Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 Look at it another way. Last time I had friends (married couple) visit from Oz and we're in Bangkok for a few days (pre covid) I wanted to take care of them. Not in any special order. This is couple of things we did. 1. I took them to Saxaphone Bar (victory monument). Always great for some Jazz or Excellent Blues. Currently Shut and unavailable. 2. I took them to Ratchada Night Train market. Fabulous joint food, stalls, music and bars. Most Bangkok folk would be very familiar. Currently Shut and possibly for good. Talk of large condo complex being built. 3. Took them to Stumble inn, open air bar Soi 4. Great atmosphere and street food vibe. That Soi is currently a ghost town. Even last Xmas pre this current wave and bars had limited opening it was a ghost town. Hillary bar and others closed even when alcohol was allowed. I went to Pattaya for last year fireworks. Bars semi open. Not much music. Stayed Beach Rd Soi 7 and 8 area. DEAD. Many big hotels closed/done. Very sad really. We spend 6 months a year Koh Samet. I guess if you want to sit on a beech for couple of weeks that place is an option. If your a tourist don't even think of Thailand right now! 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houstoniron Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, bang saen guy said: No quarantine should mean that tourist movements are unrestricted from day 1. The lockdown on site for 7 days followed by travel on "sealed routes" for 7 days is quarantine and not acceptable. No one will come other than to re-unite with family I just returned to Thailand from the USA and am in a quarantine hotel, I am now on day 4. I am in a very good hotel. I have a good android box and books. I am going stir crazy. I just cannot image why any person or family would come to Thailand and go through even a shortened quarantine. Sure a small number will come but not enough for the country to recover. The only way to get tourists back in the numbers needed for a meaningful and sustainable recovery is to eliminate this quarantine on arrival and greatly simplify the mounds of paper that is required today. A desire for tourists to return does not in itself mean that they will come. 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post haga Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 They can do it even today . Simply order medic companies to produce ivermectin and give it to the people. haha im not a horse anyway. 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Look at it another way. Last time I had friends (married couple) visit from Oz and we're in Bangkok for a few days (pre covid) I wanted to take care of them. Not in any special order. This is couple of things we did. 1. I took them to Saxaphone Bar (victory monument). Always great for some Jazz or Excellent Blues. Currently Shut and unavailable. 2. I took them to Ratchada Night Train market. Fabulous joint food, stalls, music and bars. Most Bangkok folk would be very familiar. Currently Shut and possibly for good. Talk of large condo complex being built. 3. Took them to Stumble inn, open air bar Soi 4. Great atmosphere and street food vibe. That Soi is currently a ghost town. Even last Xmas pre this current wave and bars had limited opening it was a ghost town. Hillary bar and others closed even when alcohol was allowed. I went to Pattaya for last year fireworks. Bars semi open. Not much music. Stayed Beach Rd Soi 7 and 8 area. DEAD. Many big hotels closed/done. Very sad really. We spend 6 months a year Koh Samet. I guess if you want to sit on a beech for couple of weeks that place is an option. If your a tourist don't even think of Thailand right now! Demand and supply ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 '...commit to a series of tests...'. Doomed to fail until they get rid of everything except proof of being fully vaccinated. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstoniron Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, cclub75 said: Sure ! "Hua Hin Today: Only people who have been fully vaccinated or have a negative COVID-19 test result will be allowed to dine in at restaurants in Hua Hin from 1st October" Source : https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/vaccine-proof-needed-to-dine-in-hua-hin-restaurants-from-oct-1/ Stop the non sense. Scrap all Covid so called "restrictions". Open up the country. Further, expats that were vaccinated outside Thailand cannot get at present this Certificate of Vaccination. Therefore without a COV supposedly they cannot go into restaurants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maechanman Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, smedly said: you having a laugh I wander around central Pattaya daily and see plenty of 7-11s and Family Marts open, granted there's quite a few that have closed but there was that many to begin with that it's not so difficult to find the one's that remain open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I was going to say, 'You couldn't make it up', but there's always one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukovar77 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Will B Good said: And these tourists are all then prepared to quarantine back in their own countries because Thailand is red listed??????? Only few countries is red listed now.It can change soon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukovar77 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, vukovar77 said: Only few countries is red listed now.It can change soon as well. Only few countries is red listed Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, sezze said: Demand and supply ... Not sure I follow. If your suggesting that the number of tourists that are likely to come to Thailand in next few months are enough to open things up and create a nice atmosphere at various places then I doubt it. Step 1 would have been to open up restaurants bars and music venues to the folk that live here. In my area central Bangkok the corner restaurant/bar that is quite large is 99.90% Thai. I'm the only farang. You need to get the place open to the locals. Thai folk that actually live here before worry about few tourists. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubism001 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 But the city I left in the US IS doing all this unrestricted stuff. Football games, parties, restaurants and bars open...with the risk dial at high & 150 cases a day (just in that town the size of Ch M). This makes me wonder if CM will also play along to boost the economy. What do you think? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, cubism001 said: This makes me wonder if CM will also play along to boost the economy. What do you think? Thanks OK...one example. One of best music bars in CM is European bar. Great bans. It's closed done. Owner tells me problematic future. Yep come all the way from USA and look at the wall. Pic of Mike Euro bar CM. Those days a long way off! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 The article doesn't say anything that most of us already know? HOPE! ???? O.K. I will get my pom pom out and celebrate this news!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sezze Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Not sure I follow. If your suggesting that the number of tourists that are likely to come to Thailand in next few months are enough to open things up and create a nice atmosphere at various places then I doubt it. Step 1 would have been to open up restaurants bars and music venues to the folk that live here. In my area central Bangkok the corner restaurant/bar that is quite large is 99.90% Thai. I'm the only farang. You need to get the place open to the locals. Thai folk that actually live here before worry about few tourists. Business open and close all the time . You are thinking right now . Yes right now the situation is difficult , as we seen in many places around the world . Many places had bar/restaurant/music venues closures for many months . It will open again , and if some will will no longer open , then that will be the case . As soon as demand is there , for tourists and for locals , then more business will open . It might be a different spot , different name , but as long as the demand is there , there will be business opening . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, smedly said: There is nothing open in Pattaya - 90% of the city is shuttered and closed it is even difficult to find a 7/11 open Plus there still remains a curfew in place from 9pm madness And the floods washing away homes and Jomtien Beach road and the packs of wild dogs and derelicts starving on the pavement. Very picturesque. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, maechanman said: I wander around central Pattaya daily and see plenty of 7-11s and Family Marts open, granted there's quite a few that have closed but there was that many to begin with that it's not so difficult to find the one's that remain open. Not really about 7/11,s is it. Sounds like your a Pattaya guy. So I'm just out of quarantine and being a friend of yours ....what's the day/night plan look like. Hope we ain't going to central plaza, didn't come to Thailand for shopping mall. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 "commit to a series of tests" forget it DOA. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thujone Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, thailand49 said: The article doesn't say anything that most of us already know? HOPE! ???? O.K. I will get my pom pom out and celebrate this news!???? A polite request. Don't post any pics of you getting your pom pom out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk_bwana Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, henry213 said: There is no way ever i will let them RAM an earbud up my nose 3 times, I'm sure most feel this way too. Man up. It's no big deal and over in about 5 seconds. I've had many tests. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetryxx Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, cclub75 said: Sure ! "Hua Hin Today: Only people who have been fully vaccinated or have a negative COVID-19 test result will be allowed to dine in at restaurants in Hua Hin from 1st October" Source : https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/vaccine-proof-needed-to-dine-in-hua-hin-restaurants-from-oct-1/ Stop the non sense. Scrap all Covid so called "restrictions". Open up the country. Amen, we just have to learn to live with this virus and get on with life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, sezze said: Business open and close all the time . You are thinking right now . Yes right now the situation is difficult , as we seen in many places around the world . Many places had bar/restaurant/music venues closures for many months . It will open again , and if some will will no longer open , then that will be the case . As soon as demand is there , for tourists and for locals , then more business will open . It might be a different spot , different name , but as long as the demand is there , there will be business opening . Really sounds to me that you don't live in Thailand. If you do, you don't get out much. Simple question. One example. Do you enjoy the Bang Saen Speed Festival? When is the next one likely. For many businesses and attractions it's not a matter of lifting the roller door and putting out "open" sign. As I mentioned in earlier Ratchada Night Train Market is an institution. Google it. It has closed and according to many reports will never open again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: a programme in which fully vaccinated visitors who commit to a series of tests can enter, under certain criteria Ah thank You...Clear as mud....as usual Edited September 10, 2021 by meechai 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, houstoniron said: I just returned to Thailand from the USA and am in a quarantine hotel, I am now on day 4. I am in a very good hotel. I have a good android box and books. I am going stir crazy. I just cannot image why any person or family would come to Thailand and go through even a shortened quarantine. Sure a small number will come but not enough for the country to recover. The only way to get tourists back in the numbers needed for a meaningful and sustainable recovery is to eliminate this quarantine on arrival and greatly simplify the mounds of paper that is required today. A desire for tourists to return does not in itself mean that they will come. Why not do the Phuket Sandbox instead? That is my plan for October. After 14 days, I will go to Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Still no mention of what this “criteria” is. People need to make plans! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 10 hours ago, shdmn said: Another compelling argument, backed by even more hard data. I feel so owned. Your compelling argument is backed by as much hard data as his so how did that saying go ?? Calling the kettle ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, houstoniron said: I just returned to Thailand from the USA and am in a quarantine hotel, I am now on day 4. I am in a very good hotel. I have a good android box and books. I am going stir crazy. I just cannot image why any person or family would come to Thailand and go through even a shortened quarantine. Sure a small number will come but not enough for the country to recover. The only way to get tourists back in the numbers needed for a meaningful and sustainable recovery is to eliminate this quarantine on arrival and greatly simplify the mounds of paper that is required today. A desire for tourists to return does not in itself mean that they will come. Thanks for report. This is not a wind up question. Am interested. I can understand the folk with ties here coming such as family etc. I assume your in that group. If just here for holiday....what do you hope/expect to do while in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xonax Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 Stop requiring fully vaccinated persons to get tested again and again. This is just another ridiculous way to extort the tourists. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, hioctane said: Why not do the Phuket Sandbox instead? That is my plan for October. After 14 days, I will go to Pattaya. And what's on the agenda at both those locations? Walks and .......? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Really sounds to me that you don't live in Thailand. If you do, you don't get out much. Simple question. One example. Do you enjoy the Bang Saen Speed Festival? When is the next one likely. For many businesses and attractions it's not a matter of lifting the roller door and putting out "open" sign. As I mentioned in earlier Ratchada Night Train Market is an institution. Google it. It has closed and according to many reports will never open again. I do not live there , but i do know what you mean . Yes the Train market will be gone for good , like many other places . Many things will return , some will be gone for good but will be replaced by others , until the old version just would be only a memory . Covid did speed up a lot of things , but the rule in general stays . Do not be a doom and gloom person . Business come and go , as long as the demand is there that's what always been happening all around the world . Some things will remain in people's memories as they liked it and it is gone for good , but that is always the case . I also remember many things from 1st times in Thailand , things which are gone and do not come back , but it's called change , some for the good , some for the bad . Some business will open tomorrow when possible , others will take longer but will open also as soon as possible ( places which do require more planning ahead ) . 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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