a3tsw Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, HAPPYNUFF said: Strangely enough, when I last did my visa extensionl, and the usual annual fee was 1900 baht, the officer attending to me asked for me to pay that amount per phone banking to his bank account. As I dont use phone banking I declined and offered the cash as usual..He was most upset. I thought it strange, paying into his account,,,he stated it was his personal account,,, as I thought that would be a simple way to get caught, given phone and bank records are kept. A lot of people on here would consider this to be an example of corruption , but in Thailand , not so , they have a word for this type of situation... and that word is ..... ... misunderstanding.???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Gandtee said: And how do they show confirmation of funds being the bank for three and then twelve months? And all Bank Managers are honest people ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, webfact said: The force has asked for seven days to get to the truth saying that no stone will be left unturned in that endeavor 7 days to think up an excuse, there is good money to be made for the person who writes a good excuse book to be kept next to RTP Sop's... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: Which is usually the same place as the RTP investigation. Thought that as well, tagged on the end as if the NACC investigations are somehow better, if anything they are even slower, even less effective and never ever ever seemingly come to an end. And in all probability they are as crooked as the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I was going to comment but didn’t want to get labeled a Troller ... which I thought was a method of fishing .... Snook... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Phakhayos then went on to say what a wonderful job his men had dei worker trafficking gangs in the last year. This has ringtones of a recent case of luxury vehicles seized and drug offenders interrogated to save the children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, cnx101 said: That’s the problem on here people got nothing better to do than worry about what other people do and don’t do instead of worrying about their own business. I don't have an issue with what people do, up to them, the thread topic is about corruption, I simply brought up one of the biggest that has been ongoing for years 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Another "inactive post" beckons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richards Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Icing on the cake you should try Loei immigration... Its notoriously bad. No words they just slip you the empty envelope with coffee written on it in big letters if you want a smooth visa transaction. Dispicable treatment every year! Thank god I can do the 90 day in the post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leiftheswede Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, petermik said: This comment sums it up in a nutshell No surprise there - corruption seems to be well protected by officials in spite of big words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUARNETTE Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 So, if it’s for “gang members,” it’s not acceptable, but if it is for the shaking down of the routine Foreigner here to be with their family…. It’s still ok? I’m just asking so I know the routine when I pay “the guy” another 30,000thb to process my next extension, will be the same or not. I don’t want to have to wait another 8 hours a day in the immigration pool to learn the new process. Thanks for any guidance in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robsamui Posted September 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 hours ago, samtam said: I am one of those who did my visa extensions for 12 years in person at Chaengwattana. The last 3 years of the 12 were such a pain, taking me about 7 hours or more door to door, for an extension plus re-entry permit. This, on top of going to pick up the bank letter from my branch the day before. After these increasingly irksome experiences I thought the services of a good agent, particularly during covid, (the first time was last year, the second this year), were an investment I was prepared to make. The service also takes care of my 90 day report, (either online if it works, or in person, if it doesn't, as with the last one). My visits to CW are now reduced to about 20 minutes face time with the IO. Like so many things in Thailand, it is often better to have a gofer; I use different ones for picking up undelivered parcels from the post office/customs, getting me items for household maintenance, a personal shopper for groceries and mall items, and a tame motocy for pick up and delivery of various items. Some of these have become essential during Covid, and my desire to isolate as much as possible, until I get my second vax. When in Rome... I used to think that all this ridiculous and excessively bureaucratic paperwork visa-wise was the side effect of a little undeveloped nation desperately trying to make itself look important. Then, a few years later, I got to thinking no - that's not it - it's a cunning plan to get lotsa brown envelopes by making the whole visa business so long-winded and unbearable. Now I've come to realise that, actually, it's both. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 If they are going to investigate civil servants asking for a bribe, they have their work cut out for them for many years to come. But you have to start somewhere, so good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Gandtee said: And how do they show confirmation of funds being the bank for three and then twelve months? I think that is the point he is trying to make, going through a so call agent you don't need to show funds! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: Audio clips, CCTV clips. Those are the real problems they'll Address at the committee... CCTV did nothing for the Burmese 2, not only was facial recognition technology used by overseas investigators that said this person running from the scene was not a B2, nothing ever came of it, they said it looked more like the boy discovered in BK with a new haircut. Ferrari Joe will plead self defense for trying to enforce protective face mask rules for infection by masking with plastic. He was only trying to protect his fellow officers and the public from Delta spreading. He was probably hissing and spitting, would not listen and was warned several times before the face mask was applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JUARNETTE said: So, if it’s for “gang members,” it’s not acceptable, but if it is for the shaking down of the routine Foreigner here to be with their family…. It’s still ok? I’m just asking so I know the routine when I pay “the guy” another 30,000thb to process my next extension, will be the same or not. I don’t want to have to wait another 8 hours a day in the immigration pool to learn the new process. Thanks for any guidance in advance. So.... as i did last week August my number 9 ret.ext. in person you let me understand i made 9 x 30 000 baht =270 000 baht profit minus 9x 1900 baht , a 252000 baht profit , i would call that a nice figure to keep pocketed ???? (minus bank fee as i forgot for bank letter ) THX Newbie to remind me that ???????? Edited September 2, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Posted 13 minutes ago 7 hours ago, KannikaP said: Do not generalise please. Walked into mine last week to do 90 day report...I was the only person there, in/out in less than 5 minutes. 22 minutes ago, KannikaP said: How this statement can confuse 5 members confuses me! lol Erm . . . . because the comment you are 'replying' to is about seeing huge piles of passports in immigration offices from agents, and the bribery going on. You have stated three things in your reply, none of which are even remotely connected with 'bribery and corruption':- 1. You went to do a 90-day report (not to get an under-the-table visa extension) 2. You were the only person there (totally irrelevant) 3. You were in and out in less than five minutes (utterly and totally irrelevant) ???? Has that helped to ease your total bewilderment at all? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted September 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, fangless said: 9 hours ago, smedly said: see the piles of foreign passports brought in there by agents from people getting 12 month extensions who don't meet the banking requirements and are paying bribes to bypass the rules You have no way of knowing which of those passports is there from an agent who is doing a legitimate job or is bribing/breaking the rules. Not all agency applications are fake. Yes he does, it's a special ability so many Thaivisa posters have! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, RafPinto said: Immigration chief "Fortuner Bill" denied any wrongdoing. He was given his nickname for his love of high end Toyota Fortuner. Fortuner? You've got a strange idea of what a high end car is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 They dare not punish anyone for what they see is a minor problem allowing themselves to be caught on camera. Closing ranks is normal here, as if just one is seriously held to account for Corruption and severely punished they will sing like an injured bird and bring the whole institution down and that can't be allowed to happen. Much easier to move someone to a smaller sleepy Village somewhere on the Border for a few months and be away from the mainstream 'goodies' whilst keeping his Salary and Pension rights intact. They see this as adequate 'punishment' in such cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Just now, trainman34014 said: They dare not punish anyone for what they see is a minor problem allowing themselves to be caught on camera. Closing ranks is normal here, as if just one is seriously held to account for Corruption and severely punished they will sing like an injured bird and bring the whole institution down and that can't be allowed to happen. Much easier to move someone to a smaller sleepy Village somewhere on the Border for a few months and be away from the mainstream 'goodies' whilst keeping his Salary and Pension rights intact. They see this as adequate 'punishment' in such cases. Of course keeping them away from the " agents cut " ...., is indeed for those a punishment ....???? Edited September 2, 2021 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtam Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, mitos said: eVisa online services it's the only one solutions to bribery, corruption, scam, and (so called) covid. Yes, there are many fine examples of high quality IT systems in place in the wonderful world of Thai bureaucracy???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 hours ago, crazykopite said: If they issued receipts for monies paid that would be a starter there is no accounting method 500 baht for a letter confirming address no receipt 300 baht for photo copying no receipt over stays no receipt the whole system stinks of corruption. I even had a friend who was taken to the ferry boat by a certain immigration officer (now retired) via the atm and ended up paying the officer 10,000 so he could get his passport back and this was all done in front of my friends Thai wife he told me on the ferry that the IO was demanding 20,000 I’d helped him with all his documents they were all 100% correct but my friend was a 70 year old vulnerable man .the same guy once tried to charge me 4,000 baht for a years 1,900 extension of stay but I told him very politely where to go I use Kamphaeng Phet Immigration which is a small office but quite farang friendly, very helpful and I always get a receipt for any monies paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The amazing thing is that they manage to keep a straight face throughout a press conference such as this (even before masks), but pick up their share on their way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny49r Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, ChipButty said: If you lived here 20 years ago that was normal It's still normal and isn't likely to change anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, smedly said: out of all the people I know that live here only two of them get their extensions without going through an agent and of those none of them have the funds in the bank and pay on average 15k for a 12 month extension - fact Can you give me their agents info , 15k sounds like a bargain ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Just the tip. I love the p***ed off looks on the people behind the counter. There goes that revenue stream!. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) But my passport always has a 1000 baht note inside of it behind a paperclip and behind my 90 day. Never once has it been taken....they must like me. Edited September 2, 2021 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I guess we’ll have to WATCH and see what happens. TIME will tell if there’s any extortion, corruption or bribing going on. In GENERAL I’m sure there are a lot of lowlifes in third world governments not like the fine gentlemen in government here some of whom even have stellar military backgrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I have paid bribes to immigration officers before for a visa extension. haven't most of us let them continue works for a lot of people who don't meet the criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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