Popular Post snoop1130 Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 It seems unbelievable that England has put in place a discriminatory policy that refuses to accept COVID-19 jabs given in countries in Latin American, Africa and South and Southeast Asia. The government of Prime Minister Boris Johnson is showing its dark side by recognising only shots given in a select group of countries. According to the new rules, anybody visiting England must be fully inoculated with Astra Zeneca, Pfizer, Moderna or Janssen vaccines. These must, however, have been administrated in the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea or an EU member country for the recipient to be considered to be fully vaccinated and exempt from quarantine. Problem is that, those vaccinated with the same brands in Africa, Latin America or, say, in India, to name but a few, will not be considered fully vaccinated and must enter quarantine for 10 days. The new policy is affecting hundreds of Thai families, whose children are going to study in England’s schools and universities. They have to undergo 10 days of quarantine, even though they have been fully vaccinated. Thailand signed an agreement to produce the AstraZeneca vaccine under license last October and has been using it to inoculate its population since early June. As of September 13th, a total of 19.5 million doses of AstraZeneca have been administrated in Thailand. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/op-ed-englands-unfriendly-travel-regulations/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-09-28 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyril sneer Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 it's a disgrace when you see certain countries taken off the red list in comparison to Thailand mostly for political reasons rather than numbers 7 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neilly Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: certain countries taken off the red list in comparison to Thailand I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with the lack of clarity of Thailand's figures ????...surely not ???? 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 Think it shows UK doesn't believe a word that Thailand says and how genuine their vaccine certificates are? Maybe I'm missing something, as a UK citizen do i have to do quarantine when i arrive in Thailand? Is there other hoops to jump through when entering Thailand? Thought so. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, Neilly said: I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with the lack of clarity of Thailand's figures ????...surely not ???? It is not only the lack of 'clarity' of the numbers, but also the watering down of the vaccinations. Thailand cannot be trusted to give the recommended doses of the recommended vaccines. Then there is the issue of the Thai AZ vaccine. Same formula but they have changed one (or two?) of the ingredients. Thailand - hub of fakes. (Watches, handbags, T shirts and ?vaccines?) 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) "mostly for political reasons rather than numbers " You could always sign this petition. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/594456 Edited September 28, 2021 by Tropicalevo 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 I am afraid that's what happens when you are proven liars and shysters I believe some of the neighbours refer to the kingdom as Lieland and that tells you all you need to know about why nations are sceptical of the numbers and vaccination data In the immortal words of Nelson Muntz... 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 Unfriendly? And Thailand’s regs, AND ongoing prejudice toward foreigners in general? In today’s overly prissy climate, UK would not dare to do such a thing based on someone’s race, gender, sexual persuasion etc etc. This is all competency level of certain governments. Look to your ‘leaders’, get over it and get your S together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: It is not only the lack of 'clarity' of the numbers, but also the watering down of the vaccinations. Thailand cannot be trusted to give the recommended doses of the recommended vaccines. Then there is the issue of the Thai AZ vaccine. Same formula but they have changed one (or two?) of the ingredients. Thailand - hub of fakes. (Watches, handbags, T shirts and ?vaccines?) Do you have a source for your claim that there are other ingredients used? According to the AZ statement: Q: Can I travel with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca that has been manufactured in Thailand? A: COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca that is made in Thailand is of the same quality as AstraZeneca's vaccine made in Europe, Korea, Japan, Australia, and elsewhere https://www.astrazeneca.com/country-sites/thailand/press-release/travelling-with-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-made-in-thailand.html 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: Do you have a source for your claim that there are other ingredients used? According to the AZ statement: Q: Can I travel with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca that has been manufactured in Thailand? A: COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca that is made in Thailand is of the same quality as AstraZeneca's vaccine made in Europe, Korea, Japan, Australia, and elsewhere https://www.astrazeneca.com/country-sites/thailand/press-release/travelling-with-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-made-in-thailand.html I don't think it is anything to do with AZ vaccine per se I think it has much more to do with honesty and clarity both of which are on the endangered list where Thailand is concerned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, snoop1130 said: It seems unbelievable that England has put in place a discriminatory policy that refuses to accept COVID-19 jabs given in countries in Latin American, Africa and South and Southeast Asia. no they haven't - these countries including Thailand are on red list, until that changes then it matters not a jot, until Thailand status changes then it doesn't matter what vaccine you have or where you got it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, mark131v said: I don't think it is anything to do with AZ vaccine per se I think it has much more to do with honesty and clarity both of which are on the endangered list where Thailand is concerned... Clear. If Thai officials stupidly declare that they did not intend to inject full doses or in other unapproved areas of the body is one thing. But the claim that other ingredients are used by AZ Thailand is a damaging claim. I am currently fighting with the EU authorities for the EU-wide recognition of the AZ vaccine made in Thailand. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: Clear. If Thai officials stupidly declare that they did not intend to inject full doses or in other unapproved areas of the body is one thing. But the claim that other ingredients are used by AZ Thailand is a damaging claim. I am currently fighting with the EU authorities for the EU-wide recognition of the AZ vaccine made in Thailand. Good luck with that and totally understand but it is not about the vaccine or where you got it - well at least in the UK If you came to Thailand fully vaccinated in the UK and went home now - it doesn't matter that you got your vaccine in the UK - you still have to quarantine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soikhaonoiken Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 The World is watching, and know that Thailand cuts corners on many issues, including medical, and renowned for fudging figure's Thailand is complaining that people have to quarantine if travelling from Thailand to the UK, But, wait a minute as of today, Thailand expects all travellers visiting Thailand to quarantine for 15 nights no matter what there vaccination status is... You can't have it all your ways, so get real Thailand.... 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: Think it shows UK doesn't believe a word that Thailand says and how genuine their vaccine certificates are? Maybe I'm missing something, as a UK citizen do i have to do quarantine when i arrive in Thailand? Is there other hoops to jump through when entering Thailand? Thought so. Because the UK has one of the worst death and infection rates in the world but arrivals from the UK who are fully vaccinated do not need to do hotel or self quarantine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: It seems unbelievable that England has put in place a discriminatory policy that refuses to accept COVID-19 jabs given in countries And equally unbelievable the red tape and quarantine regulations that Thailand imposes on fully vaccinated and tested tourists trying to enter Thailand. Som nam na. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post actonion Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 South East Asia, Latin America, Africa, most of the countries there have dodgy Governments and fake goods its no wonder they're not trusted... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagallim Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Because the UK has one of the worst death and infection rates in the world but arrivals from the UK who are fully vaccinated do not need to do hotel or self quarantine.. UK citizens or permanent residents (along with anybody else) arriving in the UK from a country on the 'Red List' are required to hotel quarantine regardless of their vaccination status. Hence those from the UK currently doing the Phuket Sandbox (having been fully vaccinated in the UK) will have to hotel quarantine on their return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Neilly said: I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with the lack of clarity of Thailand's figures ????...surely not ???? China hides their figures and has so far been rewarded for it, maybe Thailand should go the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Neilly said: I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with the lack of clarity of Thailand's figures ????...surely not ???? ..... and all the other countries on the approved list have perfect systems?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The new policy is affecting hundreds of Thai families, whose children are going to study in England’s schools and universities. They have to undergo 10 days of quarantine, even though they have been fully vaccinated. School / Uni terms started weeks ago, so no-one traveling now is going back to study, unless they've bunked off for the first 4 weeks. Plus, prior to going on Red List, kids from Thailand under 18 didn't even have to self-isolate if they could claim to be residing in UK (which would be the case if in full-time education). Plus if they can afford private education in UK, then these families should be able to afford quarantine. It was obvious that Thailand was highly likely to go on red list and in fact amazing that it didn't go before it did. I feel sorry for them, sure, and UK needs to re-visit its travel restrictions, but boy, so does Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 Thais complaining about discriminatory practices based on nationality? ???? Maybe we could charge you 10x the price of British nationals for your PCR tests as well. You know, even if you work and pay tax in Britain for years, we'll just base it on your ethnicity when you show up at the venue. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 Aww, those poor, rich Thai kids not being able to get to England more easily to continue their privileged lifestyles. Truly heartbreaking. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Aww, those poor, rich Thai kids not being able to get to England more easily to continue their privileged lifestyles. Truly heartbreaking. Fagging at Eton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 6 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Because the UK has one of the worst death and infection rates in the world but arrivals from the UK who are fully vaccinated do not need to do hotel or self quarantine.. You need to educate yourself a bit. UK - - 1 million tests per day - 70% plus of the population fully vaccinated - society opened up, life as normal. - funded.development of AZ vaccine - donated FOC vaccines to third world countries (Thailand). - one of the largest genome sequencing capabilities in the world. Compare to the basket case of Thailand and what Thailand has done for it's own citizens or contributed in any way to the world medically, scientifically or charitably during this pandemic. You also need to educate yourself about Thailand's entry requirements. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Britain unfriendly? Wow, very hard to believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 WE are indulging in a bit of solipsism here. This is aimed at India and Pakistan, not Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinrada Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 When is the Next UK government travel announcement? Hope this is true...Following the update on Friday, September 17 that set out a wholesale update to the UK system by scrapping the traffic-light system, the next Update is expected to be around October 7 or 8. The Transport secretary told the Transport Select Committee on September 22 that the travel-list reviews would keep to the same Three-weekly timetable as before..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: It seems unbelievable that England has put in place a discriminatory policy that refuses to accept COVID-19 jabs given in countries in Latin American, Africa and South and Southeast Asia. 555 As opposed to Thailand? Thailand accepts no vaccinated tourists from anywhere without quarantine! Talk about pot kettle black 555 Edited September 29, 2021 by meechai 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maxcorrigan Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, bkk6060 said: Britain unfriendly? Wow, very hard to believe. Only to native brits, floating in on a rubber boat are made more than welcome! (sarc.) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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