coming back to Thailand in october 2021

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

hi and thanks for helping !

lived in Thailand the past 15 years on retirement visas.

went to germany in may, want to come back in october.

found out now that i forgot to obtain a multible entry stamp. ( so i cant use my till december valid visa anymore. / also my current passport is valid less then 18 month)

my question:

" how to get back to Thailand in october with a brandnew unstamped passport in order

to obtain a new retirement visa, when inside the country?"

 

i still have 800k on my bankaccount.

i still have my rental agreement for my aptm in Hua Hin.

i still have my expat healthinsurance covering covid 19.

i still have a flight back to Bangkok in october. ( but only the flight back to Thailand)

 

thank for taking your time to help me out ! i appriciate!

 

ps: is coming in on visa exemption and converting to non o retirement through an visa agent  a good option? ( will i need to buy a new flight / coming + going for that?)

 

Wolfgang

[DrJack54]

41 minutes ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

ps: is coming in on visa exemption and converting to non o retirement through an visa agent  a good option? ( will i need to buy a new flight / coming + going for that?)

IMO this is your best option. However you do not need an agent.

You can obtain the non O at immigration.

You need 800k in bank on the day you apply.

That gives you 90 day stamp. In last 30 days obtain 12 month extension. Money having been in bank 2 months minimum.

 

You can read up about the COE, insurance etc.

 

You will need an onward flight. This is not for your COE or immigration when you arrive. It's for the airline for boarding.

 

You can buy cheapest onward flight and throw it or you can buy "rent a flight" from internet companies. Cheap.

Very simple process for your extension.

 

Of course you can use visa agent to assist with organization. You do not need one to cover your financials as you have them in place.

It's a simple process that you can do yourself 

 

BTW Obtain full vaccination while in Germany.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by DrJack54

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

2 hours ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

ps: is coming in on visa exemption and converting to non o retirement through an visa agent  a good option? ( will i need to buy a new flight / coming + going for that?)

IMO this is your best option. However you do not need an agent.

You can obtain the non O at immigration.

You need 800k in bank on the day you apply.

That gives you 90 day stamp. In last 30 days obtain 12 month extension. Money having been in bank 2 months minimum.

 

You can read up about the COE, insurance etc.

thank you, thank you, thank you  Dr.Jack54

i think, i will go for that option.

the COE i will obtain soon and i will probably by a new return flight as well.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

BTW Obtain full vaccination while in Germany.

thank you for that. i am fully vaccinated already (Moderna). It was one of the reasons,  i went back to germany in may.

 

thanks again Dr.Jack.

 

ps: now i need to figure out how get to Hua Hin without having to quarantine...

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

i will obtain soon and i will probably by a new return flight as well

If you buy a return ticket it best to have one where you can change dates. If return was within 45 days on flight to Thailand then that would serve as your onward flight if requested by airline.

 

Currently there is 14 night quarantine at ASQ for staying Bangkok. This is expected to be reduced in the future.

I realize you mentioned coming to Thailand October. The later the better as restrictions may ease in future regards quarantine etc. Personally I have no idea.

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

35 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

If you buy a return ticket it best to have one where you can change dates. If return was within 45 days on flight to Thailand then that would serve as your onward flight if requested by airline

yes, thanks. the return date should be within 45 (not 30?) days after entry, to match the airline requirements. (and when in Thailand change return to a desired (much later) date. thank you !

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

38 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Currently there is 14 night quarantine at ASQ for staying Bangkok. This is expected to be reduced in the future.

yes, i still wonder and watch whats coming up next.

Read that Hua Hin (the place i live) is opening up in october without mandatory quarantine...but it is all unclear till today.

 

thank you Dr.Jack!

[sammieuk1]

Get your new passport apply for a new 90 day visa in your country job done is what I did????

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

9 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Get your new passport apply for a new 90 day visa in your country job done is what I did????

thank you Sammieuk1. which visa did you get and can you convert to retirement ?

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

thank you Sammieuk1. which visa did you get and can you convert to retirement ?

A non o retirement. You will be stamped into Thailand for 90 days. In last 30 apply for annual extension. 

It's an option

[Johnny Mac]

I assume you have family here, otherwise there is absolutely ZERO reason to come back here.

[KhaoYai]

26 minutes ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

Read that Hua Hin (the place i live) is opening up in october without mandatory quarantine...but it is all unclear till today.

Wait for the announcment before you book the tickets.  There is likely to be some kind of restriction as to who you can book with as there is with Samui. Not sure exactly how will work with Hua Hin - the airport is listed as 'International' but I've no idea if it can accept the large aircraft used on long haul flights - I suspect the flights will be via Bangkok and operate in the same way as the Samui flights. Its likely that as with Samui, they will be 'sealed flights' so I guess some airlines will be partnering and you will be chaperoned to the Hua Hin flight when you arrive in Bangkok. 

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

A non o retirement. You will be stamped into Thailand for 90 days. In last 30 apply for annual extension. 

It's an option

thank you !

if that is an easy to do option, i would do that.

have to check requirements for obtaining a non o in germany.

i have to check with the embassy in Berlin on what they are asking for...

thank you again, Wolfgang

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

1 hour ago, Johnny Mac said:

I assume you have family here, otherwise there is absolutely ZERO reason to come back here.

no family in Thailand, not even a " girlfriend".

i like to be in Thailand and i definetly dont like european summers.

[shdmn]

Just FYI, there are websites where you can purchase throwaway onward tickets for just this purpose.  It's all legit as far as I can tell.  I know people who have done this.

 

https://bookonwardticket.com/
https://onwardticket.com/
https://bestonwardticket.com/
https://aironwardticket.com/
https://onewayfly.com/

 

You can also book last minute from popular websites like Expedia and Orbitz that have free cancellation within 24 hours.  Some airlines also have free cancellation within 24 hours if that gives you enough time.

Edited September 6, 2021 by shdmn

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

13 minutes ago, Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens said:

no family in Thailand, not even a " girlfriend".

i like to be in Thailand and i definetly dont like european summers.

winters, i meant of cause...

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Wait for the announcment before you book the tickets.  There is likely to be some kind of restriction as to who you can book with as there is with Samui. Not sure exactly how will work with Hua Hin - the airport is listed as 'International' but I've no idea if it can accept the large aircraft used on long haul flights - I suspect the flights will be via Bangkok and operate in the same way as the Samui flights. Its likely that as with Samui, they will be 'sealed flights' so I guess some airlines will be partnering and you will be chaperoned to the Hua Hin flight when you arrive in Bangkok. 

Much more likely, transfer to Hua Hin will be by dedicated cars or buses, as with Pattaya.

[Wolfgang Matthias Ahrens]

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

ust FYI, there are websites where you can purchase throwaway onward tickets for just this purpose.  It's all legit as far as I can tell.  I know people who have done this.

 

https://bookonwardticket.com/
https://onwardticket.com/
https://bestonwardticket.com/
https://aironwardticket.com/
https://onewayfly.com/

 

thank you very much shdmn !

[KhaoYai]

3 hours ago, BritTim said:

Much more likely, transfer to Hua Hin will be by dedicated cars or buses, as with Pattaya.

I hope so, that may make it much more do-able and allow greater choice on flights.