Tourist faces huge bill, separation from family after testing positive on arrival in Thailand

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, chrisandsu said:

Why can’t you ? If anything we already know that the drs don’t really have a clue how it’s passed or how long it takes to incubate . 

Maybe you don’t but physicians understand that the incubation period for Covid is more than one day.

[chrisandsu]

7 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/10/20/925892185/do-masks-really-cut-your-risk-of-catching-covid-19-on-long-plane-flights

Who wrote this article ? The airline industry ? They also say that the hepafilters on planes wipe out 99.9% of bacteria ….. anyone that’s been on a long haul flight will safely say that’s bs . 

[Danderman123]

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

exactly, that is the disparity we have been talking about.  I feel bad for him, but if he is positive then he has a chance of infecting others around him.  His family is being sent to quarantine to see if in a few days they test positive as well.

It is very possible this person was infected back home, maybe a few days before their pre-departure Covid test.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, chrisandsu said:

Why can’t you ? If anything we already know that the drs don’t really have a clue how it’s passed or how long it takes to incubate . 

Time for each seat on the flight to be bubble and sealed......lol

[Jonathan Swift]

20 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

Thailand requires a $100,000 US Covid insurance policy for entry. That’s 3,300,000 baht. Did this guy screw up big time?

[Russell17au]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It is very possible this person was infected back home, maybe a few days before their pre-departure Covid test.

 

 

It is possible that this man got infected the day before his pre-flight test which is 72 hours before departure and that test would give a negative result but when he arrives here possibly 5 days later he gives a positive result because of the time for incubation 

[Jonathan Swift]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It is very possible this person was infected back home, maybe a few days before their pre-departure Covid test.

 

 

False positives are also possible. 

[chrisandsu]

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Time for each seat on the flight to be bubble and sealed......lol

Long haul flights and the stress really weakens your immune system. The one thing we can say is no one really has a clue what’s going on . 

[aussiexpat]

Just now, Jonathan Swift said:

Thailand requires a $100,000 US Covid insurance policy for entry. That’s 3,300,000 baht. Did this guy screw up big time?

Not all of the"acceptable"  insurance policies cover you if you are asymptomatic, which he was.

 

If Thailand is going to mandate everyone get insurance then it should cover all cases, so symptoms, no symptoms or forced quarantine as a so called close contact. All insurance should pay direct to the hospital or quarantine hotel as well, otherwise the whole thing is pointless.

[Russell17au]

5 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Thailand requires a $100,000 US Covid insurance policy for entry. That’s 3,300,000 baht. Did this guy screw up big time?

The insurance issue has always been a big problem with westerners, they all want to do it cheap and that is not only with Thailand and the westerners do not bother to read the exclusions like motorbikes and jetskis and one of the first things that they do is hire a motorbike or go on a jetski and have an accident and end up in all types of s**t because they are not covered by their insurance. They would prefer to take the risk than to pay that extra cover premium to protect themselves and this has been happening for many years in many holiday countries.

[Jonathan Swift]

20 hours ago, wprime said:

Congratulations Kirovs. You're the reason we have these rules, because you can't be trusted to protect yourself from the virus before traveling.

 

Enjoy your 350,000 baht bill.

Your utter lack of compassion is stunning. No one knows how he contracted this, he could still contract it even if vaccinated, it’s quite common. If he abided by the rules his insurance should cover covid up to $100,000 according to immigration. Perhaps he has the insurance, or else why would they have let him in? But if not, I would gladly contribute to a go fund me effort on his behalf. Because unlike you, I have compassion and am a human being.

[Sanookmike]

Already expressed my concerns with the PCR test on arrival being a gamble due to false positives etc, saying that tho they do give you a list of things that you shouldn't do up to 30 mins before taking it so you don't spoil the test... Maybe he was positive before he departed. 

 

Not heard anything recent about close contact on the plane but the guy that shared the taxi knew the other person and was in the same "party", they won't bundle you in a cab with a stranger.

 

Edited November 11, 2021 by Sanookmike

[crazykopite]

Only a fool would come to Thailand with its current restrictions ,it just not worth the gamble unless you have money to burn 

[Jonathan Swift]

8 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

Not all of the"acceptable"  insurance policies cover you if you are asymptomatic, which he was.

 

If Thailand is going to mandate everyone get insurance then it should cover all cases, so symptoms, no symptoms or forced quarantine as a so called close contact. All insurance should pay direct to the hospital or quarantine hotel as well, otherwise the whole thing is pointless.

That’s why one needs to read and choose carefully one’s policy. For my past 2 trips here I had great coverage which even covered emergency repatriation flights

[Russell17au]

4 minutes ago, Sanookmike said:

Already expressed my concerns with the PCR test on arrival being a gamble due to false positives etc, saying that tho they do give you a list of things that you shouldn't do up to 30 mins before taking it so you don't spoil the test... Maybe he was positive before he departed. 

 

You are dead right about that because even if you show a negative result for your pre-flight test 72 hours before departure you could have been infected 2 days before the test and still give a negative result which would mean about a 6 - 7 days incubation period before the positive test on arrival. There is no test just before boarding the plane, the only test is 72 hours before and anything can happen in between that test and your arrival test 

[stickyrice2000]

I expect this type of situation already.  It's a bet that the tourist is taking.  If you hit the jackpot, your vacation is ruined including extra bills.

[goatfarmer]

20 hours ago, redsongthaew said:

 

AXA have an excellent policy:

 

https://axaxl.com/insurance/products/security-risks

Kidnap? Extortion? Wrongful detention? Good luck with that!

[jaideedave]

19 hours ago, Nabby said:

Do not go to Thailand unless you must. No need to visit this dry caliphate devoid of tourist infrastructure. Go elsewhere, or be prepared to have your year ruined. 

Nabby : You are exactly correct. Very bad timing to visit now..Wait till next year and only if these stupid rules are gone!

[aussiexpat]

1 hour ago, Russell17au said:

The insurance issue has always been a big problem with westerners, they all want to do it cheap and that is not only with Thailand and the westerners do not bother to read the exclusions like motorbikes and jetskis and one of the first things that they do is hire a motorbike or go on a jetski and have an accident and end up in all types of s**t because they are not covered by their insurance. They would prefer to take the risk than to pay that extra cover premium to protect themselves and this has been happening for many years in many holiday countries.

Not only bike and jet ski, when I read the small print it said not covered if testing at > 0.15 alcohol. That means  I'm only covered for 10 hours a day ????

 

Edited November 11, 2021 by aussiexpat

[RafPinto]

Imagine you have your 2 vaccines.

Self-isolate 2 weeks  at home before your flight to eliminate all possible risks of an infection. You do your test before flying.

You arrive in BKK and come into close contact with a thai person let's inside the airplane or stepping out of the aircraft, walking inside the airport, paper checking or whatever.

The thai person was not required to do a test before flying.

Thai person tests positive and you, the unlucky farang who was close to that person, you will pay the price and off you go for your 2 weeks "holidays in hell".

 

They should make it compulsory for everyone "thais included" to have both vaccines and test negative before flying.

[Farangus]

46 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

The thai person was not required to do a test before flying.

Thai person tests positive and you, the unlucky farang who was close to that person, you will pay the price and off you go for your 2 weeks "holidays in hell".

Guys, when you fill out the Thailand Pass, is there an agreement that you agree to pay for the quarantine hotel if you test negative, but the neighbor on the plane failed the test? If not, how can they get you to pay a huge amount of money?

[DavisH]

23 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

ICU is about 30K baht / day at a local provate hospital. So make of that fee what you will:) They mus use the most expensive paracetamol in existence lol

[thaiman]

50 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

Imagine you have your 2 vaccines.

Self-isolate 2 weeks  at home before your flight to eliminate all possible risks of an infection. You do your test before flying.

You arrive in BKK and come into close contact with a thai person let's inside the airplane or stepping out of the aircraft, walking inside the airport, paper checking or whatever.

The thai person was not required to do a test before flying.

Thai person tests positive and you, the unlucky farang who was close to that person, you will pay the price and off you go for your 2 weeks "holidays in hell".

 

They should make it compulsory for everyone "thais included" to have both vaccines and test negative before flying.

This is a good point.  So many if not all flights contain unvaccinated people sitting alongside vaccinated people?

[DavisH]

Hopefully foreigners will wide up to this scam and not come. Get insurance and think everything is dandy then get slammed with a huge bill for being asymptomatic! They must be crazy or desperate to come. 

[Neeranam]

54 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

Imagine you have your 2 vaccines.

Self-isolate 2 weeks  at home before your flight to eliminate all possible risks of an infection. You do your test before flying.

You arrive in BKK and come into close contact with a thai person let's inside the airplane or stepping out of the aircraft, walking inside the airport, paper checking or whatever.

The thai person was not required to do a test before flying.

Thai person tests positive and you, the unlucky farang who was close to that person, you will pay the price and off you go for your 2 weeks "holidays in hell".

 

They should make it compulsory for everyone "thais included" to have both vaccines and test negative before flying.

No they should not.  Thais have the right to enter their country without being vaccinated. 

What a selfish, paranoid attitude. 

[NoshowJones]

23 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

This is Thailand run by an unelected soldier posing as a PM, and the rest of his generals, they have got to have their fingers in all the pies.

[JustAnotherHun]

4 hours ago, Russell17au said:

 

 

_{It appears that you are the one that does not know what the word "contagious" means not me}

con·ta·gious

/kənˈtājəs/

adjective

1.

(of a disease) spread from one person or organism to another by direct or indirect contact.

"a contagious infection"

2.

(of an emotion, feeling, or attitude) likely to spread to and affect others.

 

I see you are able to copy&paste correctly. Congratulations.

But sadly you do not understand what your pasted word means.

 

You said, Covid19 is the most contagious desease of the current world, didn't you?

That's wrong.

The by far most contgious desease is the Common Cold, followed by Influenza, Conjunctivitis, Viral Gastroenteritis, and Strep Throat.

 

So if you wanted to say Cov19 is currently the the desease infecting more people than others, then you should learn to express youself properly.

But even that would be wrong.

Just trying to help... ????

Edited November 11, 2021 by JustAnotherHun

[Nino3]

20 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

You are wrong about entry requirements to the US. It only reopened to non-US citizens at the beginning of the week and the requirements for entry are clearly laid out - ESTA, C19 test within 72 hours of travel and agreement to do one 3-5 days after arrival for contact tracing. I am travelling there next month from the UK btw....

 

Your comments about entry to the UK are not correct either. There is no longer a red list and associated quarantine hotels. You have to complete a passenger locator form prior to entering the UK and register a lateral flow test on it, which is submitted on day 2. If you fail that, you are asked to self isolate for 10 days. No enforced stay in a quarantine hotel. 

 

As for your comments about death rates, if you seriously believe the Thai figures are comparable with those taken in the UK and USA, you must be joking right?

 

Keep wearing the tin foil hat and let people get on with their lives. Vaccines were developed to prevent serious illness and death and have done a terrific job in that respect. I'm sure you'd have us walking around in masks ad infinitum in a perpetual state of fear. 

Unless I'm missing something then the statement regarding the US only opening to non-US citizens this week is incorrect. My Thai national girlfriend and her Thai national son entered the US in May 2021 on tourist visa's. 

[smew]

23 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

or maybe trying to get someone to set up a collect money form me campaign...I am being sarcastic  

[vinci]

honestly you can't blame the Thai for what they do, why not blame the retard people that thinking its a good time to travel, they made the choice, maybe get some common sense next time, now they paying the price