How Easy is it to get a FIRST CLASS EDUCATION....Locally? (Compared to What?)

[GammaGlobulin]

My Dear Friends,

 

Fortunately, when I was young, I attended school elsewhere, before coming here.

 

So, what do you think?

 

If you truly wanted a first-class education, up to age 18, then would this place be best for you?

 

What can you learn here, also?

 

Just a simple question having so many possible points of view.

 

Take care, my friends.

 

I was not educated here, as you might have guessed.

 

Best to all my friends on this great forum.

 

Glob.

[StreetCowboy]

The school my kids went to was as good as any other, and convenient for my work in Klang Thoey.

 

not cheap, though.

[GammaGlobulin]

4 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

The school my kids went to was as good as any other, and convenient for my work in Klang Thoey.

 

not cheap, though.

Name of the school?

 

 

(Take care, my friend.)

[GammaGlobulin]

What is great education?

 

"I know it when I see it".

 

The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.^[1][2] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.^[3]

The expression became one of the best-known phrases in the history of the Supreme Court.^[4] Though "I know it when I see it" is widely cited as Stewart's test for "obscenity", he never used the word "obscenity" himself in his short concurrence. He only stated that he knows what fits the "shorthand description" of "hard-core pornography" when he sees it.^[5]

Stewart's "I know it when I see it" standard was praised as "realistic and gallant"^[6] and an example of candor.^[7] It has also been critiqued as being potentially fallacious, due to individualistic arbitrariness.^[8][9]

This simple phrase, embedded in a plurality opinion, carries with it many of the conflicts and inconsistencies that continue to plague American obscenity law. In effect, "I know it when I see it" can still be paraphrased and unpacked as: "I know it when I see it, and someone else will know it when they see it, but what they see and what they know may or may not be what I see and what I know, and that's okay."

— William T. Goldberg

[GammaGlobulin]

A great education, maybe, is only seen in the rearview mirror.

 

Some schools are better than others.

 

Best not to choose teachers who have no understanding of education.

 

So many rip-offs, these days.

 

So many substandard teachers hailing from so many countries, just wishing to pickup a few extra dollars, or rupee,  before they move on.

 

So many unqualified teachers, in fact.

 

Always best to check out their academic credentials and qualifications, and native teaching ability, before enrolling in a school.

 

Once one is enrolled, then there is no assurance that one will be granted a gifted teacher.

 

This is just too much of a very complicated question.

 

Goodbye, Mr. Chips.

He is now long gone.

[StreetCowboy]

19 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Name of the school?

 

 

(Take care, my friend.)

You can’t start adding further questions.  Maybe you should ask Jingthing about questions and polls.  I’ve answered your question, and that’s the end of it.  Hardcore pornography was not mentioned in the original question, and I won’t be drawn on that. 

[GammaGlobulin]

10 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

You can’t start adding further questions.  Maybe you should ask Jingthing about questions and polls.  I’ve answered your question, and that’s the end of it.  Hardcore pornography was not mentioned in the original question, and I won’t be drawn on that. 

OK.

 

Sorry.

[1FinickyOne]

Maybe, more importantly, the idea of having a fair bit of home influence... I think that is the largest part of my niece becoming a wonderful person... 

[GammaGlobulin]

15 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

OK.

 

Sorry.

Again...sorry.

 

My main point was that it is almost as difficult to identify a "good education", as it might be to identify pornography.

 

Of course, I was not equating the two.

 

Sorry.

Edited March 19, 2022 by GammaGlobulin

[patman30]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

If you truly wanted a first-class education, up to age 18, then would this place be best for you?

probably find most members on here are a lot older than 18 already.....

[GammaGlobulin]

9 minutes ago, patman30 said:

probably find most members on here are a lot older than 18 already.....

As you know, there are two, or more, ways to measure age:

 

a. Mental Age

b. Emotional Age

c. Piaget Age

d. Chronological Age

e. And, many more.

 

Personally, I prefer to date a woman who has a Mental Age far more advanced than her Chronological Age.

 

 

 

 

[TravelerEastWest]

I understood your supreme court comment and to some extent you can use it with education. However, asking parents, teachers etc  as you are doing here is better...

 

Most Thai schools don't encourage students to think on their own so if that is important to you and probably you already know that...

 

The top ten percent of the international schools in Thailand are OK, some problems with arrogant administrators who don't listen to parents etc but in general good schools you get what you pay for if you are lucky...

[GammaGlobulin]

So, just to be clear:

 

If one is dating a woman whose Mental Age is at least Triple her Chronological Age, then.....

 

What is there to complain about? 

[patman30]

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

As you know, there are two, or more, ways to measure age:

 

a. Mental Age

b. Emotional Age

c. Piaget Age

d. Chronological Age

e. And, many more.

 

Personally, I prefer to date a woman who has a Mental Age far more advanced than her Chronological Age.

are you asking about schools so you can find a date?
do you know the laws here?

when you state "upto age 18"
it is very clear which age we are talking about

[GammaGlobulin]

8 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said:

I understood your supreme court comment and to some extent you can use it with education. However, asking parents, teachers etc  as you are doing here is better...

 

Most Thai schools don't encourage students to think on their own so if that is important to you and probably you already know that...

 

The top ten percent of the international schools in Thailand are OK, some problems with arrogant administrators who don't listen to parents etc but in general good schools you get what you pay for if you are lucky...

OK.

 

Thank you very much for your understanding of my stretch!

 

Again, thank you.

 

I got freaked out when some guys did not get the connection.

 

Tks.

[patman30]

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

So, just to be clear:

 

If one is dating a woman whose Mental Age is at least Triple her Chronological Age, then.....

 

What is there to complain about? 

you mean when a girl is aged 10
but YOU thinks she acts like she is 30
is that what you mean?

[GammaGlobulin]

14 minutes ago, patman30 said:

you mean when a girl is aged 10
but YOU thinks she acts like she is 30
is that what you mean?

Actually...NO!

 

I mean when a girl has a Mental Age of 150, and a Chronological Age of 50.

 

Nothing could be finer.

[patman30]

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Actually...NO!

 

I mean when a girl has a Mental Age of 150, and a Chronological Age of 50.

 

Nothing could be finer.

how many people aged 150 have you met to even know what a mental age of 150 is like?
stop talking nonsense and asking about dating schoolgirls
 

[it is what it is]

 

a friend's daughter attends a school attached to  mahidol university, they teach the uk curriculum. i often chat to her and occasionally help her with her studies, i'm impressed by the standard of work she's expected to produce. her studies are not overtly thai centric and no excessive loss of teaching days due to preparation for cheering a sports events, parties, trips, etc.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, patman30 said:

how many people aged 150 have you met to even know what a mental age of 150 is like?
stop talking nonsense and asking about dating schoolgirls
 

Do you mean dating schoolgirls of age 50?

I have known quite a few.

 

Anyway, just for you, I will supply you with the following definition of Mental Age:

 

MENTAL AGE, intelligence test score, expressed as the chronological age for which a given level of performance is average or typical. An individual’s mental age is then divided by his chronological age and multiplied by 100, yielding an intelligence quotient (IQ). 

 

Maybe you are a Mensa candidate?

 

 

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Again...sorry.

 

My main point was that it is almost as difficult to identify a "good education", as it might be to identify pornography.

 

Of course, I was not equating the two.

 

Sorry.

No, what you are doing most of the time, is posting things that are somewhat negative in Thailand.

Let me ask you two things. Are you living here, in Thailand? Why are you doing that if it is so bad?

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

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Edited March 19, 2022 by Etaoin Shrdlu

[GammaGlobulin]

14 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

a friend's daughter attends a school attached to  mahidol university, they teach the uk curriculum. i often chat to her and occasionally help her with her studies, i'm impressed by the standard of work she's expected to produce. her studies are not overtly thai centric and no excessive loss of teaching days due to preparation for cheering a sports events, parties, trips, etc.

As you say, there are exceptional schools here.

 

However, the schools you mention, which are attached to Thai universities, as you know, are exceptional.

 

I can name another, which I will not do, here.

 

The students are exceptional.

 

These students are amazing, and they are able to gain full scholarships to attend first-class universities, abroad, as you know.

 

Then, when they return, they work for the government, or in teaching, for many years, in order to pay back the price of their tuition.

 

I know you think I do not know this....but I do.

 

In my opinion, this is a very good system, since it allows the talented and smartest children to receive an excellent education, at government expense, overseas, and then return to pay back for what they have received.

 

Quite a good system.

[GammaGlobulin]

10 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

No, what you are doing most of the time, is posting things that are somewhat negative in Thailand.

Let me ask you two things. Are you living here, in Thailand? Why are you doing that if it is so bad?

I beg to disagree with you.

 

However, I will not argue with you, to no purpose.

[Gottfrid]

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I beg to disagree with you.

 

However, I will not argue with you, to no purpose.

Thank you for your amazing contradiction in only two short sentences. Might be a world record.

Sounds more to me like you are arguing with yourself.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Gottfrid

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

Thank you for your amazing contradiction in only two short sentences. Might be a world record..

If I have provided you with your greatest amusement of this day, just by posting two lines on the Farang Pub, then.......

[TravelerEastWest]

"These students are amazing, and they are able to gain full scholarships to attend first-class universities, abroad, as you know."

 

I have never heard of these schools - please name some. I look forward to hearing about top Thai schools where students are taught how to think on their own and question teachers etc...

 

I thought only students with top grades, (mostly from top prep schools) and unusual nonacademic achievements are considered such as being top in a sport or music or founding a non profit etc... The top grades are only a first filter.

 

From what I have heard from teachers and school counselors and friends is that full scholarships to top universities are rare.

 

Actually getting into top universities is rare and places like Stanford, Harvard and Oxford will try to provide scholarships as needed for the best students.

 

"Then, when they return, they work for the government, or in teaching, for many years, in order to pay back the price of their tuition."

 

The above is not what I have always thought of a scholarship - sounds like a loan...

Edited March 20, 2022 by TravelerEastWest

[GammaGlobulin]

8 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said:

 

"These students are amazing, and they are able to gain full scholarships to attend first-class universities, abroad, as you know."

 

I have never heard of these schools - please name some... I thought only students with top grades, and unusual nonacademic achievements are considered such as being top in a sport of music or founding a non profit etc...

 

From what I have heard from teachers and school counselors and friends is that full scholarships to top universities are rare.

 

Actually getting into top universities is rare and places like Stanford will try real hard to provide scholarships as needed for the best students.

 

AIT, for example.

And others.

[kwonitoy]

My son was in Grade 4 at a private school in Udon Thani.

We've moved to Canada and his age group puts him in Grade 5 here in Canada.

He finds it extremely easy in Canada and his teacher says he is more advanced than his peers, education wise.

So way to go Paramin school in Udon.

[RichardColeman]

11 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

If you truly wanted a first-class education, up to age 18, then would this place be best for you?

For most thais that will work in the country,  then yes.

 

For those thais that want to work away from thailand , then no