Improvements being made to Thailand Pass for convenience of travelers

[garyk]

6 hours ago, tlcwaterfall said:

Good post.

 

"If you are asymptomatic and do not fall in a risk category, you can self-isolate at your hotel or your own accomodation if you have one"

 

Could you please tell me if this is official policy or is it something that may or may not happen if you test positive and are asymptomatic? The threat of an expensive hospital stay not covered by insurance is potentially stopping many people from going to Thailand.

 

A link to the official policy would be appreciated.

Yes, I just saw a youtube guy that was taken to the hospital with no symptoms at all. He was pretty upset and not a happy camper.

[Homburg]

19 hours ago, EricTh said:

Just scrap that ridiculous so-called 'Test-and-go' which is a misleading term. The hotel quarantine and tests are ridiculously expensive.

 

I believe there is no quarantine for even one day in Philippines and Cambodia for fully-vaccinated tourists.

 

Can somebody confirm this?

For vaccinated and uninfected travellers I can confirm no quarantine for Cambodia, not even 1 day.  I arrived here yesterday from UK (via BKK) having decided that it was easier to visit Cambodia than Thailand.  A negative PCR test was required before departure from the UK and there was a free of charge rapid test on arrival (are you listening Thailand?).  No insurance needed for Cambodia, although $50,000 cover for Thailand was required JUST TO TRANSIT through BKK!  My test result on arrival in Phnom Penh was negative & so I am now free to tour Cambodia without any restrictions. Transit in BKK was more of a hassle than arrival in PNH tbh.  I get the impression that the Cambodian Government is trying to rescue the tourist industry.  I do not get that impression from the Thai Government, rather that they are trying to create the impression that they are trying to do what Cambodia is actually doing.

[thaiman]

16 minutes ago, garyk said:

Yes, I just saw a youtube guy that was taken to the hospital with no symptoms at all. He was pretty upset and not a happy camper.

please post a link to the video if you can

[thaiman]

8 minutes ago, Homburg said:

For vaccinated and uninfected travellers I can confirm no quarantine for Cambodia, not even 1 day.  I arrived here yesterday from UK (via BKK) having decided that it was easier to visit Cambodia than Thailand.  A negative PCR test was required before departure from the UK and there was a free of charge rapid test on arrival (are you listening Thailand?).  No insurance needed for Cambodia, although $50,000 cover for Thailand was required JUST TO TRANSIT through BKK!  My test result on arrival in Phnom Penh was negative & so I am now free to tour Cambodia without any restrictions. Transit in BKK was more of a hassle than arrival in PNH tbh.  I get the impression that the Cambodian Government is trying to rescue the tourist industry.  I do not get that impression from the Thai Government, rather that they are trying to create the impression that they are trying to do what Cambodia is actually doing.

which airlines are flying between cambodia and thailand?

[chickin]

20 hours ago, EricTh said:

Just scrap that ridiculous so-called 'Test-and-go' which is a misleading term. The hotel quarantine and tests are ridiculously expensive.

 

I believe there is no quarantine for even one day in Philippines and Cambodia for fully-vaccinated tourists.

 

Can somebody confirm this?

Test and go in Cambodia, rapid test at the airport. 

[sawadee1947]

21 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

live chat function

In Thai language only?

[Dukeleto]

I can see where this is going. This has been geared by the hotels to ensure any booking are made exclusively with them. This cuts out smaller guest houses etc. and makes sure the bigger hotels get all the incoming guests at this point.

[paul1804]

20 hours ago, ukrules said:

Yep, it's inevitable that it will one day go.

 

They're not attempting to keep covid out because it's already everywhere in Thailand so I have to wonder why they're bothering at all?

 

This entire farcial procedure which has destroyed the tourism industry is not in place to protect the country from covid so why are they doing it?

 

There must be a reason, there's always a reason

 

I just can't imagine what it is until I begin to think about the Thai relationship with China, then I begin to wonder who's in charge and setting policy because this is not helping Thailand in any way whatsoever.

 

Very soon pretty much nobody from Europe will be regarded as 'fully vaccinated' due to the period of time that has passed, what will they do then? Will they start insisting on quarantine again?

You are so correct, who is really pulling the strings of these puppets??

[spidermike007]

13 hours ago, arithai12 said:

ok it's excessively complicated, and should be scrapped. However some of your assumptions are wrong. The choice of hotel and price is yours, certainly there are options below 100$. You can have your day-5 test anywhere you want, not necessarily where you got the day-1 test. If you are asymptomatic and do not fall in a risk category, you can self-isolate at your hotel or your own accomodation if you have one.

I do not think you are correct. We shopped around, got a very simple hotel and paid 9,000 baht for the 1st nite, for a couple. Now a 2nd nite? It is just not worth it. Especially with the threat of a prison stint in a hospital at $3000, if you test positive, or are sitting too close to someone who does. What it your insurance turns you down, which is apparently happening to many?

 

Thailand has simply eliminated themselves from the face of worldwide tourism. Gone, baby gone. 

[Denim]

56 minutes ago, thaiman said:

please post a link to the video if you can

Maybe this ?  Read the comments

 

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by Denim

[Captain Monday]

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Canadian hitmen scoff at these "controls".

 

 

thailand needs to get back to suckling at the teat of the foreign tourist. 

 

They might keep a pre-departure COVID negative test, vaccination proof and insurance in place. All the other stuff: Day 1 & DAY 5, Thaialnd Pass/Test&Go/QR, will be dropped. Insurance will be dropped a bit farther out.

 

 

Testing and vaccination for years, Insurance is never going away imho how long was it mooted before? Some form of pre-travel authorization likely permanent. Hopefully they can make it easier and quick like the online portals of other certain countries I have experienced, and not so insecure to hacks

Edited February 17, 2022 by Captain Monday

[kimamey]

18 hours ago, ThailandGuy said:

As long as all the requirements like the SHA hotel on day 1 + 5, the extra covid insurance, the treat of being put in a covid hospital/hospitel exist i will not go to Thailand. I don't mind being tested. But having to pay a $100 usd per night for a mandatory hotel reservation just to get a pcr test? What if you are on day 5 in another part of Thailand? Do they expect you to travel all the way back? What if you test positive but you are asymptomatic? No thank you! I will, like many others just wait until they ease the entry requirements.

The test on day 5 can be in a different hotel although I can't see the point of it. 

[BusyB]

I don't care how easy it is to get a Thailand Pass. As long as the threat of a massive 'hospitel' bill with corresponding forced lock-up is hanging over me 5 days after I arrive because I've contracted Covid-19 locally, I'm simply not coming.

 

[pokerface1]

9 hours ago, peter zwart said:

As more and more countries go ahead towards a more normal situation its just a matter of time before Thailand will. Governments have to get used to the fact again that this "beautiful" tool for repression is coming to its end.

True enough however I think most Thais don't know whats happening in the rest of the world. There to busy just trying to survive so it will take months  before they end the restrictions 

So it's really better to call it THAI BY PASS until some common sense wackes them in the face

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, Homburg said:

For vaccinated and uninfected travellers I can confirm no quarantine for Cambodia, not even 1 day.  I arrived here yesterday from UK (via BKK) having decided that it was easier to visit Cambodia than Thailand.  A negative PCR test was required before departure from the UK and there was a free of charge rapid test on arrival (are you listening Thailand?).  No insurance needed for Cambodia, although $50,000 cover for Thailand was required JUST TO TRANSIT through BKK!  My test result on arrival in Phnom Penh was negative & so I am now free to tour Cambodia without any restrictions. Transit in BKK was more of a hassle than arrival in PNH tbh.  I get the impression that the Cambodian Government is trying to rescue the tourist industry.  I do not get that impression from the Thai Government, rather that they are trying to create the impression that they are trying to do what Cambodia is actually doing.

Thailand should follow Cambodia's example to save tourism.

 

 

[KhaoYai]

23 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

I have a horrible feeling that Thailand Pass may not be dismantled for a longtime to come.

The Hi-so's couldn't care less about their citizens, that doesn't put a great pressure on them to remove it.

The fact that the looney tunes opposition are even more extreme in their views means this theatrical charade ain't going anywhere soon.

Don't be too sure about that. They claim there have been 200,000 applications - that may or may not be true but whatever the true figure is, much of that will be people with wives, families and other connections to Thailand.  Once that surge is passed and they see that the actual amount of touristsdoesn't even scratch the surface of the tourism defecit, provided Covid cases are falling, I think they'll scrap Thailand Pass.

 

I think though that fully vaccinated will be a long term requirement.

 

I agree that they don't care about their citizens but in recent months some influencial business leaders have started complaining - they will have to take note of that.

 

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by KhaoYai

[PhineusFreek]

Myself and I'm sure a lot of other tourists would have no intention of going to Thailand with the current testing system. If you pay all that money to get there and what happens if you're positive with OMICROM on day 5 you gotta go into a quarantine for what? Remove these outdated rules and the tourists will come back

[PhineusFreek]

1 hour ago, pokerface1 said:

True enough however I think most Thais don't know whats happening in the rest of the world. There to busy just trying to survive so it will take months  before they end the restrictions 

So it's really better to call it THAI BY PASS until some common sense wackes them in the face

yes forget Thailand far too much hassle. Go to Cambodia instead

[CartagenaWarlock]

18 hours ago, NanaSomchai said:

Which is what it has always been; an elaborate and worthless scam.

It was not a worthless scam for me, at least. It served its purpose when I needed it for one percent of my available cash. Could I have done it cheaper? Yes, I could have but I don't buy a Ford Focus, instead of a Toyota Lexus always. 

[Spilornis]

5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

The new measure means that most arrivals not under the Vaccinated Travel Lane (VTL) scheme will face a seven-day isolation requirement, regardless of which country they are from.

Most flights into Singapore are VTL.

No demand for non VTL flights other than on transit routes where the concept is irrelevant.

Singapore loves rules but in this instance they're more relaxed than Thailand

[zzaa09]

On 2/16/2022 at 2:32 AM, John Drake said:

Improve it by getting rid of it.

There have been some odd rumours milling about of late that by March the TP/T&G [and test again]/revised edition will thrashed in place of a straight forward one time pre-flight PCR test and approved certification of vaccination.......and one is free to roam. 

 

A grain of salt is required to contemplate such things.

[Cherrytreeview]

Richard Barrow has announced the second Thailand Pass scam email in as many days directing to a website that asks for personal details.

[Lingba]

On 2/16/2022 at 6:08 AM, ukrules said:

Yep, it's inevitable that it will one day go.

 

They're not attempting to keep covid out because it's already everywhere in Thailand so I have to wonder why they're bothering at all?

 

This entire farcial procedure which has destroyed the tourism industry is not in place to protect the country from covid so why are they doing it?

 

There must be a reason, there's always a reason

 

I just can't imagine what it is until I begin to think about the Thai relationship with China, then I begin to wonder who's in charge and setting policy because this is not helping Thailand in any way whatsoever.

 

Very soon pretty much nobody from Europe will be regarded as 'fully vaccinated' due to the period of time that has passed, what will they do then? Will they start insisting on quarantine again?

agree

 

[maltwhisky]

Came through from Manchester today (17th) 

Delays checking various countries requirements meant 50+ min delayed departure at Manchester.

Doha checking all Thai requirements, 20 min delayed departure.

Suva airport less than 10 mins at Thai Pass area + 10 mins at immigration

Wasn't that bad as both planes were rammed 

[garyk]

Don't know if this is allowed , but here is a guy that was diagnosed with Covid with no symptoms. 

 

[zzaa09]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I do not think you are correct. We shopped around, got a very simple hotel and paid 9,000 baht for the 1st nite, for a couple. Now a 2nd nite? It is just not worth it. Especially with the threat of a prison stint in a hospital at $3000, if you test positive, or are sitting too close to someone who does. What it your insurance turns you down, which is apparently happening to many?

 

Thailand has simply eliminated themselves from the face of worldwide tourism. Gone, baby gone. 

The farce has expanded greatly beyond comprehension. 

Has little or nothing to do with the perception of health and well being.

Purely political at this stage. 

[Boyn]

23 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

The golden days of travelling to Thailand with your passport and credit cards is over for foreseeable future. I need to go one more time, may be in June/July time frame, to settle some issues in person before I call it goodbye Thailand forever, even if I have a 20 years Elite card. 

You are absolutely right it will never be how it was 10-15 years ago.i have now started the process for residency in Spain, with My Thai wife

[NanaSomchai]

1 hour ago, Boyn said:

You are absolutely right it will never be how it was 10-15 years ago.

Indeed he is. "That" Thailand has sailed away and the tourism industry with it, sadly.

 

1 hour ago, Boyn said:

i have now started the process for residency in Spain, with My Thai wife

I'd wager you're two years late to the party, but just like investing in Bitcoin, it is never too late to do so.

 

Also for what it's worth, in my case after almost 11 years straight spent in the Kingdom, the first 3 months back in Europe felt awful and tasteless, I almost sunk into depression. After being in that delusional imaginary World that Thailand has to offer, I thought I'd never make it without Thailand.

 

It took me about another 3 months, so 6 months in total to adapt and adjust my lifestyle back to being an European but now that the pink rose tainted glasses effect has worn off, I see Thailand for what it is; "A deceptive Kingdom made of false promises, empty dreams, fake love traded for full scams, full of lies and tricks".

 

Once you've settled in Spain and adjusted, you'll be well off and after a while you'll begin to see Thailand for what it is; the Land of Lies.

 

Welcome to the Party.

[Misterwhisper]

[daveAustin]

18 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Thankfully Thailand overall did far better than any of the countries you cited, Denmark had over 2x the per capita Covid deaths, France and UK, well over 6x. 

C’mon, you’ve half a brain. Thailand is well up with anywhere else in infections. It is not special and this thing spreads just as good wherever hoomans are. Only reason it ‘doesn’t’ is through lack of testing and agendas. For westerners to cite Thailand’s supposed ‘good score’ has to be a denial thing, trolling or just plain stoopidity. Which is it bruv?