HashBrownHarry Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just now, Rampant Rabbit said: But its NOT for EU members, the EU being WAY bigger than teeny tiny Thailand We're not discussing entry to EU, we're speak about 'teeny tiny' Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, berrec said: What about natural immunity from those that have had COVID and recovered, that’s a lot of potential tourists in those numbers. As of October 29, 2021, there were almost 246 million global cases of COVID-19. Around 223 million people had recovered from the disease. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1087466/covid19-cases-recoveries-deaths-worldwide/ Still requires a test and then at least 1 vaccination to enter Thailand in one of the 3 groups, I just do not remember which one now. found an infographic Edited October 29, 2021 by ThailandRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: We're not discussing entry to EU, we're speak about 'teeny tiny' Thailand. Yes and? I mean a few minutes ago you implied nowhere did vaccination entry only, so seems your happy to discuss the EU requirement, which Thailand should copy to get its visitor numbers right up The first Asian country to do this is going to get the full benefit leaving others in their wake Edited October 29, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Rak Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Here's a question? I have been fully vaccinated and so has my Thai wife, we are now just waiting for our boosters, my son who is over 12 years old and has dual nationality has only had 1 vaccination as is the mandate by the British government, I am lead to believe that Thai children are required to have 2 doses of the vaccine in Thailand, So the question is, is my son fully vaccinated with 1 dose or does he need 2 doses to enter, when or if I return. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, JCP108 said: Prob not that easy if you arrive at night. It's likely the staff who will swab you don't work 24/7. So, you have to wait for them to come to work and get to you. Then, they send that sample to the lab and you wait. Could be two nights if you arrive at night. Could be. Though I would be surprised if, once they get organised, they wouldn't be there to meet every incoming international flight, and have an efficient and timely testing system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Yes and? I mean a few minutes ago you implied nowhere did vaccination entry only, so seems your happy to discuss the EU requirement, which Thailand should copy to get its visitor numbers right up The first Asian country to do this is going to get the full benefit leaving others in their wake No, you compared entry to EU with entry to Thailand which is comparing apples to oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted October 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: ...once they get organised... We are talking about Thailand, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, JCP108 said: We are talking about Thailand, right? I am purposefully being a bit optimistic to offset the negative nellies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, HashBrownHarry said: No, you compared entry to EU with entry to Thailand which is comparing apples to oranges. youve lost me, you wanna talk about the Eu and Thailand when it suits YOU, ive said the tests are useless at attracting tourists all they want is a vaccicnation cert and good to go. You imply that having no test is a terrible thing and is "no problem" Well we can se cant we how many turn up in November to play musical chairs before they scrap the whole stupid plan and revert to the simplest option, vaccinated only. Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, tomacht8 said: A vaccinated person can fly back and forth within the EU without a test. This year the southern EU countries (Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal) had quite good tourist numbers. For example, Greece achieved 85.7% of the season's values of the previous record year 2019 in the months of July and August. Can they get on a flight without a test? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed strong Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: youve lost me, you wanna talk about the Eu and Thailand when it suits YOU, ive said the tests are useless at attracting tourists all they want is a vaccicnation cert and good to go. You imply that having no test is a terrible thing and is "no problem" Well we can se cant we how many turn up in November to play musical chairs before they scrap the whole stupid plan and revert to the simplest option, vaccinated only. Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, tomacht8 said: A vaccinated person can fly back and forth within the EU without a test. This year the southern EU countries (Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal) had quite good tourist numbers. For example, Greece achieved 85.7% of the season's values of the previous record year 2019 in the months of July and August. Can they get on a flight without a test? You cannot travel freely within the EU without testing. Im really not sure where you get your info from but its really not correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ed strong said: You cannot travel freely within the EU without testing. Im really not sure where you get your info from but its really not correct Look apparently we cant discuss the EU here anymore stop comparing pomegranites to custard apples although youd better tell the french and swedes that https://se.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-Can-I-enter-France#If-you-are-vaccinated Unvaccinated kids over 12 pcr test Travel documents if you are vaccinated Only vaccines authorized by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) will be accepted, i.e. Pfizer (Comirnaty), Moderna, AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria), Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) and AstraZeneca (Covishield). proof of vaccination. It will only be valid if it proves that you are fully vaccinated, i.e.: Seven days after the second shot for two-shot vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca (Vaxevria and Covishield)); Four weeks after the shot for one-shot vaccines (Johnson & Johnson); Seven days after the shot for vaccines administered to people who have already had COVID-19 (only one dose is necessary). a sworn declaration, that can be downloaded on the Interior Ministry’s website stating that you have no symptoms of COVID-19 infection; to your knowledge, you have not been in contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19 in the 14 days prior to your journey Edited October 29, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, thaiman said: What does this mean? Airlines bid for time slot to land at airports. In Thailand 80% of landing allocated tmes have been returned until end of March. Meaning airline do not have to pay for them . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I don't see "Living in the Twilight Zone" listed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdf Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) About the 46 countries... must one be a citizen of any of those countries? If not a citizen but living permanently (and vaccinated) in one of those 46 countries, which entry category or rule applies? (Liechtenstein passport holder living in Cambodia since 2012) Strange that Liechtenstein and Luxembourg are not on the list of 46 countries. Seems like tourism revenue maximization is the main motivator behind the creation of this list and not Covid-19 incidence. Edited October 29, 2021 by mvdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ed strong said: You cannot travel freely within the EU without testing. Im really not sure where you get your info from but its really not correct Oh dear. Vaccinated people can fly to the beaches of the southern EU countries (Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France) without having to do a Corvit test before within the EU (with very few exceptions (Bulgaria)). That is a fact. It doesn't hurt to look like other countries, which are equally dependent on tourism, have resolved the revival of their tourism with which rules and how. Edited October 29, 2021 by tomacht8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Tim207 said: Anybody know what a blue zone is? My home province is not a blue zone and i have no idea if that means i cant go or just no booze. Dont care about the bars but if their tracking app is meant to keep us in the blue zones not much point in going back. 7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: The first I've read of this. You can't leave your zone for 7 days after arrival! Don't mix up the type of entry. "blue zones" are irrelevant to double vaxed flying in from a "safe" country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 4 hours ago, mvdf said: I have a friend planning to come here in November. He has a passport from a country that's not on the list of 46 countries but he lives in Cambodia. Are the entry rules nationality-specific or are they based on where one has stayed 21 consecutive days prior to departure regardless of citizenship? He received full vaccination (2 + 1 booster shot) in Cambodia. Location specific, not passport specific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 9 hours ago, johng said: Why do Thai nationals still not have to provide a negative test before boarding the plane ? doesn't that "endanger" the whole plane load of tested passengers who may then on arrival test positive and have to be "incarcerated" for 10 days of their "holiday" Thats the plan amigo, shhhhhh that's a carefully guarded secret. TIT 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, generealty said: Where can I get a list of approved SHA+ certified hotel or alternative quarantine hotel for one night while they await the result of a RT-PCR test ? https://asq.in.th/?sortSelectedItem=Lowest+Price&durationSelectedItem=1+Day https://thaiest.com/blog/aq-hotel-1-night-packages and the usual suspects (Agoda etc. just ensure they meet the requirements) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 hours ago, smew said: Meaning airline do not have to pay for them . It also means that those planes full of "high spending" tourists are not coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salerno Posted October 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, DuaneDee said: Most peoples health insurance only covers them in their home country so all visitors will be required to buy a specific Thai health insurance policy that covers, in-patient, covid insurance, minimum US$50,000, this alone will stop many people from visiting thailand, just another additional cost and so good from the insurance providers here. The older you are the higher the premium. Again only rich people need apply, don't want those poor backpackers who don't spend enough money! No, they won't. Just perpetuating the "insurance scam" BS posted on here over and over again. There has never been a requirement for the insurance policy to be via a Thai company. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decca60 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Geoffggi said: I would love to know how they propose to successfully police all of these rules and regulations, they will need to double the number of police ....LOL Twice nothing is still nothing !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 A post with a video from an unapproved social media source (YouTube) have been removed: 18) Social Media content is acceptable in most social forums. However, in factual areas such as news, current affairs and health topics, it cannot be used unless it is from a credible news media source or government agency, and must include a weblink to the original source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 November 2022 is the real re-opening...how will the businesses cope until then...? Nearly 3 years...Chinese their latest cashcow...bridges drawn up and no travel till late 2022 for the masses over there. Who wants to get stuck in quarantine on arrival if a test shows up negative...7-14 days or whatever in a sealed hotel, then fly back out. They can do all their dog-and-pony shows from now till end of the year about drumming up re-opening...but I guess largest percentage won't come from outside Thailand..only those with ties in the country etc will endure the risk of getting quarantined. Think I'll just continue to enjoy fresh air and Autumn leaves in the meantime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRyland Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RafPinto said: Not vaccinated, no entry and not boarding a plane. Is anyone actually paying attention to these so-called vaccines anymore? The entire world is acting like they are some kind of ticket out of COVID but in reality they don't prevent transmission and at best are a safe guard for elderly and health comprised. The only rule for entry need be a negative test before boarding the plane and even then what's the point because Thailand like everywhere else and rife with COVID. Edited October 29, 2021 by NorthernRyland 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapcanuck Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I must have missed the memo. What is a SHA+ hotel? What does SHA stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, cheapcanuck said: I must have missed the memo. What is a SHA+ hotel? What does SHA stand for? 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: ASQ = Alternate State Quarantine AQ = Alternate Quarantine SHA = Safety Health Authority (hotels approved by) SHA+ = Safety Health Authority (hotels approved by) and >70% of employees at hotel have been fully vaccinated. CoE = Certificate of Entry For the purposes of the Phuket Sandbox and Samui Plus - SHA+ hotels were used where people could book the SHA+ hotel and register for CoE with the certificate issued by the Hotel (SHABA) and pay for and book their PCR test separately (proof of payment also required for CoE application) - the arrival PCR test is carried out at the Airport. For the purposes of the 1 night ‘Test and Go’ scheme in Bangkok - AQ is used (there is some bleedover from SHA+ which has muddied the waters a little - but ultimately the AQ hotels include Airport transport and PCR tests included and the PCR test is carried out at the hotel on arrival). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjb30i Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Don't get this 21 day rule (Not sure why greater than other countries with the same rule). Let's say I stay in the U.S. 14 days and then 7 days in Netherlands does this count as >21 days or has to be in a single country on the list? Let's say I stay in Thailand 3 weeks and then travel to Cambodia for 1 week and come back to Thailand. Can I do this? Who can you even ask for these type of questions? Embassy does not respond. Edited October 29, 2021 by tjb30i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRyland Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Is the Thai government not aware that COVID is an endemic seasonal virus and numbers will start rising in Europe/North America starting about right now? These low risk countries will soon be high risk and their entire plan to fall to pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 What happens if you test positive on arrival? 14 days in a private Thai hospital at 10,000 baht per night, even if you have no symptoms? Need some clarity on this before they get my tourist dollars... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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