Alwaysthailand Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 We are in deep do do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, anchadian said: The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) and the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) are now working to open an isolation center for COVID-19 patients at Bang Sue Grand Station’s electric train depot. https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1420309115180503050 16 thousand new cases today and this 240 bed facility gets this kind of triumphant announcement? Someone needs to explain to MOPH that the scale of the problem is on another level to the one for which they seem to be preparing ad hoc solutions. edit: BMA and MOPH. Edited July 28, 2021 by wensiensheng 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 US plans to donate 2.5 million doses of vaccine to Thailand US Senator Tammy Duckworth revealed last night that the US government planned to provide 2.5 million doses of vaccine to Thailand. The Thai-American lawmaker told a webinar on Thai-US relations on 27 July that as part of the Biden Administration’s pledge to provide vaccines to developing countries, Thailand would receive 2.5 million. The seminar was organized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ International Studies Center, East West Center in Washington DC and the Royal Thai Embassy. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/us-plans-to-donate-2-5-million-doses-of-vaccine-to-thailand/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Baiting, bickering posts removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) We are already aware of this, so nothing new although I was given to understand that the workers would be re-tested using the RT-PCR method? Do you remember this story from last week about 3,481 workers at a chicken processing plant in Phetchabun testing positive for #COVID19? A number of villagers also tested positive. A cluster that size should have been front page news. But nothing. Why? [1/2] https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1420384123097518092 Days have gone by & the 3,481 workers in Phetchabun haven’t yet been added to the tally. Why? It now seems to be because they were tested, like 1,000’s of others, with Antigen Test Kit. And apparently, as this is not seen as reliable, the results are not added to the statistics. Edited July 28, 2021 by anchadian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, anchadian said: We are already aware of this, so nothing new although I was given to understand that the workers would be re-tested using the RT-PCR method? Do you remember this story from last week about 3,481 workers at a chicken processing plant in Phetchabun testing positive for #COVID19? A number of villagers also tested positive. A cluster that size should have been front page news. But nothing. Why? [1/2] https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1420384123097518092 Days have gone by & the 3,481 workers in Phetchabun haven’t yet been added to the tally. Why? It now seems to be because they were tested, like 1,000’s of others, with Antigen Test Kit. And apparently, as this is not seen as reliable, the results are not added to the statistics. I think that the antigen test is being seen as a win/win by the government. They can get Covid positive people into isolation, without counting them as a Covid case. I doubt many will get a second confirming test, what is in it for the government to do that? yet another new low, of many 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 Phuket, 24 new local cases to be added tomorrow. https://www.facebook.com/NewshawkPhuket/posts/2957551044494732 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adywhu Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Why Me said: Wrong. It does both. But it's a numbers game. No vaccine is 100% in preventing infection. Which no one claims either. Even if it's 90%, 100 out of 1000 vaccinated will get infected. Only if everyone of those 1000 vaccinated come into contact with someone with covid, under the circumstances to get infected, my 14 year old son was sat next to a classmate for a whole day who contracted the delta variant but he did not get infected, so many more variables involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) How many times have they instituted checks and check points while they let thousand of people, Songkran it up, emptied out construction sites with announced lock downs and closures, several days before ! Finally they are letting the soi sick dwellers (poor souls) go home on trains ,to destinations north. Now again there are more checks ! In four weeks time ,those red zones will turn to a flatten curve, by quietly implementing less tests and dispersing the sick all over Thailand ,just to meet their projected goal of a soft opening in October imop https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003868 Edited July 28, 2021 by riclag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, wensiensheng said: A month ago my wife told me the people in her village in Udon weren’t bothered by Covid and were anti vaccine. Now Udon has many cases a day, 100 plus, and cases very near her village, and it seems people are now more fearful of Covid and would take the vaccine if they could get it. That’s generalizing of course, but I find villagers tend to herd together on subjects so it wouldn’t surprise me that if one changes tack, a lot of others might do also. but none will starve. Everyone saves enough rice to last a year until the next years harvest and many don’t have regular jobs anyway so live hand to mouth, Covid or no Covid. Yes, villagers tend to form common opinions which in this case are in reaction to what they hear on TV. Blood clots and other bad reactions was the first big news about vaccines. Then doubts about Sinovac. Now cases in their own village are the latest news which is very effective in combattinng vaccine hesitancy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HandsomeTallFarang Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 hours ago, ourmanflint said: I wonder how many Thai's go around saying "let's just get on with it and so what if thousands of people die"? The arrogance on display here at times is mind boggling. People come first, not business, and not the economy, Thailand should do all it can to protect and save as many people as it can from serious illness and death, no matter the cost to the economy as a whole. Economies can bounce back, but they cannot bounce back without people. Those clamouring for an end to lockdowns for their own personal benefit are some seriously messed up individuals. A lengthy, extended lockdown like this would be okay and you would be completely right if the Thai Government provided financial aid, and unemployment. But they don’t, because T.I.T. In fact your way would be the correct way if the working class here was compensated, or at the very least, given debt forgiveness or discounts, etc. They are getting almost nothing, there is going to be an indefinite lockdown for the foreseeable future and no government aid in sight. This is a surreal situation right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: My wife and just about everyone around here couldn't care less about what covid does or how many die from it because they are all too busy trying to survive and there is nothing they can do to stop it.You could say they could do lockdown but it's rice planting season and if they don't plant the rice they don't eat for a year and that is less important than doing a lockdown. In a hard lockdown, I'm sure that would be classed as essential work, same as all food production. Believe it or not in the UK during lockdown, construction was considered an essential industry and carried on working. I spent 3-4 months just getting up, going to work and coming home again, no socialising , exercise on my own, food shopping when needed and looking after my daughter every other weekend. It's all about getting the balance right in a lockdown, essential industry keep going and create bubbles of people, work in those bubbles, eat at break times in those bubbles. I'm amazed, unless I have missed it in the publications, that you can still visit other people's condos/villas in Thailand in the dark red zones. Most transmission of virus happens in the work environment and people's homes I believe. Shut the bars, stop people drinking in groups at home but what's to stop them eating together in different homes. Like I said, maybe I've missed something in the rules? If I have, can someone please correct me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPapillon Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 lockdown of a village might be possible, lockdowns of entire cities with millions of people is impossible, hence why it's completely pointless might as well move to Mars, will be easier to isolate yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 hours ago, wensiensheng said: Indeed, the UK cases have dropped for 6 days. Is it possible that their relatively high vaccination rate is helping them? I think that is highly likely, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 A trolling and conspiracy theory post with coronavirus vaccine misinformation has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 hours ago, anchadian said: We are already aware of this, so nothing new although I was given to understand that the workers would be re-tested using the RT-PCR method? Do you remember this story from last week about 3,481 workers at a chicken processing plant in Phetchabun testing positive for #COVID19? A number of villagers also tested positive. A cluster that size should have been front page news. But nothing. Why? [1/2] https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1420384123097518092 Days have gone by & the 3,481 workers in Phetchabun haven’t yet been added to the tally. Why? It now seems to be because they were tested, like 1,000’s of others, with Antigen Test Kit. And apparently, as this is not seen as reliable, the results are not added to the statistics. I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based. The question is how many folks will be left waiting for help after testing positive and may pass away at home and still not he included in numbers. This is just a game to this government. Look at all of the vaccine donations now rolling in to the supposed bankrupt Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 20 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: my conclusions after 15 months of observing and studying the corona situation are two: 1. lockdowns do not work, because you cannot lock the whole country forever, lockdowns are only good for helping the system to gain time and to organise. 2. vaccines do work, but not in reducing infections. vaccines are good for preventing hard symptoms. 3. thailand should look at mexico and do as mexico did. open all country NOW and accept 20-40 thousands covid deaths a year, until full vaccinations. otherwise, the death toll from broken ecobomy will be much higher. Why would you suggest a failed response be copied, rather the numerous more successful ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyIdea Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Good Morning guys. Don't you ever sleep in this thread? ???? Thank you very much for all the hard and serious work you put in Edited July 28, 2021 by MikeyIdea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: The question is how many folks will be left waiting for help after testing positive and may pass away at home and still not he included in numbers. This is just a game to this government. Look at all of the vaccine donations now rolling in to the supposed bankrupt Thailand It's a bit like one the beggars my wife knew on the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke who at 5 O'clock each afternoon changes into his good clothes and drove home in his Benz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Neeranam said: I think that is highly likely, don't you? I do, that is why I said it, don’t you think? Edited July 28, 2021 by wensiensheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: I wouldn't be surprised if these Antigen Test Kits are not one of the restrictions to reduce reported numbers.Testing using these test kits can be increased so that the official reported numbers can be controlled, it's just more of the smoke and mirrors on which this so called government is based. I think it’s a racing certainty that antigen positives won’t be in the official numbers and won’t get a second confirming test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, GrandPapillon said: lockdown of a village might be possible, lockdowns of entire cities with millions of people is impossible, hence why it's completely pointless might as well move to Mars, will be easier to isolate yourself New York, London, Paris, Wuhan, Singapore. All have quite large populations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Thailand reports record high of 17,669 new COVID-19 cases and 165 deaths Thailand on Thursday (July 29) reported 17,669 new COVID-19 cases and 165 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1225721-thailand-reports-record-high-of-17669-new-covid-19-cases-and-165-deaths/ //CLOSED// /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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