Bangkok were closed on 27th June, not really sure what the link is trying to verify for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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