Popular Post webfact 155995 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 By Tanakorn Sangiam BANGKOK (NNT) - The State Railway of Thailand has stressed the used trains from Japan it is receiving as a donation are still in good condition. The state railway operator will need to pay for the transportation of the 17 train carriages at a cost of 42.5 million baht. The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) has announced outcomes of the inspection of the 17 multiple unit diesel train carriages being donated by Japan, finding them all in good condition. Japan’s rail operator JR Hokkaido is donating the train cars decommissioned since 2016 to Thailand, with the cost of transportation and refurbishment covered by the SRT. Mr Aekkarat Sriarayanpong, the SRT’s Public Relations director, said today the SRT will conduct a safety inspection and refurbishment of these trains on their arrival, to make the trains suitable for operations in Thailand as tourism trains. The SRT had earlier in October 2018 received 10 train cars from Japan. These carriages are also being refurbished to serve as a tourism train. The trains, expected to enter service next year, will include three regular passenger carriages, a family car, and a recreational car, with the livery reflecting areas the tourist train passes through. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-09-11 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman 58554 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 Looks like a train carriage used to carry the Japanese officials to sign surrender in WW2 seventy odd years ago ! Should be on Antique road show 7 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gold Star 4336 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 Japan realizes that Thailand has not had much improvement with railways since the last time they were here. Riding a train is like an offroad adventure. Officials still think that trains here should run on batteries. Thank you Japan for your generous charity handout. 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lodstewart 286 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 makes me think of the quote in Belfast of the Titanic..........'well it was ok when it left here' 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra 57079 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 Now when Japan is donating stuff to Thailand without expecting anything in return that i believe, China "donating" anything to Thailand, that has strings attached, thick long strings... 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock 921 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 lets see how long it takes to derail these cars and turn them into fire wood?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Heng 1251 Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 TH has always been a favorite for Japanese charity and development. It's kind of how many households here view their Laotian maids. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k 36940 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Diesel.... I thought we were moving away from such fuels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy 41691 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, rodknock said: lets see how long it takes to derail these cars and turn them into fire wood?? Unless someone remembers that Thailand and Japan (whilst both nominally "metre gauge") are not actually the same gauge they aren't going to get railed in the first place 🙂 Thailand is actually 1,000mm whereas Japan is Cape Gauge (1,067mm). If you look at many of the (somewhat) preserved steam locos that were actually Japanese imports during the war they have been re-gauged by moving the wheel tyres inwards by an inch or so. 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aussieroaming 6956 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 If the Thai Government cracked down on MP's and other people in power (RTP and military for example) corruptly bleeding the country dry, instead of turning a blind eye to the thievery the government would be able to buy new trains instead of begging for Jqpans old trains. But while the government is busy begging for free trains can I suggest that they also kiss someones a*rse in order to obtain some replacement buses for the BMA. A majority of the diesel belching buses are about 40 years past their use by date. 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli 45618 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Looks like a train carriage used to carry the Japanese officials to sign surrender in WW2 seventy odd years ago ! Should be on Antique road show Still better than anything Thailands got. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli 45618 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Diesel.... I thought we were moving away from such fuels. Not if it's free. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrfill 4625 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ezzra said: Now when Japan is donating stuff to Thailand without expecting anything in return that i believe, China "donating" anything to Thailand, that has strings attached, thick long strings... Its saved them having to pay a salvager to remove and dispose of the old carriages. Nice deal... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kotsak 14495 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Will it run cross river Kwai? Edited September 11, 2021 by kotsak 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai 10254 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Diesel.... I thought we were moving away from such fuels. Only the civilised world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet 4810 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I think they look quite nice in the photo. But I wouldn't like to be sitting in any of those seats if it had to break sharply. Would slide from one end of the carriage to the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE 4391 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Since 2018 and still fixing up the 10 train cars donated? And that photo no doubt is the one in best shape. I'm gonna figure that someone important owns a train reconditioning business. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda 8406 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Looks like a train carriage used to carry the Japanese officials to sign surrender in WW2 seventy odd years ago ! Should be on Antique road show Really? Ever travelled by train in Thailand before they bought a few new train carriages from China? The one thing I find sad that the donated trains will not look like anything resembling the picture after the famous Thai maintenance gets involved. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai 1945 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Crossy said: Unless someone remembers that Thailand and Japan (whilst both nominally "metre gauge") are not actually the same gauge they aren't going to get railed in the first place 🙂 Thailand is actually 1,000mm whereas Japan is Cape Gauge (1,067mm). If you look at many of the (somewhat) preserved steam locos that were actually Japanese imports during the war they have been re-gauged by moving the wheel tyres inwards by an inch or so. Great for tourists (and me) if they got the Burma railway thru Hellfire Pass up and running and used this rolling stock. Now that would be a train freaks adventure. Can't wait. Thai government always thinking ahead. 🙂 Still thinking about the Beijing to Russia and Beijing to Tibet train trips I didn't do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy 1971 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, kotsak said: Will it run cross river Kwai? I think the bridge is closed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy 1971 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, carlyai said: Great for tourists (and me) if they got the Burma railway thru Hellfire Pass up and running and used this rolling stock. Now that would be a train freaks adventure. Can't wait. Thai government always thinking ahead. 🙂 Still thinking about the Beijing to Russia and Beijing to Tibet train trips I didn't do. They do have a steam powered train with old stock running from Kanchanaburi to Sai Yok where it is turned around and you come back. It's a great day out. Other than that the railway bed exists in places but the track is all gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal 11330 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, jacko45k said: Diesel.... I thought we were moving away from such fuels. No but Japan is? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk 1638 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Crossy said: Unless someone remembers that Thailand and Japan (whilst both nominally "metre gauge") are not actually the same gauge they aren't going to get railed in the first place 🙂 Thailand is actually 1,000mm whereas Japan is Cape Gauge (1,067mm). If you look at many of the (somewhat) preserved steam locos that were actually Japanese imports during the war they have been re-gauged by moving the wheel tyres inwards by an inch or so. Perhaps that's why the refurbishment of the first donation that began in October 2018 is still not complete! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell 20010 Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 hours ago, webfact said: The state railway operator will need to pay for the transportation of the 17 train carriages at a cost of 42.5 million baht. Check out the (new) shareholders of the designated haulage company. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess 6435 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 2.5 million baht per carriage 77k USD for shipping??? is that COD ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess 6435 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Crossy said: Unless someone remembers that Thailand and Japan (whilst both nominally "metre gauge") are not actually the same gauge they aren't going to get railed in the first place 🙂 Thailand is actually 1,000mm whereas Japan is Cape Gauge (1,067mm). If you look at many of the (somewhat) preserved steam locos that were actually Japanese imports during the war they have been re-gauged by moving the wheel tyres inwards by an inch or so. As the OZYs would say "She'll be right mate, no worries" or " If at first you don't succeed give up, go home and have a coldy (beer) " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 3348 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, jacko45k said: Diesel.... I thought we were moving away from such fuels. They aren't Loco's they are carriages. I would think they can hook them up to an Electric Loco as the carriages haven't got self propulsion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover 11531 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, digger70 said: They aren't Loco's they are carriages. I would think they can hook them up to an Electric Loco as the carriages haven't got self propulsion. 9 hours ago, webfact said: The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) has announced outcomes of the inspection of the 17 multiple unit diesel train carriages being donated by Japan, finding them all in good condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok 50935 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, brianthainess said: 2.5 million baht per carriage 77k USD for shipping??? is that COD ? I really can't make a comment on this but does anyone actually know real costs of something like this. I mean a train carriage obviously does not fit into a shipping container. So its odd size makes it a bit hard to transport. Before i cry corruption and so on id love to hear from some people in the know in the transport sector. If this includes some taxes too then maybe its a fair price. I have no clue but I doubt anyone has an idea about the real price. I did find Crossy his remark useful about the fact that all trains need new wheels for the different gauge. I mean just imagine them being imported and then turning to dust because nobody wants to pay for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 3348 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Moonlover said: The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) has announced outcomes of the inspection of the 17 multiple unit diesel train carriages being donated by Japan, finding them all in good condition. Like I said they are Carriages Not Loco's . One can tow them with ones Ute if you like . Edited September 11, 2021 by digger70 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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