The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Cheap for Thais. We're marks. How much were you or anybody you know charged? It's dirt cheap plus you get medical help and support and don't infect people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said: And in the UK and Thailand. NHS records can be changed for about 200 pounds.. How does that show that tests in Israel can be faked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 So much interest in this misbehaving Israelite. I can't help wondering if the interest would be as keen if he was . . . .Swiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: How does that show that tests in Israel can be faked ? Some people have a "feeling" about what goes on with Israeli Jews. Quelle surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Sure thing. Its not as if you actually have any evidence that Israeli Jews usually get special treatment here. Israelis are highly respected here in Thailand by the authorites. They have close diplomatic relations and economic partnerships. Many Thais use their agricultural skills working on the Kibbutz system. Israelis take more care of their citizens than the Brits or Americans. Saudis and Kuwaitis also have influence here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: How does that show that tests in Israel can be faked ? Tests can be faked anywhere. Please don't be obtuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, The Hammer2021 said: Tests can be faked anywhere. Please don't be obtuse! Yes ,tests faked in Thailand or Israel . Who will benefit from this faked tests ? The Jews or the Thais ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Foghorn said: Just like the 2 cruise ships that are full of ONLY vaccinated people ,passengers and crew , which both now have COVID outbreak of over 50 people I guess your reading comprehension is not very good. What part of 'it doesn't stop it 100%' are you having problems comprehending? Also, do you know how many thousands of people are on a cruise ship? And in abnormally close quarters. See if you are not soup-brained you can start critically thinking about these things and not reading click-bait alarmist headlines only. Let's look at why vaccines are good, at, reducing death rates: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination Edited December 23, 2021 by PremiumLane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Why would you assume its political? False positives and negatives aren't exactly super rare. He [the Israeli tourist] arrived, entered Test & Go... did his PCR test, then left the hotel (did a runner ? or just walked out and was allowed by the hotel ? (report that hotels have been allowing guests to leave here). His PCR (1) test was positive. His absence was reported to Thonglor Police who issued an arrest warrant. The Israeli Tourist travelled to Pattaya and then to Samui. He [the Israeli] took a test (2) in Samui, the result was negative. He [the Israeli] handed himself in while still in Samui and another (official) test (3) was taken, this was also negative (as reported here). Then news is released this evening (reported here) that the sample taken in Samui was trasported to Bangkok where it was tested again, the result was positive for Omicron. ---------- Why would I assume the positive Omicron test is political ???????..... I base this assumption on the manner in which officials operate in Thailand - They are playing the game to refocus the optics in their favour rather than holding greater concern for truth. There have been reports of SHA++ hotels allowing guests to leave before the PCR results are issued - did he really escape ? Following reports that the Israeli tested negative with the tests he took in Samui there was / is a lot of discussion regarding false positives and the costly reaction / requirements. From the perspective of social medial this removed the ‘heat’ from the Israeli Tourist and re-directs it towards Thailands testing procedures (i.e. re-directs the attention towards the authorities). The discovery that the swab result was in fact positive and not only for Covid-19, but for the Omicron variant re-focuses the heat very firmly on the Israeli tourist and once again away from the authorities. I’m rather cynical when something such as this conveniently occurs and plays into the very hands of those hoping for a little deflection. Edited December 23, 2021 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Here is my prediction. This tourist will be deported and blacklisted. Most likely he won't be imprisoned. It would be bad PR for Thailand to lock up tourists based on health violations. Nothing at all with him being Israeli or conspiracy theories about magical Israeli Jewish power in Thailand. Edited December 23, 2021 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes ,tests faked in Thailand or Israel . Who will benefit from this faked tests ? The Jews or the Thais ? I don't like your belligerent, possibly racist tone. Please stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Jingthing said: Here is my prediction. This tourist will be deported and blacklisted. Most likely he won't be imprisoned. It would be bad PR for Thailand to lock up tourists based on health violations. Nothing at all with him being Israeli or conspiracy theories about magical Israeli Jewish power in Thailand. I think thats the most likely outcome. I’m ignoring the ‘Israeli / Jewish’ comments, none make any sense, neither are any of the ‘discussed issues’ likely to come into play at all. I would be interested to know exactly what this ‘escape’ involved. There have been reports of SHA++ hotels allowing their guests to leave before the results of the PCR tests are known. Was the guy simply told he could leave any time after he takes his PCR test ???? I wouldn’t exclude this as a possibility given Thailands propensity for those in positions to make decisions and offer advice not to know the regulations. Did this guy realise he was in the news.... became worried, took a PCR test which was negative, handed himself in (in Samui), they took another test, which was negative. Then all seemed ok, nearly, apart from the ‘escape’ part - which simply may have been the hotel saving face. Then of course there is the issue of ‘positive’ then ’negative’ tests.... something with this whole story is rather questionable - the Israeli guy himself may not have known he was doing anything wrong when he left the hotel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Here is my prediction. This tourist will be deported and blacklisted. Most likely he won't be imprisoned. It would be bad PR for Thailand to lock up tourists based on health violations. Nothing at all with him being Israeli or conspiracy theories about magical Israeli Jewish power in Thailand. I am pro Israel. I do not subscribe to racist or anti Semitic conspiracy theories. Nor do I promote them. I oppose them. Perhaps you should take neutral comments at face value without projecting your conspiracy theories on to them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said: I am pro Israel. I do not subscribe to racist or anti Semitic conspiracy theories. Nor do I promote them. I oppose them. Perhaps you should take neutral comments at face value without projecting your conspiracy theories on to them.. Promoting tropes of Jewish control is extremely questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: I think thats the most likely outcome. I’m ignoring the ‘Israeli / Jewish’ comments, none make any sense, neither are any of the ‘discussed issues’ likely to come into play at all. I would be interested to know exactly what this ‘escape’ involved. There have been reports of SHA++ hotels allowing their guests to leave before the results of the PCR tests are known. Was the guy simply told he could leave any time after he takes his PCR test ???? I wouldn’t exclude this as a possibility given Thailands propensity for those in positions to make decisions and offer advice not to know the regulations. Did this guy realise he was in the news.... became worried, took a PCR test which was negative, handed himself in (in Samui), they took another test, which was negative. Then all seemed ok, nearly, apart from the ‘escape’ part - which simply may have been the hotel saving face. Then of course there is the issue of ‘positive’ then ’negative’ tests.... something with this whole story is rather questionable - the Israeli guy himself may not have known he was doing anything wrong when he left the hotel. For the record my I never mentioned Jews. Somebody else didbto inflame things. I was referring to the idea that some nations use their influence to look after their citizens. I wish mine did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Promoting tropes of Jewish control is extremely questionable. I did not. I never mentioned jews. You did. I also referred to Saudis and Kuwaitis. Anyway you got no right to sit in moral judgment over me. It's pure arrogant entitlement on your part. You seek offense when there is none. You don't fool me but perhaps yourself. You owe me an apology. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, The Hammer2021 said: For the record my I never mentioned Jews. Somebody else didbto inflame things. I was referring to the idea that some nations use their influence to look after their citizens. I wish mine did Israel is the one Jewish state in the world. I'm sure you weren't referring to Palestinian Israelis having special power in Thailand. Your claimed intentions are irrelevant. Promoting tropes is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Israel is the one Jewish state in the world. I'm sure you weren't referring to Palestinian Israelis having special power in Thailand. Your claimed intentions are irrelevant. Promoting tropes is not good. Be careful. Some people might take what you are saying as bigoted based on your mind reading ability. lol. You are being silly. I have clearly statd my position and intention. Save your outrage for something worthwhile. You are aware that Israelis include Christians and Muslims who all get equal diplomatic support. to be honest..you sound a bit damaged. My Israeli Pals are proud of their country's loyalty to their citizens when travelling abroad..I don't won't to rebuke you but I expected better from you and foolishly perhaps, some original thought not knee jerk victimhood...Not a living 'trope'. Take care and take time to read what I wrote, not what others wrote or ascribed to me or what you think I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said: Be careful. Some people might take what you are saying as bigoted based on your mind reading ability. lol. You are being silly. I have clearly statd my position and intention. Save your outrage for something worthwhile. You are aware that Israelis include Christians and Muslims who all get equal diplomatic support. to be honest..you sound a bit damaged. My Israeli Pals are proud of their country's loyalty to their citizens when travelling abroad..I don't won't to rebuke you but I expected better from you and foolishly perhaps, some original thought not knee jerk victimhood...Not a living 'trope'. Take care and take time to read what I wrote, not what others wrote or ascribed to me or what you think I meant. Some of my best friends are ... Think what you want. You asserted something that you couldn't prove. Having good high level diplomatic relations is not the same thing as having the power to demand and get special treatment for every Israeli in trouble in Thailand. To add many self described "friends" of Israel also happen to be the same people broadcasting tropes. There is a most famous one like that recently in the news who I won't mention. Edited December 23, 2021 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, BritManToo said: He didn't have COVID, what treatment do you think he should have had? And how much do you think he should have paid for the treatment he didn't need? 100,000bht, 200,000bht? He did have Covid, a third test confirmed that. stop spreading BS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: 11 hours ago, BritManToo said: He didn't have COVID, what treatment do you think he should have had? And how much do you think he should have paid for the treatment he didn't need? 100,000bht, 200,000bht? He did have Covid, a third test confirmed that. stop spreading His first test returned positive (he’d already left the hotel before the result was issued). He tested negative twice in Samui. The same ‘test swab’ was sent to Bangkok for further testing and was found to be positive for Omicron (if that can be believed). So.... its 2:2 positive to negative at the moment. He really should be afforded an independent test but is that possible when there may now be an agenda behind ensuring this guy is positive ? The agenda being that the authorities did well saving the masses from this guy rather than oops we had a false positive...... And the authorities now have someone to blame for a domestic outbreak other than porous borders !!!!.... Edited December 23, 2021 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jingthing said: It's fiction. And you know this for sure? How? Edited December 23, 2021 by sambum Additional text 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Jingthing said: So it's Omicron and its likely he spread it here because it spreads like spreading is going out of style. But he's no.patient zero. It was already here. You say "it's likely he spread it here" and then you say "it was already here"??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinok Powell Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 3:29 PM, The Hammer2021 said: No more than the farangs who catch covid and won't go into quarantine because they, like so many expats, think they are superior to Thais. What a stupid comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said: Then I'm even more sorry for you. It must be hard to realize that flogging is no option anymore in civilized countries. No need to feel sorry for me, and it is not hard at all for me to know that flogging unfortunately isn't an option in the "civilized" world, but it should be for guys like him! I don't wanna know how many people he infected with the Omicron variant while he was on the loose. If one is as inconsiderate and selfish as he is and willingly risks the life of other people just so he can enjoy his fricking holiday, you know, the one he shouldn't be on to begin with during a global pandemic, instead of staying in quarantine then the punishment needs to be severe in my book. The West has become way too soft. Playing nice doesn't work. Time to step up the game. By the way, I really don't care what you think of me for having that opinion! If it makes you think of me as a caveman then so be it! Edited December 23, 2021 by pacovl46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 12 hours ago, aguadilla said: this is the Person:https://il.linkedin.com/in/ohad-baruch-7b3a8253 So much for any medical confidentiality. The report published here did not name him, has he forgone any perceived or real right to medical confidenitality because he contravened the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 177 replies and 7 pages and its all because the man did what millions others are doing, walking among us un-vaccinated, with millions others refusing to be vaxxed, traveling to countries marked to be red over run with hundreds of thousands of infected people both aware of if or not and coming back to infect others, and Oh, he got picked on and mocked because he's a Jew/Israeli, who said that antisemitism is dead?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ezzra said: 177 replies and 7 pages and its all because the man did what millions others are doing, walking among us un-vaccinated, with millions others refusing to be vaxxed, traveling to countries marked to be red over run with hundreds of thousands of infected people both aware of if or not and coming back to infect others, and Oh, he got picked on and mocked because he's a Jew/Israeli, who said that antisemitism is dead?... What utter nonsense! . This has nothing to do with antisemitism. There would be the same comments, if the man was British, German, American or whatever. More concerning than your "antisemitism"-BS is the tar and feather mentality some hysterical idiots show. Edited December 24, 2021 by JustAnotherHun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said: What utter nonsense! . This has nothing to do with antisemitism. There would be the same comments, if the man was British, German, American or whatever. More concerning than your "antisemitism"-BS is the tar and feather mentality some hysterical idiots show. Read the posts buddy, comments like crucify him and put him in jail with Arabs and Iranians would not have been made had he was a "if the man was British, German, American or whatever".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkT63 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 5:04 PM, Liverpool Lou said: Apart from the associated medical treatment, costs for what? Legal costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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