10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is the OP appreciated for coaching anyway- do they say thank you, wai? If not, why bother?

 

It's been a hard lesson for me to learn in life, but sometimes people just don't want some well intentioned person trying to help. I've always been keen to pass on the lessons I've learned, but I finally realised that sometimes it's a mistake to do so.

Thank you very for the reply :),
do they say thank you, wai? of course not ???? I assumed it was a Thai thing not to be grateful for anything. I wish they wouldn't keep calling me "The Farang" 

 

I am not going to bother with improving the skill of these people anymore. 

13 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Waste of space, maybe.

Yep. We are living together and you don't have my back? Hmm. Let me do a re-think on this. Perhaps you are showing me your true colors? 

 

A lack of loyalty can be a terrible thing. And a life can be a terrible thing to waste with the wrong partner. 

15 minutes ago, falangUK said:

Thank you very for the reply :),
do they say thank you, wai? of course not ???? I assumed it was a Thai thing not to be grateful for anything. I wish they wouldn't keep calling me "The Farang" 

 

I am not going to bother with improving the skill of these people anymore. 

If you're taking the role of a teacher, they should be showing you a decent level of respect.  I would hate to be referred to as "the farang".  I would have told them to call me whatever they call a coach in Thai or I would not be doing it at all.

 

Anything like "dirty farang" and I wouldn't want to have anything to do with that person anymore.  If it was in a group and none of them stood up for me or challenged his behaviour in any way, I'd be done with the group as well.

 

Sadly, doing things for free rarely gets you any respect as often people don't value anything they don't have to pay for.

15 hours ago, falangUK said:

How would you react if a 14 Year old Thai who you've been coaching (free) daily called you a cheating dirty farang because you pointed out that he was cheating in a game of basketball?

Father is fairly pleasant with the interactions I've had. The "kid" a 120kg giant layabout, treats the father in a pretty offhanded way too. 

I was feeling rather bad (because I hate confrontations) after the incident and tried twice to extend the proverbial olive branch, but the <deleted> just ignored me and walked off both times.

What would you have done?

What would you do in future encounters?

Of course the TGF is 100% I am at fault because I am not Thai ???? 
 

Firstly I commend you for coaching these kids for free.

 

That said, as soon as someone is disrespectful to me, it's game over, regardless if it's a Thai or a farang.

 

You have nothing to gain from coaching these kids basketball, especially if they don't wai you, I would suspect they would wai a Thai coach.

 

You calling out the kid cheating is expected from where we come from, but not from their culture, everything here is taken lightly, doesn't matter, it's ok, my pen rai, hence the reason it is what it is.

 

Personally I wouldn't bother in coaching the kids, for what, not respecting your coach or your teacher, especially if they are coaching/teaching you for free, is an absolute no, no.

 

I am sure you have other interests, put your positive energy into something else where people will respect and appreciate you for your efforts, however as others have said, NEVER make a Thai lose face, we all know it's the most stupidest thing (pride, ego) call it what you want, just don't, not worth the hassle, best to duck and weave and if it doesn't gel with you, then keep moving forward until you find somewhere you will eventually fit, if ever here.

 

Your TG is 100% correct, respect, but at the same time, you are also 100% correct, but not in this culture.

15 hours ago, falangUK said:

I am the coach! I didn't play

maybe it is time that the coach just walks away...

 

 

Come on, be nice - Give the poor kid another chance.

 

If he does it again - Drop kick the Fat Fcuker.

Pay a "fixer" 1000 baht to go and have a chat with him ???????????? he sounds like a bully and they only understand one thing.

Since I am not legally allowed to react as a Thai would (ten on one, beating and kicking), I suppose I would smile and walk away.

On 3/24/2022 at 7:23 PM, falangUK said:

What would you do in future encounters?

Of course the TGF is 100% I am at fault because I am not Thai

Headbutt fat kid and dump girlfriend. 
Seriously, avoid both. Life’s too short to put up with… people. 

On 3/25/2022 at 2:23 AM, falangUK said:

What would you have done?

What would you do in future encounters?

Of course the TGF is 100% I am at fault because I am not Thai ???? 

Neither that kid nor your "TGF" are worth your time. Move on, no future encounters.

Sounds like a stroppy kid waiting to make his own violent and sad headline on this forum

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Life’s too short to put up with… people. 

"People. What a bunch of b*stards."

You could always hire another 14 year old Thai urchin to "explain" it to him.  Or better yet, hire ten 14 year olds, which would make the encounter more traditionally Thai. ????

Some quite strange suggestions on here. Any attempt by a farang to beat up a Thai kid whether by self or by paying others is only likely to lead to said farang spending time in an unpleasant place, and possibly getting the <deleted> beaten out of him before the cops turn up.

Where do some posters think the OP is living...... Kansas?

I would focus on how good a life you have.

And that his will probably be peaking in a few years and then its a life as a taxi driver or less

He's 14, so ..... cut the brake lines on his bicycle!

 

Too far? !!  ????

 

On 3/25/2022 at 5:44 PM, falangUK said:

 

 

I am not going to bother with improving the skill of these people anymore. 

Good neither of you seems a good match.

On 3/25/2022 at 5:17 AM, falangUK said:

Thank you so much for the advice ???? 

Yup truly ungrateful, unfriendly, disrespectful, stupid and lazy. Characteristics for a great future ???? 

You can't be real, clearly an April Fools joke, nobody is that dumb surely?  

Free coaching. Yet he is unappreciative and insulting when you call him out for doing wrong.

Maybe racism coming to the surface too. Shows what he really thinks of you.

Sounds like another spoiled, bullying yob in the making.

 

Walk away. If you still want to coach, find someone who will appreciate it.

Show them both your racist side and see their reaction. Call them "monkeys" if they dare to react. Follow same pattern as long as necessary.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Show them both your racist side and see their reaction. Call them "monkeys" if they dare to react. Follow same pattern as long as necessary.

 

 

That is being rather immature .

If a 14 year old acts in an untoward manner , the solution isn't to act in the same untoward manner , otherwise you are both acting in the same way and are just as bad as each other 

 

you're a coach and you don't know how to deal with a bit of cheek from a 14 year old child?! i suggest a change of occupation.

 

Not only should you walk away from all of it, you should run.

 

Wait till the kid says you touched him up in the change room.  After all, what's stopping him from saying it, or similar?

 

You will be spending your life savings buying your freedom for a crime you didn't commit, while the kid, his family, and police, live it up on your money. 

 

You go home just another broke and disgruntled foreigner from your experience in Thailand, if you survive some prison time. 

 

Tell him that's impolite and very disrespectful toward an elder and he shouldn't talk like this.

 

(If that fails, try "Why do you talk to me like this?  I didn't stomp your father's head, you fat monitor lizard."  It sounds best in Isaan Lao.)

The same reaction as having a knat buzzing around my arm. You just ignore it. An empty suit deserves no attention. 

On 3/25/2022 at 2:58 AM, redsongthaew said:

Get a new girlfriend, and next time make a better choice.

 

As for the kid, stop coaching him.

 

Why are you wasting your life dealing with negative people?

Like he said ^

On 3/25/2022 at 2:23 AM, falangUK said:

...called you a cheating dirty farang because you pointed out that he was cheating in a game of basketball?

That's where you messed up.

 

Rule #1: In any disagreement between a Thai and a falang, the Thai is always right - even when he's dead wrong.

 

Nothing is more important to a Thai than appearances, social status and "face" (except perhaps money.)

Do you have a work permit that allows you to coach sports?

 

If no, you are committing a criminal act.

 

Perhaps he has no respect for you because you are committing crimes with zero regard for the law!! 

 

 

I will do nothing as I respect freedom of speech--after all maybe she is right.

On 3/25/2022 at 6:43 AM, BritManToo said:

Best not to mix with male Thais. 

Best for him not to mix with male Brits either, I think, during his trips back to Blighty. Were he to criticise a 14-year-old British youth in similar circumstances, odds are that he would find a knife plunged into him!