webfact Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 The Royal Thai Air Force F-5 fighter jet, which crashed into a rice field in Chai Badan district of the central province of Lop Buri last Friday, struck a large bird, according to Air Vice Marshal Prapas Sornchaidee, the RTAF’s spokesman. He said that the pilot, Wing Commander Suthimet Ouamdee, who suffered injuries after he ejected from the plane, wrote to his wife telling her that he had to eject from the jet after a hard object struck and broke the cockpit windshield, splashing blood all over the cockpit and making it impossible for him to control it. AVM Prapas explained that the jet was flying at an estimated 1,000 km/hour, which blasted air and debris through the broken windshield, making it impossible to save. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/crash-of-thai-air-forces-f-5-fighter-jet-may-have-been-caused-by-bird-strike/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-12-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Saving face are we now? OK, let's go with the "large bird" story... 2 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Hope that the pilot recovers OK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingkenny Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Air brake failure. 3 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ezzra said: let's go with the "large bird" story... Big Bird Edited December 6, 2021 by SAFETY FIRST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HAPPYNUFF Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Wonder what his phone reception to his Mia Noi was at 1000 kmh? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post silver sea Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, ezzra said: Saving face are we now? OK, let's go with the "large bird" story... 37 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Big Bird Readers, who are British, of a certain age, will remember 1982: collisions with big birds can sometimes happen apparently, with tragic results ???? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454382/For-time-25-years-fomer-SAS-man-tells-Falklands-tragedy-killed-20.html Edited December 6, 2021 by silver sea 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 caused by bird strike What were they striking for ? Better pay , a cap on bird seed prices ? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 it happens https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/58422 I watched this plane crash. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, ezzra said: Saving face are we now? OK, let's go with the "large bird" story... How do you know that it is untrue? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingstonkid Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Working with Jet fighters and pilots I can attest that the one thing they hate the most is seeing a flock of birds. A bird strike will damage a cockpit and can down a plane. many airfields have noise emitters that scare the birds away. It is the same for passenger jets the time from when you are taking off until you have reached altitude or from altitude to landing is the scariest as you have no idea what might be flying around out there. If he says a bird hit him believe it. The only other thing that Canadian pilots hate is winter and lots of snow. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, kingstonkid said: Working with Jet fighters and pilots I can attest that the one thing they hate the most is seeing a flock of birds. A bird strike will damage a cockpit and can down a plane. many airfields have noise emitters that scare the birds away. It is the same for passenger jets the time from when you are taking off until you have reached altitude or from altitude to landing is the scariest as you have no idea what might be flying around out there. If he says a bird hit him believe it. The only other thing that Canadian pilots hate is winter and lots of snow. Thank you, spot on. 22 years in the RAF and I've known a few bird strikes, fortunately none fatal. And I'm sure everyone here remembers this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-handley-page-hp95-hastings-c3-darwin Edited December 6, 2021 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: a large bird We all know that a flock of birds can bring down a plane, but this article reads 'a large bird'. Sounds extremely unlucky if that's the case Must have been big bird Edited December 6, 2021 by SAFETY FIRST 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: it happens https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/58422 I watched this plane crash. Watched this one take off, an hour past the scheduled landing was informed it would not be coming back. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/55369 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: We all know that a flock of birds can bring down a plane, but this article suggests 'a large bird'. Sounds extremely unlucky if that's the case It would have to be a large, relatively heavy bird to penetrate a jet fighter's windshield. They are pretty tough. All bird strikes are unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Moonlover said: It would have to be a large, relatively heavy bird to penetrate a jet fighter's windshield. They are pretty tough. All bird strikes are unlucky. Mostly they get pulled into the fan. Darwin has some of the highest incidents of bird strike in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, ezzra said: Saving face are we now? OK, let's go with the "large bird" story... Would you have made the same childish comment if this was an incident involving your home country's air force? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Moonlover said: It would have to be a large, relatively heavy bird to penetrate a jet fighter's windshield. A small bird will do it. The energy in a small object, hit at 500mph is substantial. Remember, a piece of foam brought down a Shuttle when it hit at around that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said: A small bird will do it. The energy in a small object, hit at 500mph is substantial. Remember, a piece of foam brought down a Shuttle when it hit at around that speed. The small piece of foam did not bring down the shuttle, it came off during the launch. Its loss left a break in the protective heatshield which resulted in a fatal overheating in the belly of the spacecraft during re-entry. I've seen the results of several bird strikes during my time in the RAF. Only large birds have caused significant damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Moonlover said: The small piece of foam did not bring down the shuttle, it came off during the launch. Its loss left a break in the protective heatshield which resulted in a fatal overheating in the belly of the spacecraft during re-entry. I've seen the results of several bird strikes during my time in the RAF. Only large birds have caused significant damage. You are missing the point. The foam punched a hole in the wing leading edge , which eventually brought the shuttle down on re entry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, Moonlover said: It would have to be a large, relatively heavy bird to penetrate a jet fighter's windshield. They are pretty tough. All bird strikes are unlucky. As a 17yo my first introduction to crash recovery was collecting bits of body and aircraft around the F111 crew module impact site. A pelican had taken out the nav on a low level bombing run. The aircraft was nearly upside when the module ejected. We found the navs helmet 5 kms back from the impact site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, Moonlover said: It would have to be a large, relatively heavy bird to penetrate a jet fighter's windshield. They are pretty tough. All bird strikes are unlucky. I think the 1000 kph is more of a factor than the size of the bird. When working for the airlines, more than few windshields have to be replaced, delaying flights. At least it wasn't blamed on a drone ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: How do you know that it is untrue? Because fat, old, miserable, bitter, retired falangs, who lost all their valuables to a bargirl who they thought will love them forever, but in reality was only after their money, duh, always know what’s true and what isn’t! ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said: We all know that a flock of birds can bring down a plane, but this article reads 'a large bird'. States 'a large bird', but doesn't state flock of or lack of flock. While out birding, I've seen my share of low and high flying flocks. Same photo, just one cropped in a bit. Along with < 10 way up circling, and not exactly close. That he didn't see or notice the rest is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: He said that the pilot, Wing Commander Suthimet Ouamdee, who suffered injuries after he ejected from the plane, wrote to his wife telling her that he had to eject from the jet after a hard object struck and broke the cockpit windshield, splashing blood all over the cockpit and making it impossible for him to control it. I preferred the "Miracle on the Hudson ending" at least he hung-in-there" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, silver sea said: Readers, who are British, of a certain age, will remember 1982: collisions with big birds can sometimes happen apparently, with tragic results ???? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454382/For-time-25-years-fomer-SAS-man-tells-Falklands-tragedy-killed-20.html I was aged 23 and remember it all too well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 minute ago, hotchilli said: at least he hung-in-there well he didn't have much of an option did he, no ejection seats in an airliner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Moonlover said: Thank you, spot on. 22 years in the RAF and I've known a few bird strikes, fortunately none fatal. I was on Buccaneers in Germany early 70s, being low level a/c bird strike were fairly common. I took a team to recover one in the north that had landed at a German base from a bird strike. Something about the size of a pigeon had penetrated the radome and smashed up the radar set. Pilot said he was glad it didn't hit the windshield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: We all know that a flock of birds can bring down a plane, but this article reads 'a large bird'. It doesn't have to be a flock, and anything bigger than a pigeon would be a large bird, as opposed to a sparrow. The aircraft was on a live firing competition so wouldn't have been very high giving the pilot very little time to react to a windscreen penetration. Windscreen/canopy strikes (and especially penetrations) were much more common during cruise flight than during operations at or near aerodromes. During cruise, windscreen strikes were reported in 28 of 83 cases for which the part struck was reported (Table 8). At least 18 of these involved windscreen penetration, and in at least 4 more cases windscreen shattering or obscuring was a major contributing factor. "Cruise" includes flights on weapons ranges. https://www.lgl.com/images/pdf/Richardson_1996_BSCE-London.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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