Screws found in 2 of my tyres. Should I replace all 4?

[davidst01]

A month ago I noticed there was a screw lodged in my front left tyre. Took it to the tyre place and they pulled it out and plugged it up for 100 baht. 

 

Last week I was getting my annual service done. The guy showed me the rear left tyre also had one. I told him about the front left. 

 

He said I couldn't order the same brand and had to go for a different brand/ same size. I said I would take 2. Oh no he says 'you must replace all 4' because one cant have 2 new tyres at the front (one brand) and 2 old ones (another brand) at the rear. 

 

Is this correct or a load of bullocks? 

thanks

[OneMoreFarang]

Correct, at least that is what I learned in more civilized countries. 

[In the jungle]

Is it four wheel drive?  What is the vehicle?  What are the tires and their sizes?

[KhunLA]

Bullocks, especially if same tires.  Put new in the front, and old in the rear.  Hope they were worn and actually need replacing, screws / plugged or not.  Wouldn't discard tires just because plugged.

[EVENKEEL]

I'm running with one plugged and one had a screw through sidewall area and needed a hot patch. Bout 4 yrs old and I'll replace all 4 when I do anything.

[pgrahmm]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm running with one plugged and one had a screw through sidewall area and needed a hot patch. Bout 4 yrs old and I'll replace all 4 when I do anything.

Personally, I wouldn't trust any sidewall patch - even a hot boot...The sidewalk is designed to roll & flex to keep the tread surface constantly flat against the ground....It could roll that patch right off of there .....

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, davidst01 said:

He said I couldn't order the same brand and had to go for a different brand/

Don't understand that, sounds like just wants more of your money.

[Saanim]

3 hours ago, davidst01 said:

he says 'you must replace all 4'

This is what I always hear in the tire shop when repairing a puncture by a screw. Wondering whether they don't have a hidden agenda? ????  

[soi3eddie]

BS. You could have 4 different branded tyres and so long as all were in good order, rotation correct and had sufficient tread then no problem. I try to go with matching pairs on each axle. Sidewall repairs should not be done due to flexing. 

 

[Albert Zweistein]

Look on the internet for the same brand or go to another workshop.

[bbko]

6 hours ago, davidst01 said:

Is this correct or a load of bullocks? 

It's 50/50, mixing tyres is a bit of a gamble.  If the front two are the same make/model and the back two the same as each other but different from the fronts, do you think rolling down the motorway @ 100kph with different fronts and backs is safe?  Every tyre is rated for different speeds, traction, rain, etc.  Best to have the same make & models on all 4, trying to mix & match is risky.

Edited December 18, 2021 by bbko

[itsari]

4 hours ago, bbko said:

It's 50/50, mixing tyres is a bit of a gamble.  If the front two are the same make/model and the back two the same as each other but different from the fronts, do you think rolling down the motorway @ 100kph with different fronts and backs is safe?  Every tyre is rated for different speeds, traction, rain, etc.  Best to have the same make & models on all 4, trying to mix & match is risky.

Not only risky but illegal in many countries

[steve187]

9 minutes ago, itsari said:

Not only risky but illegal in many countries

which countries is that

 

[itsari]

6 minutes ago, steve187 said:

which countries is that

 

Norway for one 

[EVENKEEL]

9 hours ago, pgrahmm said:

Personally, I wouldn't trust any sidewall patch - even a hot boot...The sidewalk is designed to roll & flex to keep the tread surface constantly flat against the ground....It could roll that patch right off of there .....

Been driving for 2 yrs with the hot patch, due to age it's time for some new ones and some new rims to spruce up the old girl.

[Gsxrnz]

On my Formula 1 car I prefer to have all four tyres matching.

 

On my Hilux I'm happy if the tyres are round and black.

[fangless]

6 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

On my Hilux I'm happy if the tyres are round and black.

I am not colour prejudiced so am happy with tyres of any colour as long as they are round!

[G Rex]

The service guy saw that 2 of your tyres had screws in them.

Now he is trying to screw you.

Both front tyres , and both rear tyres should have similar wear and same size/tread pattern - however the front and rear sets do not need to be the same.

I would be buying 2 new tyres and put them on the front, and put your remaining good original tyres at the rear.

[seedy]

7 hours ago, bbko said:

 Best to have the same make & models on all 4, trying to mix & match is risky.

Hogwash.

Same size, same load rating, what could be the difference ? Tread pattern ? Mystical mind vibes ?

Edited December 19, 2021 by seedy

[yeahbutif]

Well I think BS.   As long as the tyres on the same axle are the same size.  Eg 245/70/16. The makes of the tyres not important....as for old and new tyre where to put most people put the new ones on the back as They Will last longer best to buy 4 if you can then they can be rotated.... But make sure tracking is done or you could wear out the front ones Very easy..... .

[Johnny Mac]

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but just a quickie (as the actress said to the bishop)

 

Ford Everest, April 2018 60000km on clock, is it the right time to change the tyres? The wife says yes (of course) but I'm not convinced, and really would rather not spend the coin right now...

[yeahbutif]

One more point ..did you know there is a manufacturer date on the tyres? The code is two numbers together.the first number is how many weeks.  Eg if it was 10 it would be mid march... followed by the year. Eg 14  2014..........now this is important I see some cars still good tread. But over 10 years old... WE all know what Happens to rubber here.

[G Rex]

11 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but just a quickie (as the actress said to the bishop)

 

Ford Everest, April 2018 60000km on clock, is it the right time to change the tyres? The wife says yes (of course) but I'm not convinced, and really would rather not spend the coin right now...

If the tyre wear is even, not scrubbed on the shoulders, and not worn beyond the tread wear markers then they should be ok for now. 

60K clicks - wow! - you must drive much more sensibly than I do - my tyres are shot well before this.  I corner hard, so always wear my front tyres on their shoulders.  

[keithkarmann]

18 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but just a quickie (as the actress said to the bishop)

 

Ford Everest, April 2018 60000km on clock, is it the right time to change the tyres? The wife says yes (of course) but I'm not convinced, and really would rather not spend the coin right now...

Just changed the tyres on my Almera after four years and 85000km. Why did I change them as they still had some life left? Decision was made due to age. 

[Johnny Mac]

6 minutes ago, G Rex said:

If the tyre wear is even, not scrubbed on the shoulders, and not worn beyond the tread wear markers then they should be ok for now. 

60K clicks - wow! - you must drive much more sensibly than I do - my tyres are shot well before this.  I corner hard, so always wear my front tyres on their shoulders.  

But maybe the tyres are shot? I'm really not an expert when it comes to detecting when tyres need replacing or not, but I suppose logically at 60k plus they will need changing in the not too distant?

[Johnny Mac]

3 minutes ago, keithkarmann said:

Just changed the tyres on my Almera after four years and 85000km. Why did I change them as they still had some life left? Decision was made due to age. 

You mean after 4 yrs they should be changed regardless?

[G Rex]

23 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

You mean after 4 yrs they should be changed regardless?

If the tyres are cracked due to long exposure to sun and heat, there is a case for this. 

I have a garaged vehicle with tyres that are 6 years old, and less than 10K wear on them. They are in good condition - and at 12k Baht (each) I will not be replacing them until it is necessary! (due to wear , rather than age). 

[Henryford]

27 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

You mean after 4 yrs they should be changed regardless?

I only do 3000 kms a year so after 4 years that's only 12,000. But i changed them anyway after 6 years.

[Johnny Mac]

14 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I only do 3000 kms a year so after 4 years that's only 12,000. But i changed them anyway after 6 years.

Ok, so there isn't a yes or no answer to my question is there, it just depends. But seeing as I am talking with the founder of Ford motors I will take your advice.

[4MyEgo]

17 hours ago, Saanim said:

This is what I always hear in the tire shop when repairing a puncture by a screw. Wondering whether they don't have a hidden agenda? ????  

That's strange, I had a screw in the same rear tyre twice in one year, plugged both times at Maxxis, 150 baht each time, no mention of replacing tyre or tyres, purchased all 4 of them from them about 16 months ago.

 

I do know what you mean about some wanting to make money off of you prematurely, someone tried that with the battery, which lasted for another year, that was the 1st tyre guy I purchased my tyres off at 90,000 clicks, he didn't get repeat business from me did he ????

 

The above said, a farang told me that plugging the tyre/s back home is illegal and that I should replace the two rear tyres, I said <deleted>.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by metisdead
Profane acronym removed.