Rottweiler owner reneges on compensation agreement after nine year old boy is savaged by three dogs

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

A mates mate was bitten by a vicious chihuahua, nipped his finger it did… gave him sepsis, killed him… deadly animals… don’t get me started on those budgies bread to irritate a person to death or those lions which can’t use the litter tray… 

This is a serious topic.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

This is a serious topic.

Absolutely….    But the idiocy of people having dangerous animals is tiresome…  

every week a child or adult loses life or limb with no accountability to the owner or authorities.

 

Only reasonable solutions are:

- ALL dogs must have a collar identifying their owner.

- Remove and destroy all dogs on the street.

- Fine owners whose dogs are not restrained & remove their dogs.

- Ban breeding of all dogs considered dangerous. 
- Cull all stray dogs.

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've played with a few of those natural born killers, and only fear was being slobbered on to death.

Irresponsible comment.

 

You’d leave one in a room alone with a 10 year old child then ? 5 year old ? 
 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by richard_smith237

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Irresponsible comment.

 

You’d leave one in a room alone with a 10 year old child then ? 5 year old ? 
 

 

Only if I trained, raised the dog.  Irrelevant, as not a big fan of any of those breeds.  I prefer stays, orphaned, abandoned dogs.

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by KhunLA

[richard_smith237]

10 hours ago, roo860 said:

I'd be aggressive if you took my food!

And chew a child’s face off for approaching the bowl of pedigree chum ?
 

10 hours ago, robblok said:

I don't blame my dog.. should never take a dogs food. But it was the only time he was really aggressive with me. Oh and of course when there were females in the room. Then he positioned himself between me and the female (even girls he did not know) he liked attention too much ????

 

But he was a big softy, growling yes for sure but never further then that. Just trying to intimidate if ignored he would give up. 

 

A big softie until ?

 

 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

8 hours ago, billsmart said:

I read that son was fishing, which is attempting to hook fish in their mouths, drag them through the water, stick a rope through their mouth and out their gills, and leave them floundering around in the water in an attempt to keep them alive so they can then have their bellies slit open, their organs removed, and finally left to die. 

So, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the son being attacked by some dogs.

You appear to be inferring that the child had it coming...

 

 

 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Led Lolly Yellow Lolly

[pomchop]

13 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Every owner will vouch that their Rottweiler and other aggressive dogs are well trained and good nature until incident like this happened. There must be good reasons why certain countries banned entry of these aggressive dogs and those already in the country have very strict rules on keeping them like need to be on the lead and muzzled. Thailand must review those laws on keeping such kind of dogs as incidents like this has been re-occurring too often and little legal recourse for the victims. 

The internet is full of stories of "sweet dogs" like pit bulls that end up ripping the face off of some innocent child or passerby.  Dogs that have been purposely bred to fight with specially bred jaws that are much much stronger than normal dogs are not now and never were meant to be family pets. 

 

Ask some pit bull owners whose dogs killed or maimed their own children how "sweet" their little doggies were.  All it takes is being in the wrong place at the wrong time when a pit is having a bad day or is under some nonexistent perceived threat.  Are there some pits that don't attack? Sure but are you willing to take the gamble.  Stop with the macho posturing that i own a dog that can kill you and get a normal dog.

[jts-khorat]

13 hours ago, ohno said:

 

The statistics say otherwise:

 

https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

 

Top 10 Most Fatal Dog Breeds Table

Breed	Deaths	% of Total
Pit bull	284	65.6%
Rottweiler	45	10.4%
German shepherd	20	4.6%
Mixed-breed	17	3.9%
American bulldog	15	3.5%
Mastiff/Bullmastiff	14	3.2%
Husky	13	3.0%
Unknown/unreleased	11	2.5%
Labrador retriever	9	2.1%
Boxer	7	1.6%

Looking at this table, 'fatality' here could easily be an artifact of dog body size, seeing that a Husky seems to be as 'deadly' as a bullmastiff. Nobody would expect a poodle to be able to kill somebody.

 

But of course, the bigger the dog, the more responsible the owner needs to be both in training und how he keeps it.

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've played with a few of those natural born killers, and only fear was being slobbered on to death.

How idiotic a post.....

Three seriously large aggressive dogs savage a young boy to the extent of lifelong scars and trauma, requiring specialist treatment that suggests his life was in danger. And the dog owner, who failed to contain these dangerous animals is a liar and reneges on promises made... and your comment is this on the matter! 

[Sydebolle]

Irrespective of what Wikipedia or the American Rottweiler Club states, the owner should be facing the music by a public prosecutor. 

What a pr1ck to default on a promise and, quite obviously, the Phooyai thinks - that after bargaining the compensation from 3 to 1.3 million and subsequently pay only 200K - he can get away with this. 

The dogs need to be put down, a Rottweiler is not a domestic pet - irrespective of what doggie clubs or the internet seem to advocate! 

[jacko45k]

Just now, Sydebolle said:

The dogs need to be put down, a Rottweiler is not a domestic pet - irrespective of what doggie clubs or the internet seem to advocate! 

A little like asking the NRA what they think on weapons I guess. 

[Sydebolle]

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

A little like asking the NRA what they think on weapons I guess. 

That's another fantastic subject with compliments of the United States of Almightiness .....

[roo860]

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

And chew a child’s face off for approaching the bowl of pedigree chum ?
 

A big softie until ?

 

 

Don't take it literally Smithy.☺

I was thinking if someone tried to pinch my chips.

Edited March 15, 2022 by roo860

[KhunLA]

48 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

How idiotic a post.....

Three seriously large aggressive dogs savage a young boy to the extent of lifelong scars and trauma, requiring specialist treatment that suggests his life was in danger. And the dog owner, who failed to contain these dangerous animals is a liar and reneges on promises made... and your comment is this on the matter! 

NO, my comment wasn't about the OP, boy, or idiot dog owner at all.  

 

Simply referring to my experience with the type breeds being discussed.  But hey, spin it anyway that makes you feel good.

[robblok]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

And chew a child’s face off for approaching the bowl of pedigree chum ?
 

A big softie until ?

 

 

Basically a big softy with everyone but me. Especially with girls then he would growl at me and place himself between me and the girl (really annoying). And of course growling if i stole his food.

[billsmart]

7 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

You appear to be inferring that the child had it coming...

No, the child did not any more have it coming than the fish. 

 

 

 

 

[crazykopite]

The dogs should of been put down as they will do it again as for the owner what can I say he is lower than a sewer rat 

[roo860]

7 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Looking at this table, 'fatality' here could easily be an artifact of dog body size, seeing that a Husky seems to be as 'deadly' as a bullmastiff. Nobody would expect a poodle to be able to kill somebody.

 

But of course, the bigger the dog, the more responsible the owner needs to be both in training und how he keeps it.

Interesting, wouldn't like to be on the wrong side of this poodle.

Edited March 16, 2022 by roo860

[jacko45k]

36 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

NO, my comment wasn't about the OP, boy, or idiot dog owner at all.  

 

Simply referring to my experience with the type breeds being discussed.  But hey, spin it anyway that makes you feel good.

You made an irrelevant comment, for what purpose other than minimizing what happened here, I cannot grasp.

[Henryford]

21 hours ago, Will B Good said:

....and to add to this......many owners are more than happy to encourage a vicious streak in their dogs........it adds to their macho image.

 

Yes, the only reason to have this type of dog is as a visious guard dog to scare possible intruders.

[Andycoops]

A friend of mine had two Rottie'sin the next village to me and the worst thing about them was the amount of saliva that was deposited upon your person when they greeted you.

The locals wouldn't go anywhere near them and just couldn't get used to us petting them.

He raised them from pups and was clearly the pack leader.

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

You made an irrelevant comment, for what purpose other than minimizing what happened here, I cannot grasp.

Must be contagious, as a lot of that going around.

 

Reading comprehension will help you avoid making the same mistake in the future.

[jacko45k]

13 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Yes, the only reason to have this type of dog is as a visious guard dog to scare possible intruders.

Problem is, as it was here, if they manage to get out. These dogs did not seem to slobber playfully over these kids when they did. I also think many have these types of dogs as an ego kick too.  Perhaps if it had been a single guard dog,  a pack type attack may be less likely.

Edited March 16, 2022 by jacko45k

[JonnyF]

13 hours ago, Joules said:

Nonsense.  Training matters, but the breed has a lot to do with temperament.  You apparently do not know much about dogs and should probably not own one.  Nor should you be offering your speculative advice.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about ????. I've grown up with dogs my whole life and currently have 7 up on our farm in Korat, including a Rednose PitBull who is very well trained and has an exceptional temperament. Your opinion on whether I should own dogs is not only inaccurate, but completely irrelevant.

 

I'd invite you to come and visit to see for yourself, you might learn something. However, while the PitBill likes everyone, the 6 'Thai' dogs are much more discerning and have proven to  be excellent judges of character in humans so it might not be the best idea ????. 

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Problem is, as it was here, if they manage to get out. These dogs did not seem to slobber playfully over these kids when they did. I also think many have these types of dogs as an ego kick too.  Perhaps if it had been a single guard dog,  a pack type attack may be less likely.

Again, seems the issue falls on the owners, not the dogs.  Keep a vicious pet, keep it contained.  Own a gun, lock it up.  Drive a 1 ton vehicle, drive it properly.  Not rocket science.

 

Isn't much debate about the owner (self admittedly) being an idiot.  OP is about not receiving compensation agreed upon, if news-blip is to be believed.

 

Dogs are domesticated = easily trainable.  It's not an elephant, lion or tiger.  

 

 

[mikebell]

Meanwhile Pattaya Animal Army is darting/vaccinating/sterilising 20 or 30 dogs a day then releasing them back on to the street to continue defecating, causing accidents, biting children, spreading diseases and disturbing the peace.  What a fatuous waste of energy and money!

[chrissables]

22 hours ago, Will B Good said:

This kind of dog, in particular, should never be off their leads in public and should always wear a collar.

 

The few times I have encountered rottweilers they have come across as vicious and uncontrollable.

Where have you encountered them? 

 

Control come down to the owner, not the dog.

 

Vicious compared to soi dogs?

 

Dogs are not trained, exercised or looked after in Thailand, picking a certain breed is ridiculous. 

[superal]

19 hours ago, robblok said:

Ex Dutch GF had one, walked around free on the farm. I was not allowed to touch her when he was near. That was one scarey dog. But he was nice too after a while he was ok with me petting him.

 

But such a dog can do enormous damage so they should really be kept away from the public. I don't even want to think about what it could have done to me. 

 

I had a Bangkaew dog in Thailand, sweet dog (but they are supposed to be aggressive) Though the only one he ever was aggressive too was me. (if i took his food). But he was 25kg and I am sure i could have been able to overpower him. Not so much with the 50+kg rottweiler not weithout sustaining some serious damage myself.

 

I like dogs even rottweilers but i see the potential damage they can do. 

Above in bold print is the most important consideration . Put in a similar way , it is the potential harm that a dog can inflict and with a rottweiler it is death , even to a full grown male adult . These dog loving do gooders who say  "my dog will not harm a fly ", just do not get it and are selfish and inconsiderate . This breed should be banned from domestic ownership and kept in a zoo or used by the military . Also to have such an animal off the lead and without a muzzle should be illegal and the penalty could be a fine, then to imprisonment with compensation paid to the injured , in the case of an attack . Finally , why do people want to own such a dangerous breed ? if it is security the dog should be secured within the premises that it is guarding and not roaming the streets 300 meters away . No mention of the dogs being put down ? This young boy had 10 days in ICU . If I was his father I would be looking for a face to face  meeting with the dog owner.

[Will B Good]

6 minutes ago, chrissables said:

Where have you encountered them? 

 

Control come down to the owner, not the dog.

 

Vicious compared to soi dogs?

 

Dogs are not trained, exercised or looked after in Thailand, picking a certain breed is ridiculous. 

Calm down dear, calm down.

[robblok]

23 minutes ago, superal said:

Above in bold print is the most important consideration . Put in a similar way , it is the potential harm that a dog can inflict and with a rottweiler it is death , even to a full grown male adult . These dog loving do gooders who say  "my dog will not harm a fly ", just do not get it and are selfish and inconsiderate . This breed should be banned from domestic ownership and kept in a zoo or used by the military . Also to have such an animal off the lead and without a muzzle should be illegal and the penalty could be a fine, then to imprisonment with compensation paid to the injured , in the case of an attack . Finally , why do people want to own such a dangerous breed ? if it is security the dog should be secured within the premises that it is guarding and not roaming the streets 300 meters away . No mention of the dogs being put down ? This young boy had 10 days in ICU . If I was his father I would be looking for a face to face  meeting with the dog owner.

Im ok with people having such dogs if they can keep them at their own house with land and away from people. Or when they walk with them on a leash. Otherwise they can be a danger as the potential damage can be huge.

 

My 25kg bangkaew im sure i could overpower him (he would do damage to me for sure) but im not so sure i could overpower a 50-60 kg rottweiler (not without weapons anyway and not without a lot of damage)