Jump to content



TAT boss: quarantine remains for 1 day to test all visitors, no going back to old tourism pub scenes


webfact

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, KhruGin said:

So the quality tourists come to LOS, quality dad, quality mom, and two quality kids. End of the day after doing quality things like visiting temples, going to the beach, buying designer goods in a quality mall, eating at a quality restaurant ..guess what, quality dad would like a beer or even an XO brandy if he's proper quality ..and yet he can't . Keep on dreaming TAT for that big rush of high end quality tourists coming on November 1st.

 

As a side note: It was the dirty farang backpacker all those years ago that built up the potential for what we see now and laughably what the TAT hope for too ..guess that's all forgotten eh.  

Strike off buying designer clothes at the mall. Few foreigners have an appetite to pay double or triple what they would pay back home, no matter how much money they have. Just another nail in the coffin of Thai tourism caused by stunning ignorance, a total lack of vision, and greed. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wouldn't put it past them to be playing a game. Tell everyone it is ok to come, no quarantine and everyone books. Thailand makes money on the bookings and they will just then do their best to persuade you to come and spend more money you were supposed to not have to spend or they will persuade you to just keep on changing the date of your booking so they can keep the money you already spent. I wouldn't put it past them.

  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/14/2021 at 9:50 PM, soi3eddie said:

Good luck with that. With European destinations in summer, Dubai and Carribean in winter then there are plenty of other family/luxury/value options closer to home. Thailand is an exotic place that had thrived for decades on the mix of hedonism, freedom and lax implementation of rules. Make it difficult, expensive and less fun then many will simply seek alternative destinations. Maybe he's only got the Chinese or Indians in mind so let's see how that goes.

 

I'm not going to Thailand on holiday as I live there so I don't know what difference this will make to tourists but things can change so quickly and announcements are made by all sorts of officials which are then contradicted. 

 

You mention lax implimentation of rules so even if there are rules stopping crowded bars and nightclubs and I've no idea how they will word those rules, will they be implimented? If it's as rigorous as other rules such as wearing a helmet on a bike I doubt anyone will notice.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, kimamey said:

I'm not going to Thailand on holiday as I live there so I don't know what difference this will make to tourists but things can change so quickly and announcements are made by all sorts of officials which are then contradicted. 

 

You mention lax implimentation of rules so even if there are rules stopping crowded bars and nightclubs and I've no idea how they will word those rules, will they be implimented? If it's as rigorous as other rules such as wearing a helmet on a bike I doubt anyone will notice.

And, who will actually enforce the new rules?

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

So they don't want the tourists back then?

 

That sort of sentiment is very much outdated in a global world. Thailand has tried to be for Thai's and failed would be a better motto.

 

Just look around at neighbouring countries - Thailand may well be further down the development route than some but in my opinion, its stalled and others are fast catching up. One is way ahead - Singapore.

 

'Thailand is for Thai's' - taught in schools and practised by the government will ultimately be the country's downfall - you can't have your cake and eat it.  Where's the cash going to come from for continued development - China?  Thailand needs to learn very quickly that those Chinese loans and investments come with many strings - ropes actually.

 

I had a couple of days in Vietnam last year and was impressed.  I'll be back there before to long to find out if the islands south and west of Ho Chi Minh are as beautiful as they look in the photos. Others will no doubt be similarily impressed.

 

There's a strong possibility that Covid 19 marks a point where travellers look elsewhere - if Thailand doesn't change its attitude, it will lose out.

Ho Chi Minh is so much cooler and quirkier than Bangkok. We literally keep on going just to cruise around, drink coffees and smoke cigarettes (Only place we smoke). The food, the awesome people, wicked niche architecture and boutique hotels, the ability to smoke weed, the road trips, the beaches, the hiking....the list goes on.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree with what you are saying. But, I will go a step further, and say I hope in this lifetime, I never learn to understand the Thai perspective. It is a rabbit hole I am not interested in climbing into. Is it a complete lack of logic and common sense? It seems that way to us, but I am sure it is deeper than that. 

Don't you mean to say: Western logic and Western common sense [whatever that is]?? All of which, has nothing to do with anything. 

You might give it another shot without the deluded and false superlatives/comparatives. 

Though, I suspect this attempt would lead to failure again. 

Ho hum....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

Ho Chi Minh is so much cooler and quirkier than Bangkok. We literally keep on going just to cruise around, drink coffees and smoke cigarettes (Only place we smoke). The food, the awesome people, wicked niche architecture and boutique hotels, the ability to smoke weed, the road trips, the beaches, the hiking....the list goes on.

Even during war time, Saigon was more fashionable and "cooler".

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/15/2021 at 1:54 AM, Boomer6969 said:

The dummy has just forgotten one minor aspect, how can you travel to and within Thailand with kids under 12? This is my situation, while I am living in Thailand and fully vaccinated (Janssen + Moderna) I can't even consider domestic travel with my two girls, 6 and 10 years old.

 

Otherwise his statement is rather reasonable. The one day quarantine is a must as otherwise people would have to wait for their results at the airport. The reorientation of Thai tourism away from sex, alcohol and drugs would be a legitimate move too and there will be enough Chinese and Indians..

 

 

There will not be enough hotel rooms in quarantine hotels to cater to the influx.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

55 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I cannot get my head around one issue. If everyone has to do a 1 day quarantine and thousands of people turn up, how are they going to be enough hotel rooms in quarantine hotels? I am pretty sure the vast majority of the hotels are not quarantine hotels as the the influx of tourists or non-immi's has been so low due to people staying away from the 7/10/14 day quarantine factor. So you might have a situation where people want to travel and will accept the 1 day quarantine but that there will not be another rooms to cater to the demand. Ridiculous.

 

+ I have no idea why non-immi's with houses cannot just self-quarantine at home. Ridiculous

On my 15 trips to Thailand I never ever paid for a hotel in advance.  I always want to see the hotel and room first.  Sometimes you get a room next to the elevator and that ding dong bell rings all night.  Or the room overlooks the main street with noise all night long.  The beauty and initial attraction of Thailand was always the ease and flexibility to look things over. I have seen or heard of many scams in my days since 2004.  One night forced stay is not a deal breaker, but sure is an inconvenience and an  extra cost. 

  • Like 2
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I wouldn't put it past them to be playing a game. Tell everyone it is ok to come, no quarantine and everyone books. Thailand makes money on the bookings and they will just then do their best to persuade you to come and spend more money you were supposed to not have to spend or they will persuade you to just keep on changing the date of your booking so they can keep the money you already spent. I wouldn't put it past them.

Nah, you credit them with being far too clever.  Up to now, it would be a fair guess that a good proportion of the 'tourists' who've endured the different forms of quarantine were not actually tourists, they were people with connections to Thailand and once they finished their sentence they headed home to their existing Thai abode. The real tourists have not been attracted by the various schemes so far - as evidenced by the very low numbers partaking of the Phuket Sandbox failure.

 

They seem to have worked that one out - not difficult to count arrivals really. When I say you credit them with being far too clever - you have to remember that they are targeting real 'tourists' and those tourists will have to stay in a hotel in any case. Whether its a quarantine hotel or not, they need to stay somewhere so I don't think this is some cunning plan to fill the hotels and then keep you there.

Edited by KhaoYai
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/15/2021 at 7:54 AM, Boomer6969 said:

The dummy has just forgotten one minor aspect, how can you travel to and within Thailand with kids under 12? This is my situation, while I am living in Thailand and fully vaccinated (Janssen + Moderna) I can't even consider domestic travel with my two girls, 6 and 10 years old.

 

Otherwise his statement is rather reasonable. The one day quarantine is a must as otherwise people would have to wait for their results at the airport. The reorientation of Thai tourism away from sex, alcohol and drugs would be a legitimate move too and there will be enough Chinese and Indians..

 

 

Why can.t you travel domestically with your 2 daughters, have a 6 year old daughter and have flew 2 times since September when it opened with no issues.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

So is he going knock down the pubs ...build 5 star hotels ..build kiddies theme parks ...probably yes all done by middle next year and while he's at it just fix the pavements floods abandoned buildings. Hey do that 1st  ...there's a  list mile long ..he's probably got pink elephants lined up ..and few pixies..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

There will not be enough hotel rooms in quarantine hotels to cater to the influx.

  Agreed....and that may not be the eventual plan.  Front page of Bangkok Post has a story saying that the government intends to set up "swab hubs" for tourists (I swear, I'm not making this up) across Bangkok.  The story likened it to Phuket which, apparently, had PCR tests set up at hotel check-in.....?  Dunno.  

 

  Story is pretty vague on details, as usual, so I guess we wait to see.  

 

  

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

+ I have no idea why non-immi's with houses cannot just self-quarantine at home. Ridiculous

That would not be a quarantine at all, and even I see why they should not treat one group of arrivals differently. They just want to uncover any positives with a test before letting them run around. The reason is the same as before.....

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

You forgot to add that the new easier "Thailand Pass" is exactly the same as the old COE, amazing Thailand

 

Screenshot_20211017-112005_Chrome.jpg

Whoops! 

And there clever sleight-of-hand isn't even clever.

Expect a modification when ever they get around to it.

Edited by zzaa09
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.