Why would I want to move my family from a poor country to a rich country?

[SiSePuede419]

In America people often ask me if I have plans to move my family from Thailand to America.

 

They assume life for them will be better in America.

 

Aside from being a world leader in technology, education, marriage equality and cannabis legalization, there's not much advantage in the U.S. for a Thai family.

 

Sure, if you're educated and have a great job you can make "big money", but my 2 year old is not going to qualify for many jobs at the moment.  He likes to turn light switches on and off, but there's not much need for that on the employment market.

 

Sure, my wife could get a job in her former occupation, Human Resources but who's going to watch the kid? 

 

There's no affordable child care in America. POVERTY.

 

And there's lots of homeless people in America.  POVERTY.

 

Healthcare is a privilege in America, not a right.  POVERTY.

 

In Thailand, when I give a 10 baht tip to a delivery driver, they try to give it back thinking I overpaid.

 

In America, I've ordered food using UberEATS and had to pay a $10 fee, plus I give a $10 tip on top.  Then the drivers sometimes show up in a BMW or Tesla.  POVERTY.

 

How do you explain to dumb Americans that it's not all about wages and the quality of life is better in a country like Thailand?

 

Thank you Thailand!  ????????

[RedArmy]

Life is about 2 things.

 

Health & Happiness.

[aussiexpat]

What has this got to do with getting a visa for Thailand?

 

...in fact what has this got to do with anything?

[sezze]

Idk about US , but from Thailand to the western world , in general you do get more quality in just about everything . Meaning , if you buy something , large chance it does not break down after 1 time use , and if it does , it is returned easy and repaired/refunded . The air is cleaner , the officials aren't as corrupt , there's a lot less rubbish on the streets . If you hire somebody , most of the time , he actually knows what he is doing .

All that comes with a price , meaning , life is more expensive over there , you need to follow a lot more rules and things like that .

The advantage of coming from a richer country to a poorer country is that in fact you are living more free , your money stretches a lot further .

[RichardColeman]

41 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Sure, if you're educated and have a great job you can make "big money", but my 2 year old is not going to qualify for many jobs at the moment.  He likes to turn light switches on and off, but there's not much need for that on the employment market.

That 2 year old may well believe you have destroyed a potentially better education and a more free and better future for you own reasons to stay in Thailand. Maybe you are thinking about you, not him

 

42 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Sure, my wife could get a job in her former occupation, Human Resources but who's going to watch the kid? 

How about you ? 

[RandiRona]

I am confused , is it a sarcasm or real contemplation?

[bluebluewater]

All those things you have labeled as "poverty" are things that YOU as an adult American male need to work to avoid, work around, and overcome to provide for your family so that they can enjoy the good stuff about America.  Many millions have done it and are doing it everyday.  If you are now living full time in Thailand that might suggest that you have all ready done it once and are now enjoying those efforts in that country and do not want to make that effort again.  Fair enough.  But you will have to do much the same in Thailand in order to take care of your child.  It will be different but not necessarily better. 

[Jerno]

USA world leader in Education?  Sorry my friend, that ain't so. Almost every Western country has better Education and better educated citizenry.

[Guest Isaanlife]

Your post is senseless and suggests you must be lower income?

 

There's no affordable child care in America. POVERTY.

Complete BS, it all depends where you live. There are more lower income areas in America than higher income areas.

 

And there's lots of homeless people in America.  POVERTY.

There is a lot of homeless people all over the world and in Thailand as well; so what?

 

Healthcare is a privilege in America, not a right.  POVERTY

You obviously have no clue how healthcare works in America. Why don't you explain how much insurance you have in Thailand and how much that costs you, with a policy we can verify your statement?

 

In America, I've ordered food using UberEATS and had to pay a $10 fee, plus I give a $10 tip on top.  Then the drivers sometimes show up in a BMW or Tesla.  POVERTY.

 

Why not just pick up the food yourself? Too poor for your own car? If the driver is working and earning a living, what concern is it of yours what kind of car they are driving? You support the service and the outrageous tip for them to buy the car.

 

It sounds like you are bitter and moved to Thailand because you couldn't afford to live in your own country, probably no advanced education and are jealous of people that work and have a better car or earn more than you?

 

Quality of life is better in Thailand

 

Do you live in an ocean front mansion in Thailand? I didn't think so.

 

 Do you live in a Penthouse Condo in downtown Bangkok? I didn't think so.

 

Do you think your quality of life is better than all the rich people have it around the entire world? Of course not.

 

There a millions of people around the world in every country that have a quality of life you will NEVER EVER reach. Fact!

 

You have a better quality of life in Thailand because it is all you can afford. 

 

Instead of being so bitter, accept the truth. 

 

Anyone with one ounce of common sense would read right through your post.

 

Quality of life is ALL dependent upon money.

 

Millionaires have a hell of lot better quality of life than you will ever have; no matter there they live.

 

You certainly didn't end up in Thailand because your rich, but understand one thing? Whether Thailand or not, rich people will always have a better quality life than you.

 

Maybe you need to open your eyes to all the expensive cars, houses, beach properties, penthouse suites, etc. in Thailand and compare your quality of life to those folks?

 

Are you jetting off to Aspen this winter? Monte Carlo? Beverly Hills?

 

I didn't think so. Your definition of quality of life is ONLY what you can afford.

 

PS. There are a ton of rich Thai families in the USA. Lots of Thai families with their own businesses, driving a Benz, own their own large properties, have their kids in US Colleges. Better quality of life in the US than you can afford in your country.

 

Try looking in the mirror before being so bitter.

 

People reap what they sow from their education and hard work ethic.

 

If you could afford the USA, you would have a better quality of life. At least people would speak your own language and you could read the street signs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2021 by Isaanlife

[Guest Isaanlife]

1 hour ago, RedArmy said:

Life is about 2 things.

 

Health & Happiness.

All too often a person never realizes how important health is, until they get old.

 

Good health is the key to happiness!

[spidermike007]

We are in the US right now, and if you have anything related to customer service, the wait times are 10-90 minutes. Never seen it this bad. And prices on nearly everything are skyrocketing. They claim it is due to a labor shortage. Doubt it. Likely more about corporate gouging. Covid is merely an opportunity to these cretins.

 

Don't consider a move back here unless you have buckets full of cash. 

Edited December 30, 2021 by spidermike007

[mstevens]

15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

We are in the US right now, and if you have anything related to customer service, the wait times are 10-90 minutes. Never seen it this bad. And prices on nearly everything are skyrocketing. They claim it is due to a labor shortage. Doubt it. Likely more about corporate gouging. Covid is merely an opportunity to these cretins.

 

Don't consider a move back here unless you have buckets full of cash. 

When I look at prices for all manner of goods on Amazon in the US they are so much cheaper than what you find in Thailand. Prices might be going up but it’s a worldwide thing and happening everywhere. 

[sirineou]

2 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

In America, I've ordered food using UberEATS and had to pay a $10 fee, plus I give a $10 tip on top.  Then the drivers sometimes show up in a BMW or Tesla.  POVERTY.

 Even those in  "POVERTY"  drive BMWs and Teslas. Not too bad if you ask me 

 

2 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Aside from being a world leader in technology, education, marriage equality and cannabis legalization, there's not much advantage in the U.S. for a Thai family.

 

 

[ScamperAZ]

15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

We are in the US right now, and if you have anything related to customer service, the wait times are 10-90 minutes. Never seen it this bad. And prices on nearly everything are skyrocketing. They claim it is due to a labor shortage. Doubt it...

I don't know to which "wait times" you refer, but there is most certainly a labor shortage across the US. In my small town two favorite restaurant closed due to lack of staff. That's not due to corporate gouging. Typically it's the small business owners unwilling to pay a living wage. So of course if supply is low and demand is high, prices rise.

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, mstevens said:

When I look at prices for all manner of goods on Amazon in the US they are so much cheaper than what you find in Thailand. Prices might be going up but it’s a worldwide thing and happening everywhere. 

And of belter quality, and one day delivery, and world class customer support, and good guaranty .

[sirineou]

2 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

How do you explain to dumb Americans that it's not all about wages and the quality of life is better in a country like Thailand?

Certainly not with the above sentence.

????????  

[ezzra]

2 hours ago, RedArmy said:

Life is about 2 things.

 

Health & Happiness.

Make it only good health, if you have good health, everything else will follow, and it goes specially for the not so young anymore among us...

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, RedArmy said:

Life is about 2 things.

 

Health & Happiness.

+ Health cover & money of course ????

 

[sirineou]

In Thailand you get a little rocket icon over you avatar!!

try and get that in America.????

[Smithson]

Poverty and lack of compassion is a huge problem in the US 

 

[mvdf]

3 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Aside from being a world leader in technology, education, marriage equality and cannabis legalization, there's not much advantage in the U.S. for a Thai family.

 

Give me time to recover from coffee I spluttered on after reading the above. Cough cough..

 

One of the worst of hallucinatory claims I've read.

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Isaanlife said:

Millionaires have a hell of lot better quality of life than you will ever have; no matter there they live.

Former millionaire her (barely), 

My quality of life is much better here in Thailand with a lot less, than it was in the UK with a lot more.

Maybe America is different, but there was nothing better in the UK for me, that I have here.

A much younger woman in my bed, and warm weather every day is worth more than anything.

 

Would also point out my 4 former kids in the UK are unhappy and struggling.

My 2 kids in Thailand are so much happier.

Edited December 31, 2021 by BritManToo

[sirineou]

12 minutes ago, Smithson said:

Poverty and lack of compassion is a huge problem in the US 

 

 

 

[Andre0720]

While I like my life here in Thailand as an adult, I would not want to raise a child here.

All about culture.

How could I teach a child here about being responsible, for his or her actions, for his or her son or daughter, for learning about science and arts?

How could I teach a child that there are laws and regulations when driving on these roads, when everything around teaches the opposite?

How could I teach a child that people should be able to enjoy peace and quietness in their own home, when everything around teaches the opposite?

How could I teach a child that tobacco is a slow poison, while most believe that it is just a prerequisite to being an adult??

How could I teach a child that sugar is a slow poison, when it is just impossible to find a meal that does not contain sugar.

How could I teach a child that garbage belongs in a garbage bin, when it is so easier to just drop it on the ground?

And so on...

Culture.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Isaanlife said:

Do you live in an ocean front mansion in Thailand? I didn't think so.

Do you live in a Penthouse Condo in downtown Bangkok? I didn't think so.

Do you think your quality of life is better than all the rich people have it around the entire world? Of course not.

But the view from my window isn't that bad ......... (and my woman looks better than Bezos new woman).

[SiSePuede419]

2 hours ago, RandiRona said:

I am confused , is it a sarcasm or real contemplation?

Boy, you're a quick one.

[mikebike]

22 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

While I like my life here in Thailand as an adult, I would not want to raise a child here.

All about culture.

How could I teach a child here about being responsible, for his or her actions, for his or her son or daughter, for learning about science and arts?

How could I teach a child that there are laws and regulations when driving on these roads, when everything around teaches the opposite?

How could I teach a child that people should be able to enjoy peace and quietness in their own home, when everything around teaches the opposite?

How could I teach a child that tobacco is a slow poison, while most believe that it is just a prerequisite to being an adult??

How could I teach a child that sugar is a slow poison, when it is just impossible to find a meal that does not contain sugar.

How could I teach a child that garbage belongs in a garbage bin, when it is so easier to just drop it on the ground?

And so on...

Culture.

Uhm... the same way others here have raised bright, rational kids. By being a good role model and taking on the burden of teaching your kids the things that the culture and society here do not by yourself.

[Guest Isaanlife]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Former millionaire her (barely), 

My quality of life is much better here in Thailand with a lot less, than it was in the UK with a lot more.

Maybe America is different, but there was nothing better in the UK for me, that I have here.

A much younger woman in my bed, and warm weather every day is worth more than anything.

 

Would also point out my 4 former kids in the UK are unhappy and struggling.

My 2 kids in Thailand are so much happier.

Your history with your ex is well told and we can understand why you would defend your current quality of life.

 

When you lose everything, it tends to make a person bitter and irrational.

 

Kids in Thailand that did not come from wealth in general, have nothing to miss, so they are always happy.

 

What remains is if they will be happy when they are adults making 6,000/thb a month?

[Guest Isaanlife]

48 minutes ago, Smithson said:

Poverty and lack of compassion is a huge problem in the US 

 

Perhaps you should get out more?

 

Lack of compassion is prevalent in every single country in the entire world.

 

For you to single out 1 Youtube video only is foolish

[Andre0720]

6 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Uhm... the same way others here have raised bright, rational kids. By being a good role model and taking on the burden of teaching your kids the things that the culture and society here do not by yourself.

A few motherhood statement do not hide the fact that a very very large majority of 'others', as you name them, have failed at doing so here. They get used to it.