Brit 'tourist' murdered by scythe in Kanchanaburi - friend in hospital - loud music blamed

[DPKANKAN]

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

So there was no loud noise or disturbance to set the guy off ? Not saying that loud music deserves a barbaric attack like this but im guessing that if there was no loud music at 3am this might not have happened.

 

I am not justifying murder here but pointing out that you can <deleted> people off if you don't tone your music down. I seen Thai neighbors go at each other over music and I have bene pretty <deleted> off because of it too. Of course I never cut someone's head off. 

The killer had known mental health issues as stated and should not have been at large. Have you never had Thai neighbours playing music at night?? No warning he just came strait out and attacked them.????????

[NorthernRyland]

1 minute ago, DPKANKAN said:

Far from it. Fact.

Wasn't the guy in his 50's and drinking with loud music at 3am? Most people grow out of that in their 20s. The pictures looked like those lowest of the rung rentals that only students are other people down on their luck stay in. Not to judge the guy or anything but I think he was in a bad place (in more ways that one).

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

yes i hate the way they just pull out at junctions..cut me up i take a deep breath swear a lot .keep my hands off the horn because as you said these people are crazy when upset and don't think about their actions...some of the younger males here have lost the plot..keep calm see another day

Yes,  when driving and you've got a horn, better not to touch it when there are other vehicles , but you can touch it in secluded area when there's no one else about

[sawadee1947]

2 hours ago, car720 said:

foolish notion

No, it's a foolish NATION

[Harveyboy]

Killed because of Noise ..if i lost my rag with all the people here because of noise..loud music..revving cars and motorbikes at all hours  and their howling dogs day and id have been in the BKK Hilton long ago  the word control is not in the Thai language 

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, car720 said:

So he was a Tom.

It is a foolish notion to think that there is even a modicum of regard for life in Thailand.

He was not a 'Tom boy' His name was Tom..

[Mac Mickmanus]

14 minutes ago, robblok said:

So there was no loud noise or disturbance to set the guy off ? Not saying that loud music deserves a barbaric attack like this but im guessing that if there was no loud music at 3am this might not have happened.

 

I am not justifying murder here but pointing out that you can <deleted> people off if you don't tone your music down. I seen Thai neighbors go at each other over music and I have bene pretty <deleted> off because of it too. Of course I never cut someone's head off. 

Yes, but the response should be to politely go over and ask the guys to turn the music down a bit .

   Not going over there and killing them 

[Harveyboy]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes,  when driving and you've got a horn, better not to touch it when there are other vehicles , but you can touch it in secluded area when there's no one else about

i keep it for soi 6 lol 

[NorthernRyland]

5 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

The killer had known mental health issues as stated and should not have been at large. Have you never had Thai neighbours playing music at night?? No warning he just came strait out and attacked them.????????

They <deleted> off the wrong guy. I've been annoyed to the brink by loud music in Thailand but never snapped like this guy did.

 

The obvious lesson is to be respectful of your surroundings otherwise there may be consequences.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

"9 pm annoying the residents with loud noise from music." other witnesses .

You have to be careful ,even sounding your horn at another driver ,when

he's cut in front of you , can lead to injury or death, does not take much to

set them off , and many carry all kinds of weapons in their vehicles .but it

seems to have gotten worse in last few years.

regards worgeordie

Yep. We know this. I've been here 30 years and was warned never to mix it with Thais..In Pattaya  and the KSR there is incredible  tolerance to the vile behaviour  of farang but not in the sticks so much..

[globalspark]

Sad state of affairs in what should have been defused early in the night.Judging by the photos  the rooms are in a cheap  part of town and Farangs on a low budget.as I was not there  I cannot pass judgement but I would not have been happy listening to the music all night long and more so if I had to go to work next day which is the case for the locals.

We do not realise how cheap life is in  some countries and pissing of a local over some stupid  issue can result in  exactly what happened.We have all been guilty over  some stupid  issue like a taxi ripping us  off  from the airport, a  shop owner not giving the correct change. Sometimes it is best to suck it up and  say sorry and  move on.

[DPKANKAN]

9 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Wasn't the guy in his 50's and drinking with loud music at 3am? Most people grow out of that in their 20s. The pictures looked like those lowest of the rung rentals that only students are other people down on their luck stay in. Not to judge the guy or anything but I think he was in a bad place (in more ways that one).

The other guy was 50+.

That was just one of the places they lived. Because his best mate lived next door. Luckily he was self isolating either he could have done as well!!

[The Hammer2021]

16 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

The killer had known mental health issues as stated and should not have been at large. Have you never had Thai neighbours playing music at night?? No warning he just came strait out and attacked them.????????

Always expect  the unexpected

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I wonder whether the noise making was being done by felangs which caused the attack ?

You didn't read the story did you?

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The Thai media reported that a group of tourists had been drinking since 9 pm annoying the residents with loud noise from music.

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

There is a fair concensus of people here not insinuating but voicing the opinion the farang ignored repeated requests to turn their music down and at about 3am got attacked, deservedly so. I think people agree  a good beating was in order not decapitation. If the farangs had turned their music down and showed  some respect this incident  would not have happened.

That is what they think may have happened , which doesn't mean it actually did happen .

   Some people may think the felangs were asked to turn the music down , although that is just what they think might have happened .

   Some people are suggesting it was correct to attack the felangs ,because they think the Thai guy may have asked the felangs to turn the music down ?

   Facts are needed , not peoples insinuations 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

You didn't read the story did you?

 

 

You didnt read my whole post , did you .

Go back and read my whole post and not just one sentence of it

Chopping my paragraph in half changed the context 

[Siamwhiteelephant]

"... murdered by scythe" "... loud music blamed". Only people can murder and be charged, not inanimate objects or sound. 'With' and 'triggered' would be among suitable words to use with these extraneous things. 

[Enoon]

42 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

He is in custody. Was taking in earlier today. It was my Thai wife's cousins boyfriend who was murdered so I have access to quite a lot of information.

How much rent was he paying?

 

 

 

Edited January 22, 2022 by Enoon

[pagallim]

40 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

He is in custody. Was taking in earlier today. It was my Thai wife's cousins boyfriend who was murdered so I have access to quite a lot of information.

Photos of him being taken into the Police Station.

[kg1947]

2 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Well, RIP, but loud music at night lead me to pay my regular subsidy to local police, fortunately it works. Otherwise it could have ended up with bloodshed as well.

Some people just don't give a booboom about other people's well being, so this poor sod has been asking for it.

RIP

@Boomer6969.... you are a wise man , cost / benefit ratio is very clear here. whether a farang or local " <deleted> " .... always let the Boys in Brown .....

assist you in dealing with any annoyances , plus To Insure Prompt service you did the right thing ..... May you live safely in L.O.S. for a long time .....

Edited January 22, 2022 by kg1947
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[DPKANKAN]

3 minutes ago, Enoon said:

How much rent was he paying?

 

 

 

 

 

Don't know. But it was because his best mate lives there. They also stay in the village where I am now

[arick]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

"9 pm annoying the residents with loud noise from music." other witnesses .

You have to be careful ,even sounding your horn at another driver ,when

he's cut in front of you , can lead to injury or death, does not take much to

set them off , and many carry all kinds of weapons in their vehicles .but it

seems to have gotten worse in last few years.

regards worgeordie

Sounding your horn when they try to side swipe you and then pull in front of you and slam on their brakes in the middle of a three lane motorway.  Yes they are so Buddhist and loveky in Bangkok! With more army stickers on their cheap truck then you csn count 

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

I'm guessing these guys were lower class people judging by the circumstance and the location in the photos.

It looks like an everyday, ordinary sort of a place, in everday ordinary provincial Thailand, inhabitated by everyday, ordinary sorts of Thai people.

 

Me being an everyday, ordinary sort of bloke......I think it'd do me just fine.

 

 

Edited January 22, 2022 by Enoon

[norfolkandchance]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

My advice, never sit with your back to the door.

‘Wild Bill’ Hickok. Dead Man’s Hand.

[John Drake]

14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Always expect  the unexpected

What happens is people who have been here for some time tend to think they've figured it all out and take things for granted. Get a little too comfortable. Maybe it isn't the case, here, but it seems so in many of these farang-Thai confrontations (I put up a reminder about a similar story of a young British man who was chased by a Thai guy with a knife because the Thai guy wanted the British guy to buy him a beer; but it was taken down for some reason. But it's the same problem. Cultural assumptions and ways of dealing with foreigners that I would never think about fully understanding). The only place to be complacent is inside your own house by yourself. Some rules I  follow: avoid crowds, stay off the street late at night, don't go to places that might mix alcohol with any sort of social confrontation.

[Dont confuse me]

How many times has the 'boot been on the other foot' never heard ofvfalangs attacking a Thai because of loud music!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[roo860]

42 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Wasn't the guy in his 50's and drinking with loud music at 3am? Most people grow out of that in their 20s. The pictures looked like those lowest of the rung rentals that only students are other people down on their luck stay in. Not to judge the guy or anything but I think he was in a bad place (in more ways that one).

But you have just judged them.

[sambum]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

"9 pm annoying the residents with loud noise from music." other witnesses .

You have to be careful ,even sounding your horn at another driver ,when

he's cut in front of you , can lead to injury or death, does not take much to

set them off , and many carry all kinds of weapons in their vehicles .but it

seems to have gotten worse in last few years.

regards worgeordie

A couple of years ago I read on here of a guy getting shot because he parked in another guy's "regular" parking spot!

[jesimps]

There have been occasions here when loud noise has caused me to come very close to losing my self control. When the bass noise pressure is so powerful that it's acting like a weapon on your brain and no matter where in your house you go, you can't escape it, that's when I can imagine a person could snap. Especially at 3am. I'm not condoning this killing, but I can understand how this guy was driven to lose his rag. 

[IvorBiggun2]

I repeat what i said in another thread the other day. 'Where are the posters that claim Thais are a non confrontational race/people'.

Murder rate in Thailand is approx 3 times of what it is in the UK. Population being about the same. Thailand is a dangerous place to live. Don't believe the tourist hype. 

Edited January 22, 2022 by IvorBiggun2