Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

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12 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

We’ll see

Your observations about Russia triumphing reminds me of Mark Twains joke about his prowess in a fight where he smashed an opponent's fist with his face.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:

We’ll see

They don't care about your sight. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

2 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

I think you’ll find that Russia will end up winning this war. It will be Ukraine and NATO asking for a negotiated settlement 

Based on what current trend or development?

[BarraMarra]

The Russians just wanted to run away that fast they left ammo that will be used against them amatuar and not an army that want to fight.

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

I think you’ll find that Russia will end up winning this war. It will be Ukraine and NATO asking for a negotiated settlement 

liked your sense of humor, it appears out of desperation but still funny  555

Ukraine troops enter centre of Kherson as Russians retreat in chaos

For Russia, the liberation of Kherson marked the latest, and most serious, of a string of battlefield defeats amid widely circulated images of Russian infantry hurrying to escape over a soon-to be-destroyed pontoon over the Dnipro River in the morning mist, as Russia’s defence ministry said it had withdrawn about 30,000 troops.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/11/reports-of-wounded-soldiers-being-abandoned-as-russia-retreats-from-kherson-city

 

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by Mavideol

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

We’ll see

you need to get up to date before looking/sounding like a fool

Zelenskyy praises Kherson's resilience but warns Russian soldiers: 'There's no point in hiding - we'll find you'

His warning for Russian "soldiers, mercenaries and collaborators" who were left behind in Kherson and other liberated southern cities was: "The only chance for salvation is for you to surrender to Ukrainian captivity.

"We guarantee that you will be treated in accordance with the law and international standards.

 

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/zelenskyy-praises-khersons-resilience-warns-033100803.html

 

[LosLobo]

4 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

I think you’ll find that Russia will end up winning this war. It will be Ukraine and NATO asking for a negotiated settlement 

I suggest that Russia is the one seeking a settlement at the moment and will eventually agree with Ukraine's demands.

 

Putin's loss of Kherson and the forecast economic cost of the war will seal Russia and Putin's fate.

 

Ukrainian forces raising their flag in central Kherson city on Friday

 

"Ukrainian forces raising their flag in central Kherson city on Friday cemented Russian President Vladimir Putin’s most consequential political and military defeat in his ill-fated, 8½-month-old war".

 

Loss of Kherson city shatters political goals of Putin's war in Ukraine - The Washington Post (googleusercontent.com)

 

Russia will lose the energy war Putin started.

 

"Things look dire for the Russian energy sector, which represents one-third of the country’s economy, around half of its fiscal revenue and roughly two-thirds of its exports. The International Energy Agency’s (IEA) latest forecasts now assume Russia’s annual receipts from energy exports will drop by more than half by 2030, all the way down to $30 billion from $75 billion before the war in Ukraine started".

 

Russia will lose the energy war Putin started – POLITICO

Edited November 12, 2022 by LosLobo

[rudi49jr]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I saw the video on Al Jazeera that apparently showed inside the city. It showed a large room full of munitions, presumably Russian. If the Russians are abandoning equipment that can be used against themselves something has gone very, very wrong in the Russian military. A retreating army usually blows up anything that could aid the enemy.

 

I saw footage of large stockpiles of ammo/shells left behind as well. Same thing happened around Lyman. It just shows that the Russian army is not nearly as good as everyone thought. Discipline is apparently very low, moral as well, and they don’t seem to give a toss if they have to leave all their equipment behind and run like hell to save their lives. Mind you, the commanding officers seem to be the first ones to haul @ss when the going gets tough, so they don’t exactly set a good example for their troops. 

[rudi49jr]

Banksy doing his art on the wall of a destroyed house near Kyiv:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck1bqL6MsMu/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=09ca451a-f26a-4307-a043-8ec8c1094665

[LosLobo]

 

New satellite images show a major Kherson bridge that was blown apart as Russian forces retreated from one of their biggest war wins.

 

"An early-morning explosion rendered inoperable last major bridge out of Kherson, the Antonivsky Bridge. New satellite images show large gaps in the structure, which was being used by Russian forces fleeing from the strategically important city in eastern Ukraine".

 

"A senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, wrote on Twitter that the bridge "was destroyed by Russian forces as they retreated." Prior to the Russian retreat from Kherson, Ukrainian officials accused Russia of destroying various bridges, the suspected aim being to slow the Ukrainian advance".

 

NB 

The Foreign Policy Research Institute (FPRI) is a nonpartisan Philadelphia-based think tank dedicated to strengthening U.S. national security and improving American foreign policy.

 

New satellite images show a major Kherson bridge that was blown apart as Russian forces retreated from one of their biggest war wins (msn.com)

 

 

 

 

[steven100]

They should have ambushed the Russian scum on their retreat and blasted every last one of them.

 

good job Ukraine   !!

[steven100]

On 11/11/2022 at 3:55 AM, bannork said:

'Ukraine as a state should not exist,'

 

who the hell is Jim Hanna ..... never heard of the clown  ?  some idiot out there sprouting bs .....   haha

[Bkk Brian]

Slava Ukraine

 

BREAKING: Scenes of jubilation on outskirts of Kherson

 

 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Slava Ukraine

 

BREAKING: Scenes of jubilation on outskirts of Kherson

 

 

So good to see all the videos of people being ecstatically happy to be liberated from the Russian oppressors. Russia and Putin keep maintaining it’s their territory, though. Completely bonkers. 

[rudi49jr]

Indeed: where are the 87% who voted for Russia?

 

 

[bannork]

Euphoria 

 

[coolcarer]

Ukraine cats had this sussed a long time ago and are taking it in their stride

 

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Euphoria 

 

How could watching this not bring a tear to the eye?

 

I wonder if Fox are showing similar for their GOP audience especially those ones who wish to reduce or withdrawn US support for Ukraine?

[rudi49jr]

22 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

How could watching this not bring a tear to the eye?

 

I wonder if Fox are showing similar for their GOP audience especially those ones who wish to reduce or withdrawn US support for Ukraine?

Indeed, I get quite emotional every time I see videos like this. And I really don’t care what those cowards on Fox are showing. 
 

I do know that Putin and his cronies were rooting hard for that ‘big red wave’ (and Prigozhin had been deploying his army of trolls for months to that end), but fortunately they didn’t get their way. Disaster averted. Two more years until the next potential disaster.

[Chelseafan]

17 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

I think you’ll find that Russia will end up winning this war. It will be Ukraine and NATO asking for a negotiated settlement 

 

Everyone has an opinion and I'd be interested to know why you think that ?

Unless there is a major reversal of policy by the US/NATO/EU/UK then I think it's highly unlikely, in the long run that Russia will win.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

 

Everyone has an opinion and I'd be interested to know why you think that ?

Unless there is a major reversal of policy by the US/NATO/EU/UK then I think it's highly unlikely, in the long run that Russia will win.

 

 

^Those Countries are not involved in the war

[Chelseafan]

18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

^Those Countries are not involved in the war

 Where do you think all the hardware is coming from ? Where do you think the sanctions are coming from ? Where do you think the policies to reduce dependance on russia oil/gas are coming from ?

Of course they are involved

 

[BarraMarra]

11 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

 Where do you think all the hardware is coming from ? Where do you think the sanctions are coming from ? Where do you think the policies to reduce dependance on russia oil/gas are coming from ?

Of course they are involved

 

So what if other countries are helping as long as they are not putting boots on the ground or using fighter planes? I bet if you got a message a gang was coming to your house you'd be ringing your mates for backup Chelseafan.

[ExpatOilWorker]

There is a video out of Wagner using a sledgehammer on one of their prison recruits for deserting.

Let's just say they got the message firmly through his thick skull ????. 

[Rimmer]

Russia’s Demolition Of Roadway Over Dam Seen In Incredible Video (Updated)

 

Footage shows Russian forces blowing the bridge at Nova Kakhovka Dam after fleeing the Dnieper’s western bank on November 11. 

 

The massive explosion left a huge cloud of smoke in its wake and brilliant secondary explosions at nearby transmission lines. Attacks on Russian positions in the nearby city reportedly continued after the bridge blew, as well. 

 

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-russias-demolition-of-roadway-over-dam-seen-in-incredible-video

 

[Phoenix Rising]

On 11/12/2022 at 9:42 AM, AndyFoxy said:

I think you’ll find that Russia will end up winning this war. It will be Ukraine and NATO asking for a negotiated settlement 

OK then Ivan.....

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/12/2022 at 8:54 PM, rudi49jr said:

I saw footage of large stockpiles of ammo/shells left behind as well. Same thing happened around Lyman. It just shows that the Russian army is not nearly as good as everyone thought. Discipline is apparently very low, moral as well, and they don’t seem to give a toss if they have to leave all their equipment behind and run like hell to save their lives. Mind you, the commanding officers seem to be the first ones to haul @ss when the going gets tough, so they don’t exactly set a good example for their troops. 

Given that the Russian military haven't been involved in a major conflict since they pulled out of Afghanistan I'm not surprised. I was in the military during and after the Vietnam war, and soon as the veterans got out the service went downhill fast to the point I had to leave it. Taken over by incompetents, bullies and blowhards.

[tgw]

On 11/12/2022 at 11:23 AM, steven100 said:

who the hell is Jim Hanna ..... never heard of the clown  ?  some idiot out there sprouting bs .....   haha

reading comprehension ... 0

[Chelseafan]

21 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

So what if other countries are helping as long as they are not putting boots on the ground or using fighter planes? I bet if you got a message a gang was coming to your house you'd be ringing your mates for backup Chelseafan.

I'm not sure why this post was aimed at me. I was simply replying to @Mac Mickmanus who stated that NATO/EU/USA/UK were not involved in the war when they bally well are.

 

[BarraMarra]

On 11/14/2022 at 12:21 PM, Chelseafan said:

I'm not sure why this post was aimed at me. I was simply replying to @Mac Mickmanus who stated that NATO/EU/USA/UK were not involved in the war when they bally well are.

 

 Where do you think all the hardware is coming from ? Where do you think the sanctions are coming from ? Where do you think the policies to reduce dependance on russia oil/gas are coming from ?

Of course they are involved .

This is what you posted Chelseafan.