What you can and cannot legally do with Kratom, Thai Justice Minister explains

[snoop1130]

 

Kratom leaves can be freely planted, used, possessed, sold, boiled raw (not mixed with any other ingredient) for drinks, and distributed but cooking as part of food and making herbal juice or drink concoctions for sale is still illegal, Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin clarified yesterday, September 9th.

 

Kratom was recently legalized in Thailand, notes TPN media, but that doesn’t mean one will see legal Kratom restaurants or cafes anytime in the immediate future.

 

“Leaf-chewing, cultivating, possessing, and selling of uncooked fresh leaves is not illegal. But, if the leaves are used for making herbal products that help relieve various symptoms one must apply for permission under the Medicinal Products Act of the Ministry of Public Health. Additionally, selling products with kratom that involve cooking, mixing, blending, shakes or similar processes are illegal.” he stressed.

 

Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/10/what-you-can-and-cannot-legally-do-with-kratom-thai-justice-minister-explains/

 

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[johng]

16 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

selling products with kratom that involve cooking, mixing, blending, shakes or similar processes are illegal.” he stressed

Ah  well the  enterprising young woman doing a roaring trade selling kratom smoothies and battered leaves in her restaurant  on the news the other day will be quite miffed about that !

[KannikaP]

Has anyone tried planting a krathom leaf?

[toofarnorth]

23 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Has anyone tried planting a krathom leaf?

Where ?  And is it legal ?

[KannikaP]

5 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

Where ?  And is it legal ?

From the OP

Kratom leaves can be freely planted.........

 

I went on Gardeners' Questiontime and asked Alan Titmarsh, who told me you need a SEED to grow anything from!

[Will B Good]

So it is basically for personal use, although anyone can grow it and sell it as leaves.

[thaitom]

38 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

From the OP

Kratom leaves can be freely planted.........

 

I went on Gardeners' Questiontime and asked Alan Titmarsh, who told me you need a SEED to grow anything from!

Not necessarily, you can take cuttings and grow them.  I tried planting my seed many times , it worked only once, she's 6 now

[cyril sneer]

I see Shopee has started selling it

 

https://shopee.co.th/product/66587440/13001599778?smtt=0.293379670-1631280032.9
 

Not sure how much is needed to feel anything.. 

[IvorBiggun2]

350 Baht for 15 cm sapling online. So my wife tells me.

 

“THE BEST TIME TO PLANT A TREE WAS 20 YEARS AGO. THE SECOND BEST TIME IS NOW.” – CHINESE PROVERB

[Destiny1990]

Anyone here ever taken the stuff? What are the effects? 

[Damrongsak]

3 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Anyone here ever taken the stuff? What are the effects? 

Probably not worse than huffing Freon, which is a real trip.  Or was 45 years ago... 

[IvorBiggun2]

10 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Anyone here ever taken the stuff? What are the effects? 

Up til now 3 times. I felt nothing. First time I had it as a tea. Second 2 times I chewed it. It's very bitter to chew but not enough to put me off.

[Dionigi]

13 hours ago, KannikaP said:

From the OP

Kratom leaves can be freely planted.........

 

I went on Gardeners' Questiontime and asked Alan Titmarsh, who told me you need a SEED to grow anything from!

Alan titmarsh is obviously an idiot, next time ask Alan Titchmarsh the gardener who will explain air rooting to you and other methods of propagation.

[khunjeff]

14 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

I see Shopee has started selling it

 

https://shopee.co.th/product/66587440/13001599778?smtt=0.293379670-1631280032.9
 

Not sure how much is needed to feel anything.. 

That listing is just for seeds.

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, Dionigi said:

Alan titmarsh is obviously an idiot, next time ask Alan Titchmarsh the gardener who will explain air rooting to you and other methods of propagation.

From just a leaf???

[cyril sneer]

5 minutes ago, khunjeff said:

That listing is just for seeds.

What about this one?

 

https://shopee.co.th/product/27077521/10640843694?smtt=0.293379670-1631331991.9

[Misterwhisper]

It's also not illegal to fashion a krathom leaf into a little boat and let it float down the soi during the current rainstorms. Or compost it in your backyard and use it to fertilize your ganja plants so they blossom faster. 

[brianthainess]

17 hours ago, toofarnorth said:

18 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Has anyone tried planting a krathom leaf?

Where ?  And is it legal ?

Better to buy a sapling available from your local plant/garden shop, prices have risen since it is now legal 400B and 500b on Facebook. 

[brianthainess]

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

What about this one?

 

https://shopee.co.th/product/27077521/10640843694?smtt=0.293379670-1631331991.9

That's a good price, my friend paid 100b for just a dozen leaves in July.

[brianthainess]

15 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

Not sure how much is needed to feel anything.. 

Have been told start with 3 leaves, then increase to more next time if needed. You can either chew the raw leaves, or dry them and make tea. My friend made a mistake by storing them in the fridge to keep them fresh, they went black and rotted.

[IvorBiggun2]

30 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

My friend made a mistake by storing them in the fridge to keep them fresh, they went black and rotted.

Have mine in the fridge for the last 3 days. No probs.

 

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DO: Consider Freezing – Freezers are cool, dark, and dry, making them perfect for storing Kratom. You can easily carve out a corner in the family freezer or buy a small standalone to ensure you have plenty of dedicated Kratom space. You can even use vacuum sealed bags IN a freezer for the ultimate Kratom storage.

https://kratomspot.com/storing-your-kratom-dos-and-donts/

[PETERTHEEATER]

19 hours ago, thaitom said:

Not necessarily, you can take cuttings and grow them.  I tried planting my seed many times , it worked only once, she's 6 now

Following biblical law I 'spilled my seed upon the ground' but nothing sprang up.....????

[daveAustin]

For all the government’s faults—there are many—at least you can sample the nectar without fear of being incarcerated. My country is 100y behind. 

[RocketDog]

4 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Following biblical law I 'spilled my seed upon the ground' but nothing sprang up.....????

Where were you carrying it and why did it spill?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[rooinekrsa]

On 9/10/2021 at 12:17 PM, toofarnorth said:

Where ?  And is it legal ?

tried planting some chicken feathers but could not get them to grow

[Rookiescot]

On 9/10/2021 at 6:22 PM, KannikaP said:

From the OP

Kratom leaves can be freely planted.........

 

I went on Gardeners' Questiontime and asked Alan Titmarsh, who told me you need a SEED to grow anything from!

What does he know.

[Dionigi]

On 9/11/2021 at 10:43 AM, KannikaP said:

From just a leaf???

The quote was that you needed seed to grow anything. I was not just about leaves.

[IvorBiggun2]

After planting my Kratom sapling all appeared bad. The leaves on the sapling turned brown and fell off. I thought the rumour to be true that they were a difficult plant to get established. Thankfully after about 2 weeks new leaves have begun to appear. Things are now looking up.

[cyril sneer]

the powdered tea stuff is top notch, feels like a proper opioid

[IvorBiggun2]

23 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

the powdered tea stuff is top notch, feels like a proper opioid

With tea and leaf eating I've yet to get any kinda buzz