Phuket assassins latest: Guns were owned by retired cop and soldier

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Picture Thai Rath

 

It has been revealed that the guns used to shoot an Indian with Canadian nationality in Phuket last week were owned by a retired police officer and a soldier. 

 

The weapons were found 20 meters off the beach and 150 meters from the scene of the crime, reported Thai Rath yesterday.

 

Investigations are underway to determine if the policeman and soldier had anything to do with the hit.

 

The brazen shooting of Jimi Singh Sandhu in Rawai on Friday was carried out by two men who have now fled Thailand and are believed to be in Canada, a fact admitted by RTP chief Pol Gen Suwat Chaengyodsuk after it was initially believed the assassins were still on the island or in Thailand. 

 

In latest developments it has now emerged that the two killers flew to Bangkok from Phuket International Airport where they arrived separately one hour apart on Sunday February 6th, two days after the shooting and one day after a maid found the body in the parking lot of a villa. 

 

They then boarded separate flights to Canada via Europe, it was previously reported. 

 

One of the men was caught on CCTV calmly strolling through Phuket airport dressed in blue jacket, dark shots, white sneakers and socks, face mask, carrying a large black shoulder bag. 

 

Thai Rath said he looked like a sportsman. 

 

Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol and the Canadian police in the next day or two to try and get the assassins arrested and brought back to Thailand. 

 

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[ChipButty]

Im not sure about this story, I mean why would you put yourself in the firing line? How did the police trace the guns back to them? 

[mokwit]

13 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Im not sure about this story, I mean why would you put yourself in the firing line? How did the police trace the guns back to them? 

Might have been legally registered. Guns are rented out for jobs. the alternative of course is that both the Policemen and the Soldier separately had their house broken into and their gun stolen............................

[edwinchester]

"Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol and the Canadian police in the next day or two to try and get the assassins arrested and brought back to Thailand."

 

Maybe the cops at Chalong can give their brothers in Bangkok a lesson on how to speed up the issuing of an International arrest warrant to Interpol so as to expedite the Red Bull farce.

[ChipButty]

33 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Might have been legally registered. Guns are rented out for jobs. the alternative of course is that both the Policemen and the Soldier separately had their house broken into and their gun stolen............................

You think too mut

[internationalism]

in yesterday's story they both travelled to bangkok by road and took a taxi to the airport.

There was a picture of one of them leaving taxi without any luggage.

I would not think that professional assassins wouldn't fly, as their name would be exposed. They had chance to leave Phuket immediately by bridge by any mean of transport, collect their luggage and travel to bangkok by road.

In the story above, the body was found in the parking lot, in another story in a swimming pool.

Basic facts don't match

 

Edited February 12, 2022 by internationalism

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, internationalism said:

in yesterday's story they both travelled to bangkok by road and took a taxi to the airport.

There was a picture of one of them leaving taxi without any luggage

Do you have a link to that?

[Henryford]

They threw the guns away 150 metres from the crime scene! Doesn't sound like a thing a professional hit man would do.

[internationalism]

4 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Do you have a link to that?

yes, edited and added. 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

Im not sure about this story, I mean why would you put yourself in the firing line? How did the police trace the guns back to them? 

The guns were legally registered, that's how registers work.

[Liverpool Lou]

18 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Maybe the cops at Chalong can give their brothers in Bangkok a lesson on how to speed up the issuing of an International arrest warrant to Interpol so as to expedite the Red Bull farce.

There is no such thing as an "international arrest warrant".  Red Notices, information about which is not generally available to the public, have been issued regarding Vorayuth, that has been confirmed several times.

[Liverpool Lou]

16 minutes ago, internationalism said:

in yesterday's story they both travelled to bangkok by road and took a taxi to the airport.

"Yesterday RTP chief Pol Gen Suwat Chaengyodsuk admitted they had travelled from Phuket to Bangkok and taken a taxi to Suvarnabhumi airport".

 

That says that they travelled to Bangkok, it doesn't say by road.  It does say that they took a taxi to Suvarnabhumi from Bangkok. 

[sammieuk1]

Police and army involved really unsurprising is it ????

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol and the Canadian police in the next day or two to try and get the assassins arrested and brought back to Thailand. 

They work quick when it is foreigners wanted for crimes.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Police and army involved really unsurprising is it ????

As I have stated before, wouldn't surprise me that the foreigner angle is being worked to cover up for the real suspects.

 

How do two foreigners get their hands on Police and Army handguns anyway?

 

As usual the facts are difficult to establish because of the incompetence of the Thai Police and the poor standard of journalism here.

[ChipButty]

11 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Thai Police and the poor standard of journalism here.

Im thinking the same, even the story about the car was half cocked 

[trainman34014]

Policemen and Soldiers sell a lot of Guns in Thailand; well known in The Villages in the North.

[mtls2005]

3 hours ago, Henryford said:

They threw the guns away 150 metres from the crime scene! Doesn't sound like a thing a professional hit man would do.

 

Yeah, it was also reported that they left their brass (shell casings) and emptied both clips. 

 

But maybe they wanted it to look local/unprofessional?

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol and the Canadian police in the next day or two to try and get the assassins arrested and brought back to Thailand. 

 

Not holding my breath on this one.

 

 

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, Henryford said:

They threw the guns away 150 metres from the crime scene! Doesn't sound like a thing a professional hit man would do.

Sounds like they were trying to muddy the waters knowing the guns were registered to someone else.

[kingstonkid]

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

They threw the guns away 150 metres from the crime scene! Doesn't sound like a thing a professional hit man would do.

Actually sounds very professional.  If you think about it salt water will ruin any fingerprints, guns were not registered or traceable to them.  

 

What would you do carry them around with you?

 

I am willing to be that the trail from the soldiers and policeman is a long one.  They sold to someone who gives a good price and then resells them.

 

That person gets an email saying that there is someone looking for weapons and sells to them.

 

In Canada the system works somewhat like that only the registered guns are usually stolen.  but there are always middle people that are dealers.  You very rarely find someone that sells a gun directly to a hit person.

 

As to them not cleaning up I am sure that while the hit was the main focus that there was also a message to be delivered with the hit to others.

[spidermike007]

Fascinating that the gun belonged to a man who had affiliations with the two most corrupt, morally bankrupt, and unethical organizations in Thailand. The RTP and the army. One can make a weak argument that the police serve a minor function here. Barely. But the army? What exactly do they do, besides drain the treasury of the nation, hold the country back, retard progress and increase poverty? 

Edited February 12, 2022 by spidermike007

[BKKBike09]

18 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I am willing to be that the trail from the soldiers and policeman is a long one.  They sold to someone who gives a good price and then resells them.

It says in the Thai original that the gun owned by the retired policeman (in his 70s) had been pawned to someone military, while the other gun was owned directly by someone military. It's not uncommon here for people to pawn a gun and that's how many legally registered weapons end up being used for criminal purposes. Each weapon has a permit specific to that weapon and the individual named as owner. It's illegal to have in your possession a gun that's not properly registered in your name (as an aside - e.g. foreigners who 'own' a gun but it's actually in their wife's name) so, what's a pawn shop owner, or anyone who's taken a gun from someone as collateral for a loan, to do when the registered owner can't/won't repay the loan / dies etc? They can't legally sell it because it's not in their name and they shouldn't have it in the first place. Hence these guns get sold on illicitly without, of course, the legal owner necessarily being any the wiser. 

[LikeItHot]

5 hours ago, edwinchester said:

"Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol and the Canadian police in the next day or two to try and get the assassins arrested and brought back to Thailand."

 

Maybe the cops at Chalong can give their brothers in Bangkok a lesson on how to speed up the issuing of an International arrest warrant to Interpol so as to expedite the Red Bull farce.

Interpol does not issue warrants. International or any other kind.

[LikeItHot]

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

 

How do two foreigners get their hands on Police and Army handguns anyway?

 

 

Go to the nearest 1%'r bar and ask for one with cash in hand 

[connda]

Ah-oh!  ????

[connda]

6 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Im not sure about this story, I mean why would you put yourself in the firing line? How did the police trace the guns back to them? 

Guns in Thailand are very controlled.  It can take weeks to obtain the paperwork for owning one.  So they know exactly who the gun was registered as the owner.
These guys better have had a police report filed claiming they were stolen. If they 'pawned' them - well - it's illegal.  You can't offload guns that are registered to you.  So, unless filed as stolen?  Big problem either way except getting busted for selling firearms would be better than murder.

Edited February 12, 2022 by connda

[connda]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Chalong police have been busy gathering evidence for the issuing of warrants to send to Interpol

Just hang out with the Red Bull "Boss" and they'll never find you! 

[wombat]

6 hours ago, mokwit said:

Might have been legally registered. Guns are rented out for jobs. the alternative of course is that both the Policemen and the Soldier separately had their house broken into and their gun stolen............................

number 2 is the winner

[mran66]

4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They work quick when it is foreigners wanted for crimes.

...or just work out an imaginary story to show quick action and solution. Perfect for a case like this where foreigners are the likely suspects and target was a foreigner that many people actually think would be better as dead... A chance to create impression of professionalism as no local hiso to worry about... 

 

Basically, the story in media sounds too simple to be credible. Impossible not, just too shallow. 

[Marley01]

6 hours ago, internationalism said:

in yesterday's story they both travelled to bangkok by road and took a taxi to the airport.

There was a picture of one of them leaving taxi without any luggage.

I would not think that professional assassins wouldn't fly, as their name would be exposed. They had chance to leave Phuket immediately by bridge by any mean of transport, collect their luggage and travel to bangkok by road.

In the story above, the body was found in the parking lot, in another story in a swimming pool.

Basic facts don't match

 

Yesterday’s story only said they travelled from Phuket to Bangkok and  caught a taxi to Suvarnabhumi.

 

 

“Yesterday RTP chief Pol Gen Suwat Chaengyodsuk admitted they had travelled from Phuket to Bangkok and taken a taxi to Suvarnabhumi airport.”