Poll: Expats -- do you identify as a globalist?

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Casesrisingpanic said:

Let's cut to the chase here:

 

Leftists love the corrupt useless organizations that have been praised by globalists for decades. 

 

The WHO, UN, and the world bank. 

 

The left loves to brand anyone who disagrees with their ridiculous one world view of what they want other countries to adhere to as racist, xenophobic, facsist, and whatever other vacuous inane blather they think they want to come up with.

 

They have the unfounded high minded pseudo intellectual arrogance that they think they have the right to decide what a sovereign nation should do to satisfy their ridiculous virtue signaling nonsense. 

Let's cut to the chase here:

 

Being an "internationalist" or "globalist" isn't in any way synonymous with thinking "they have the right to decide what a sovereign nation should do to satisfy their ridiculous virtue signaling nonsense". Got it?

 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Casesrisingpanic said:

Antifa is a fascist violent crime syndicate, try to keep up. 

Crime syndicate? You have any links to credible sources confirming this? Not holding my breath but miracles have happened (they claim).

 

And do you want a picture of a really violent crime syndicate consisting of despicable traitors? Here you go:

 

[runamok27]

21 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Far right nutters are in all westernized countries.  But yes, super bad in the US right now.  I'm from the US and don't even want to go there for a visit.  Was there this summer and it's bad.

Not sure where you went but things are all good everywhere I've gone. Your fearmongering is comical.

[LarrySR]

8 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

 

 

"And do you want a picture of a really violent crime syndicate consisting of despicable traitors? Here you go."

 

 

No no no. I watch Fox and you have things all backwards.....Those white supramicist guys crashing thru the windows at the US Capitol, dressed in tactical gear, carrying pitchforks and baseball bats, looking to hang the Vice President are "patriots." 

 

Now if you're a black football player, taking a knee to protest police brutality, you're unAmerican and should be deported!!

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by LarrySR

[Jeffr2]

12 hours ago, Casesrisingpanic said:

Let's cut to the chase here:

 

Leftists love the corrupt useless organizations that have been praised by globalists for decades. 

 

The WHO, UN, and the world bank. 

 

The left loves to brand anyone who disagrees with their ridiculous one world view of what they want other countries to adhere to as racist, xenophobic, facsist, and whatever other vacuous inane blather they think they want to come up with.

 

They have the unfounded high minded pseudo intellectual arrogance that they think they have the right to decide what a sovereign nation should do to satisfy their ridiculous virtue signaling nonsense. 

Leftists?  Methinks you've lost the plot.  What a rant.

[Jeffr2]

12 hours ago, Casesrisingpanic said:

Antifa is a fascist violent crime syndicate, try to keep up. 

You really need a better source for your information.  Do some research on Antifa.  Hardly a crime syndicate.  Unless you get your info from Fox, OANN, Newsmax, etc.

[LarrySR]

3 hours ago, runamok27 said:

Not sure where you went but things are all good everywhere I've gone. Your fearmongering is comical.

The FBI & DHS crime report says right wing inspired terrorism quadrupled since 2018 and hate crimes increased an average 236% in the counties where Trump Rallies were held. 
The FBI data showed the number of offenses targeting Blacks rose to 2,755 from 1,930 and incidents against Asians jumped to 274 from 158.

Threats against US lawmakers more than doubled in 2021. 

Election officials told a congressional committee Tuesday they’ve received graphic threats to their safety since they declared the results of the 2020 election and warned that pressure on election workers is a threat to democracy.

Recently a Bugaloo Boy (right wing extremist) was convicted of posing as AntiFa protester and shooting up a police station. 
 

Edited November 14, 2021 by LarrySR

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, LarrySR said:

The FBI & DHS crime report says right wing inspired terrorism quadrupled since 2018 and hate crimes increased an average 236% in the counties where Trump Rallies were held. 
Threats against US lawmakers more than doubled in 2021. 

Election officials told a congressional committee Tuesday they’ve received graphic threats to their safety since they declared the results of the 2020 election and warned that pressure on election workers is a threat to democracy.

 

Hillary had it right, they are "the deplorables".

[Jeffr2]

My wife was actually nervous about traveling back to the US.  Seattle and Denver are pretty good areas, but she refused to go to the Southeast.  Too many right wing nutters there.

 

But I'm sure all these incidents have been done by Antifa. LOL.  I'm sure that's what Fox News is reporting.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027236499/anti-asian-hate-crimes-assaults-pandemic-incidents-aapi

More Than 9,000 Anti-Asian Incidents Have Been Reported Since The Pandemic Began

[LarrySR]

48 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Hillary had it right, they are "the deplorables".

They are victims of the behavioral science marketing in the right wing media ecosystem.

Sure, we would like to think they are all just a bunch of gullible hillbillies and fruitcakes, but it worries me that some of them are actually intelligent.

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

Only when used against the weak minded ... sadly, more than a few of them about.  Like 99% of the world population, or we wouldn't be in the mess we are.

 

What ever happen to 'free thinking' ???

[ozimoron]

10 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

They are victims of the behavioral science marketing in the right wing media ecosystem.

Sure, we would like to think they are all just a bunch of gullible hillbillies and fruitcakes, but it worries me that some of them are actually intelligent.

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

They're not that intelligent. They believe in conspiracy theories, the big lie, that global warming is not man made and that coronavirus is a hoax. There's no rational argument that these people are actually intelligent.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

They're not that intelligent. They believe in conspiracy theories, the big lie, that global warming is not man made and that coronavirus is a hoax. There's no rational argument that these people are actually intelligent.

How about yourself, are you intelligent ?

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How about yourself, are you intelligent ?

I never think about it. It's not important to me. Never taken an IQ test. But I do recognise dumb as doggy doo when I see it. I just described who fits that description.

Edited November 14, 2021 by ozimoron

[LarrySR]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How about yourself, are you intelligent ?

Smart people don’t go around telling people how smart they are. 

Morons know all the answers. 

[blackprince]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How about yourself, are you intelligent ?

Well there is definitely a correlation between lower levels of education/information and right wing consipracies. But I'd rather not get into pejoratives about intelligence. And the left wing aren't immune either.

 

By the way, Mick McManus v Johnny Kwango London late 60s with my mum. She loved the wrestling!

[Jeffr2]

15 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

They're not that intelligent. They believe in conspiracy theories, the big lie, that global warming is not man made and that coronavirus is a hoax. There's no rational argument that these people are actually intelligent.

The intelligent ones are profiting off the use of this propaganda, like Tucker Carlson, etc.  Sad some fall for the BS.

[Speedhump]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You're joking right?

Thankfully someone else has posted a more intelligent reply with which I can engage. You're in weekend 'disengage brain' mode, right? 

[Stargeezr]

I am just a Canadian born Male, who is a geezer.  

  I am one  of the NLGBTQXYZ , but, not Binary people.

I have traveled globally and back, mostly to Hong Kong, China, and other parts of Asia

 as far south as Singapore, and Guatemala. So I really do not know what that makes me.

Geezer

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/13/2021 at 12:26 PM, Jeffr2 said:

Wow.  That word really has become politicized by the far right.   Kinda like all the other school grade words they're throwing around. Seems to be a slur against jews also.  Insane.

 

We live in a global society.  So everyone, like it or not, is a globalist.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/the-origins-of-the-globalist-slur/555479/

Despite the seemingly joking use of the term “globalist” by Trump and Mulvaney, many were quick to point to the word’s unseemly past as an anti-Semitic slur, embraced in alt-right circles before spreading into broader political discourse. As the Anti-Defamation League’s Jonathan Greenblatt put it, “Where the term originates from is a reference to Jewish people who are seen as having allegiances not to their countries of origin like the United States, but to some global conspiracy.” Greenblatt said it’s “disturbing” when public officials “literally parrot this term which is rooted in prejudice.”

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/globalist

someone who believes that economic and foreign policy should be planned in an international way, rather than according to what is best for one particular country :

He is a globalist, whereas we are nationalists who will put our country first.

She is critical of the president's globalist foreign policy.

I'm reasonably well read and definitely interested in politics, but that is so far out there that if I even heard of it I dismissed it as nonsense.

I certainly don't think it's a "real" thing.

 

Didn't take long for this thread to get diverted into some very weird weeds.

Edited November 14, 2021 by thaibeachlovers

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, Speedhump said:

Thankfully someone else has posted a more intelligent reply with which I can engage. You're in weekend 'disengage brain' mode, right? 

No. I just found it hard to believe that there were people unaware of the connection between using globalist (especially when Soros is mentioned) as a slur and antisemitism. 

[Jeffr2]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm reasonably well read and definitely interested in politics, but that is so far out there that if I even heard of it I dismissed it as nonsense.

I certainly don't think it's a "real" thing.

 

Didn't take long for this thread to get diverted into some very weird weeds.

It's a real thing.  The Atlantic is a great media outlet.  Highly respected and they do some great articles.  Lean left for sure, but that's not necessarily bad.

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

I am just a Canadian born Male, who is a geezer.  

  I am one  of the NLGBTQXYZ , but, not Binary people.

I have traveled globally and back, mostly to Hong Kong, China, and other parts of Asia

 as far south as Singapore, and Guatemala. So I really do not know what that makes me.

Geezer

A cool dude?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

The intelligent ones are profiting off the use of this propaganda, like Tucker Carlson, etc.  Sad some fall for the BS.

That man is evil.

[ozimoron]

Nationalists are the definition of anti-globalists. This is what an anti-globalist looks like.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-flynn-2655547552/

[Mac Mickmanus]

40 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

I am just a Canadian born Male, who is a geezer.  

  I am one  of the NLGBTQXYZ , but, not Binary people.

I have traveled globally and back, mostly to Hong Kong, China, and other parts of Asia

 as far south as Singapore, and Guatemala. So I really do not know what that makes me.

Geezer

Are you from an ethnic minority though ?

 

 

[Jeffr2]

20 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nationalists are the definition of anti-globalists. This is what an anti-globalist looks like.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-flynn-2655547552/

One of the many nutters in the last administration.  Terrible.  And even worse is some actually like what he says.  Riling up the masses...horrible.

[Speedhump]

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No. I just found it hard to believe that there were people unaware of the connection between using globalist (especially when Soros is mentioned) as a slur and antisemitism. 

Looking for slurs where maybe none is intended. Soros is the definition of a globalist. Surely it's oversensitive to avoid the precisely correct word in case some readers take offence. 

 

Anyway, I asked a question and you gave a puerile reply. That was my only point. 

[Speedhump]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm reasonably well read and definitely interested in politics, but that is so far out there that if I even heard of it I dismissed it as nonsense.

I certainly don't think it's a "real" thing.

 

Didn't take long for this thread to get diverted into some very weird weeds.

Yes, and even the full Oxford English Dictionary (best in the world, IMO) doesn't contain any mention of this definition of the word. So, only understood by triggered US hyper-politicals at both ends of the spectrum, I imagine. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Speedhump said:

Looking for slurs where maybe none is intended. Soros is the definition of a globalist. Surely it's oversensitive to avoid the precisely correct word in case some readers take offence. 

 

Anyway, I asked a question and you gave a puerile reply. That was my only point. 

Soros is not the definition of globalist. Soros does indeed come from the left. Pro globalist sentiments are in no way limited to the left. There are significant pro and anti globalist factions on the right and left.

 

Others have mentioned that globalization has damaged many people in the world. It has also been beneficial.to many and certainly not limited to elites.

 

As globalism is a fact of life and not going away I think the wise thing is to advocate for policies that maximize the benefits and minimize the damage. Obviously easier said than done.

 

Relating to this topic I think that expats (as opposed to refugees) are a group.that has benefitted from globalism for the most part. As this here is an expat forum, I thought that was worth discussing. Again I find the cases of expats expressing extremist anti globalist rhetoric to be interesting cases of hypocrisy.