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Thailand reports daily record of 16,533 new coronavirus cases


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11 hours ago, Why Me said:

Wrong. It does both. But it's a numbers game. No vaccine is 100% in preventing infection. Which no one claims either. Even if it's 90%, 100 out of 1000 vaccinated will get infected.

 

 

 

Only if everyone of those 1000 vaccinated come into contact with someone with covid, under the circumstances to get infected, my 14 year old son was sat next to a classmate for a whole day who contracted the delta variant but he did not get infected, so many more variables involved.

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 How many times have they instituted  checks and check points while they let thousand of people, Songkran it up, emptied out construction sites with announced lock downs and closures, several days before ! Finally they are letting the soi sick dwellers (poor souls) go home on trains ,to destinations north.

 Now again there are more checks ! In  four weeks time ,those red zones will turn to a flatten curve, by quietly implementing less tests and dispersing the sick all over Thailand ,just to meet their projected goal of a soft opening in October imop

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003868

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3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

A month ago my wife told me the people in her village in Udon weren’t bothered by Covid and were anti vaccine. Now Udon has many cases a day, 100 plus, and cases very near her village, and it seems people are now more fearful of Covid and would take the vaccine if they could get it. That’s generalizing of course, but I find villagers tend to herd together on subjects so it wouldn’t surprise me that if one changes tack, a lot of others might do also.

 

but none will starve. Everyone saves enough rice to last a year until the next years harvest and many don’t have regular jobs anyway so live hand to mouth, Covid or no Covid.

Yes, villagers tend to form common opinions which in this case are in reaction to what they hear on TV.  Blood clots and other bad reactions was the first big news about vaccines. Then doubts about Sinovac.  Now cases in their own village are the latest news which is very effective in combattinng vaccine hesitancy.

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7 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

My wife and just about everyone around here couldn't care less about what covid does or how many die from it because they are all too busy trying to survive and there is nothing they can do to stop it.You could say they could do lockdown but it's rice planting season and if they don't plant the rice they don't eat for a year and that is less important than doing a lockdown.

In a hard lockdown, I'm sure that would be classed as essential work, same as all food production. Believe it or not in the UK during lockdown, construction was considered an essential industry and carried on working. I spent 3-4 months just getting up, going to work and coming home again, no socialising , exercise on my own, food shopping when needed and looking after my daughter every other weekend. It's all about getting the balance right in a lockdown, essential industry keep going and create bubbles of people, work in those bubbles, eat at break times in those bubbles. I'm amazed, unless I have missed it in the publications, that you can still visit other people's condos/villas in Thailand in the dark red zones. Most transmission of virus happens in the work environment and people's homes I believe. Shut the bars, stop people drinking in groups at home but what's to stop them eating together in different homes. Like I said, maybe I've missed something in the rules? If I have, can someone please correct me?

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8 hours ago, anchadian said:

We are already aware of this, so nothing new although I was given to understand that the workers would be re-tested using the RT-PCR method?

 

Do you remember this story from last week about 3,481 workers at a chicken processing plant in Phetchabun testing positive for #COVID19? A number of villagers also tested positive. A cluster that size should have been front page news. But nothing. Why? [1/2]

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1420384123097518092

Days have gone by & the 3,481 workers in Phetchabun haven’t yet been added to the tally. Why? It now seems to be because they were tested, like 1,000’s of others, with Antigen Test Kit. And apparently, as this is not seen as reliable, the results are not added to the statistics.

I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based.

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2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based.

The question is how many folks will be left waiting for help after testing positive and may pass away at home and still not he included in numbers.  This is just a game to this government. Look at all of the vaccine donations now rolling in to the supposed bankrupt Thailand 

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20 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

my conclusions after 15 months of observing and studying the corona situation are two:

 

1. lockdowns do not work, because you cannot lock the whole country forever, lockdowns are

only good for helping the system to gain time and to organise.

 

2. vaccines do work, but not in reducing infections. vaccines are good for preventing hard symptoms.

 

3. thailand should look at mexico and do as mexico did. open all country NOW and accept 20-40 thousands covid deaths a year, until full vaccinations.

otherwise, the death toll from broken ecobomy will be much higher.

Why would you suggest a failed response be copied, rather the numerous more successful ones?

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11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

The question is how many folks will be left waiting for help after testing positive and may pass away at home and still not he included in numbers.  This is just a game to this government. Look at all of the vaccine donations now rolling in to the supposed bankrupt Thailand 

It's a bit like one the beggars my wife knew on the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke who at 5 O'clock each afternoon changes into his good clothes and drove home in his Benz.

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29 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based.

I think it’s a racing certainty that antigen positives won’t be in the official numbers and won’t get a second confirming test.

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6 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

lockdown of a village might be possible,

 

lockdowns of entire cities with millions of people is impossible, hence why it's completely pointless

 

might as well move to Mars, will be easier to isolate yourself

New York, London, Paris, Wuhan, Singapore. All have quite large populations.

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