Drinking on a Buddhist Holiday

[shackleton]

This subject of no alcohol on Buddhist holidays is brought up most times

People who live here know to buy the day before 

Plus  know where to buy if needed on the day concerned ????

[inThailand]

Do as the locals do, order another. 

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You are the enlightened one.

It takes time to reach this level of understanding.

Not enlightenment. Just a realisation that it really wasn’t fun or worthwhile anymore. 

[jak2002003]

57 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Not enlightenment. Just a realisation that it really wasn’t fun or worthwhile anymore. 

You are talking about getting drunk rather than drinking alcohol, right?

 

How could you say it isn't 'fun or worthwhile' to have a glass of good wine with a meal or a glass of fine brandy / whisky in the evening while relaxing watching the sunset or a good film?  

 

Drinking alcohol is not just downing beers at a bar and getting legless then waking up the next morning with a hangover.   People can actually enjoy alcohol sensibly, it does not have to be all or nothing.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tjintx]

I couldn't drink less yesterday.

[Bluespunk]

 

16 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

You are talking about getting drunk rather than drinking alcohol, right?

No.

 

17 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

How could you say it isn't 'fun or worthwhile' to have a glass of good wine with a meal or a glass of fine brandy / whisky in the evening while relaxing watching the sunset or a good film?  

Because it isn't and I don't require alcohol to enjoy those things.

 

18 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Drinking alcohol is not just downing beers at a bar and getting legless then waking up the next morning with a hangover. 

I know what drinking alcohol is.

 

18 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

 People can actually enjoy alcohol sensibly, it does not have to be all or nothing.  

Where did I say people couldn't? What others do is none of my concern, I simply pointed out my decision, something you seem to have taken umbrage with for reasons I really don't see.

[tomazbodner]

12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Ah, yes, but the saying (in American) .... 

 

"Definition of 'couldn't care less could care less'

couldn't care less could care less

or could care less

PHRASE

If you say that you couldn't care less about someone or something, you are emphasizing that you are not interested in them or worried about them. In American English, you can also say that you could care less, with the same meaning."

 

Next time, think before posting ... just a suggestion. ????

Bob's your Uncle

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/couldnt-care-less

 

There's only one English. Unfortunately, even 85% of British can't use it properly...

[tomazbodner]

15 hours ago, Edward Abbott said:

Although nowhere will (officially) sell booze today, there are places I know I can buy it of course.

 

Besides the risk of getting nicked, are the locals generally cool with farangs having a beer on their holy day? 

You're so going to hell!! I mean... getting reincarnated... No Nirvana for you, Sir!

Edited February 17, 2022 by tomazbodner
Just kidding

[BostonRob2]

15 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Again in a couple of days. The saying (in English ) is COULDN'T care less.

No.

 

What to Know

Merriam-Webster treats the phrases couldn't care less and could care less as synonymous, both meaning "not concerned or interested at all." "Couldn't care less" is the older and more obvious phrase grammatically, but it has been confused for so long that both are now defined. Additionally, the example sentence "it's impossible that [I] could care less" is the same as the intended meaning.

[Orinoco]

14 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

You're so going to hell!! I mean... getting reincarnated... No Nirvana for you, Sir!

Who cares about Nirvana.

I thought Alice in chains were better. 

[DefaultName]

Well, if I ever get to the stage of being unable to go a single day without a beer, things have gotten bad.

 

Respecting a Buddhist tradition in a Buddhist country costs nothing and shows respect.

[MrJ2U]

16 hours ago, Edward Abbott said:

are the locals generally cool with farangs having a beer on their holy day? 

As long as your buying.

[poohy]

My local village shop was selling beer to us

Thais were being served as well 

just a normal day it seemed

[KarenBravo]

Definitely have that beer!

Banning alcohol for non-Buddhists could be construed as imposing their religion on others.

Yes......have that beer.

[Troy Tempest]

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

There's only one English. Unfortunately, even 85% of British can't use it properly...

"American English" is an oxymoron! 

[ColeBOzbourne]

"I could care less." Try thinking outside the box a little as to what can be implied rather than the literal word for word meaning. Ranking all the things I care about from highest to lowest, this particular item may not be the absolute lowest, but it's close. So I COULD care less about it, there is that possibility, but not very probable, because it's way way down there towards the bottom. In that light, it means pretty much the same as "I couldn't care less", which is the absolute bottom. Not a huge difference, it still implies that it is not a high priority of importance. If you don't agree, I really "couldn't give a rat's A$$".

[Lite Beer]

Yep. Just do as the locals do and lounge around getting drunk. Whatever day it is.

[Sparktrader]

9 hours ago, Orinoco said:

Buddhist Holiday.

I think the Thai's are just Buddhist in name only.

The booze ban is just one more control measure over people.

and the people don't care for it any way.

Cheers.

True they even put Buddhas in the bin

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, Orinoco said:

Who cares about Nirvana.

I thought Alice in chains were better. 

Pearl Jam

[BTB1977]

I bought a cold beverage no problem 

[problemfarang]

7 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

None of us are 'trying to change things around', as you put it. We just talk about how silly and pointless the rules are. You know and I know and so does every foreigner know that we can't change anything. Doesn't mean we can't complain about stupid and hypocrisy.

 

So I think it is more that we question stupid rules. Thais have been taught from a very early age to obey without question, so they do. It's deeply ingrained. Then we come along and ask why do people bow to Buddhist belief that alcohol should not be consumed, but only on a few days of the year. Other days, no problem. If drinking alcohol is a Buddhist no-no on the 16th, why is it okay on the 15th and 17th? Of course it makes no sense and stinks of religious hypocrisy.

 

No-alcohol days are also pointless as it's yet another unenforceable law, something that is so much a fixture of Thailand. All it does is stop large stores selling on one day and deny certain businesses a day of trade. All to no real purpose.

 

well written comment, though dont you think actually what you are saying is trying to change the things. with your words 'a stupid rule' is a rule and many thai people respect and do. not trying to be offensive but i dont think it is our place to complain or call it 'a stupid rule' while living in another country... this is my opinion. 'a stupid thing' might be not 'a stupid thing' for another person. maybe you are right or not, but must respect. i remember my british father (he is an idiot) keep complaining about the things where i was born (my mother's country) and to be honest i hated that every time he was complaining. he also keep calling things 'stupid'. 

I think there are things we can make comments and talk on it, but there are things we just need to shut up and respect. We all know there are many rules here are funny, example is immigration things. 

All im trying to say is we must stop calling things 'stupid' unless its against our rights or others and respect and act properly, thats all. 1 day not drinking beer will not kill you. if it is... then you dont need a beer but a therapist. Like i said in my first years in thailand i was also like why i cannot buy, im not buddhist.. but later i have learned to respect. this is not a thing or rule will affect my life.. actually i like the thing, it shows us actually not to drink, rest your body, do something good for your health and so on.. 

there are things you really need to respect and one of them is religion. you practise or not, you believe or not but again i think we cannot make negative comments about it 'Of course it makes no sense and stinks of religious hypocrisy'.

lets not forget we are living in a buddhist country. doing this rule is showing a respect to people and the religion. It doesnt matter others are doing or not.. doesnt matter thais are doing or not. Many thai people throw garbage outside, are you doing that just because thais are doing it? Do you know how they feel and respect you when you stand up with them when the national anthem is playing? isnt it funny that everytime you must do that at the cinema? so what?! i can do that, i live here. the moment i entered to this country i accepted ALL. with goods and bads. 

im pretty sure you will reply my post with many things. and again this is my opinion. and i think how it must be, thats all. i know you cannot stop yourself and will give an answer to me, but it wont change my idea. so whatever you write next, i will not reply because obviously there is no end to this topic and probably we are both correct in some points.

 

thank you

Edited February 17, 2022 by problemfarang

[problemfarang]

4 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Well, if I ever get to the stage of being unable to go a single day without a beer, things have gotten bad.

 

Respecting a Buddhist tradition in a Buddhist country costs nothing and shows respect.

yep, totally agree and thats what im trying to tell. 

[connda]

20 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Good for you. 
 

Me, I don’t require it. 

It's a good thing when folks who have a problem are finally able to dry out and quit for good.  I applaud them! 
Then there are the vast majority who just want a social drink with their meal and find out that they can't get one due to a religious holiday that isn't part their own religious up-bringing.
Imho, all tourist should be able to get a beer or wine regardless of what day it is and at anytime they want one.
But that's just me.

[Bluespunk]

22 minutes ago, connda said:

It's a good thing when folks who have a problem are finally able to dry out and quit for good.  I applaud them! 
Then there are the vast majority who just want a social drink with their meal and find out that they can't get one due to a religious holiday that isn't part their own religious up-bringing.
Imho, all tourist should be able to get a beer or wine regardless of what day it is and at anytime they want one.
But that's just me.

Never had a drinking problem, just decided, social or otherwise, it just wasn't for me anymore.

[ericthai]

7 hours ago, problemfarang said:

 

well written comment, though dont you think actually what you are saying is trying to change the things. with your words 'a stupid rule' is a rule and many thai people respect and do. not trying to be offensive but i dont think it is our place to complain or call it 'a stupid rule' while living in another country... this is my opinion. 'a stupid thing' might be not 'a stupid thing' for another person. maybe you are right or not, but must respect. i remember my british father (he is an idiot) keep complaining about the things where i was born (my mother's country) and to be honest i hated that every time he was complaining. he also keep calling things 'stupid'. 

I think there are things we can make comments and talk on it, but there are things we just need to shut up and respect. We all know there are many rules here are funny, example is immigration things. 

All im trying to say is we must stop calling things 'stupid' unless its against our rights or others and respect and act properly, thats all. 1 day not drinking beer will not kill you. if it is... then you dont need a beer but a therapist. Like i said in my first years in thailand i was also like why i cannot buy, im not buddhist.. but later i have learned to respect. this is not a thing or rule will affect my life.. actually i like the thing, it shows us actually not to drink, rest your body, do something good for your health and so on.. 

there are things you really need to respect and one of them is religion. you practise or not, you believe or not but again i think we cannot make negative comments about it 'Of course it makes no sense and stinks of religious hypocrisy'.

lets not forget we are living in a buddhist country. doing this rule is showing a respect to people and the religion. It doesnt matter others are doing or not.. doesnt matter thais are doing or not. Many thai people throw garbage outside, are you doing that just because thais are doing it? Do you know how they feel and respect you when you stand up with them when the national anthem is playing? isnt it funny that everytime you must do that at the cinema? so what?! i can do that, i live here. the moment i entered to this country i accepted ALL. with goods and bads. 

im pretty sure you will reply my post with many things. and again this is my opinion. and i think how it must be, thats all. i know you cannot stop yourself and will give an answer to me, but it wont change my idea. so whatever you write next, i will not reply because obviously there is no end to this topic and probably we are both correct in some points.

 

thank you

Big difference in respect and forced participation.

Making someone observe a religious holiday has nothing to do with showing respect.

 

according to you Thai's need to respect my religion too. 

my wife's going to be happy when we only have fish on Fridays during lent.

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by ericthai

[Geordieabroad]

On 2/16/2022 at 9:55 PM, Bluespunk said:

Good for you. 
 

Me, I don’t require it. 

I don't require it, i just like it

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Geordieabroad said:

I don't require it, i just like it

Good for you and I never said you did, but as I say, not required by me. 

[jak2002003]

22 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

 

No.

 

Because it isn't and I don't require alcohol to enjoy those things.

 

I know what drinking alcohol is.

 

Where did I say people couldn't? What others do is none of my concern, I simply pointed out my decision, something you seem to have taken umbrage with for reasons I really don't see.

Ok.  I appreciate your personal decision, even if I can not relate to your views. 

 

I was not saying you needed wine or brandy etc in order to enjoy meals or relaxation.  Rather, my meaning was that it added to enjoyment of these things.  

 

It might get help you relax and chill out a bit to have one glass of sherry or port perhaps....as, I am not sure if you meant to or not, your responses to my post come across like you are angry and annoyed and have some hang up about the subject of alcohol. 

 

I could understand that if you have had a bad experience with it or it affected your life from being an alcoholic or having parents / partner who was alcoholic.  I am sorry if that was the case for you.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by jak2002003

[brewsterbudgen]

On 2/16/2022 at 10:13 PM, Meat Pie 47 said:

delicious fish and chips in Thailand?

Yes, Ban Chang is in Thailand.  It's in Rayong province.

[robblok]

37 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Ok.  I appreciate your personal decision, even if I can not relate to your views. 

 

I was not saying you needed wine or brandy etc in order to enjoy meals or relaxation.  Rather, my meaning was that it added to enjoyment of these things.  

 

It might get help you relax and chill out a bit to have one glass of sherry or port perhaps....as, I am not sure if you meant to or not, your responses to my post come across like you are angry and annoyed and have some hang up about the subject of alcohol. 

 

I could understand that if you have had a bad experience with it or it affected your life from being an alcoholic or having parents / partner who was alcoholic.  I am sorry if that was the case for you.

 

 

 

 

I find it strange if i tell you to take marijuana (if it was legal) so you could chill out would that not be strange. Why is is not strange when you tell people they need a drink to relax. Many people just don't need it.

 

I absolutely hate the taste of alcohol, so I never enjoyed it i drank it out of social pressure. I stopped that but seems that a lot of people who drink can't understand that some just don't. They think those people are boring or something like that. 

 

I have no parents who are alcoholics or bad experiences with alcohol besides the normal stupid things one does when drunk. I just don't like the taste. Some people just dont enjoy it its that simple. 

 

Alcohol is not needed and the research that says its healthy in small amounts is questionable. (that is not the same as saying its bad in small amounts).

 

Anyway people should be able to drink as much as they want when they want IMHO as long as they don't bother other people. 

 

Health wise a lot of people should drink a lot less but that is just a personal choice that people should make themselves and should not be forced upon them.

 

I know you replied to bluespunk but there are enough people who just dont need or dont like alcohol.