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4 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

... Never fight someone more than 10 years younger

Yeah.  When I was 15, a 4 year old kicked my butt.

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I guess it was the last straw following a mere couple of weeks ago; Rebel had a dig at the BAFTAs .....................

 

Wilson said she thought his “best performance in the past year was being OK with all his wife’s boyfriends”.

When the crown groaned, she said: “Come on, he never showed up!”

 

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Poor taste joke but most jokes are

 

 

I would hate to think what Ricky Gervais would have have said, it's a night of entertainment, jokes are said, good taste, bad taste, Will Smith, you just lost everything.

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6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Hair joke yes.. but she has a disease causing it. Don't think that is a nice thing to joke about. To joke about someones disease is quite low to be honest. Just read why he punched her. Not condoning it but some things you should not really joke about.

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5 minutes ago, bojo said:

I guess it was the last straw following a mere couple of weeks ago; Rebel had a dig at the BAFTAs .....................

 

Wilson said she thought his “best performance in the past year was being OK with all his wife’s boyfriends”.

When the crown groaned, she said: “Come on, he never showed up!”

 

 

Totally agree.

 

He's been humiliated publicly by his own wife and various other comedians. Completely emasculated on the world stage. Chris Rock was just the unfortunate one in the way when the straw broke the camel's back. 

 

Now the highlight of his career, the Oscar, will be remembered for this. Very sad. I used to be a big fan back in the days of Fresh Prince, Summertime, Jazzy Jeff etc.

 

The dangers of marrying and staying with the wrong woman I guess. 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Totally agree.

 

He's been humiliated publicly by his own wife and various other comedians. Completely emasculated on the world stage. Chris Rock was just the unfortunate one in the way when the straw broke the camel's back. 

 

Now the highlight of his career, the Oscar, will be remembered for this. Very sad. I used to be a big fan back in the days of Fresh Prince, Summertime, Jazzy Jeff etc.

 

The dangers of marrying and staying with the wrong woman I guess. 

 

 

 

 

 

"Chris Rock was just the unfortunate one in the way when the straw broke the camel's back". 

Yes. The guy(s) he really wanted to punch were those that were Sh*99ing his missus.

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What's all this guy girly slapping another guy? ....and a sucker slap as well! No like "lets take this outside and fight man to man". 

 

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4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

More and more I'm in the "fake slap" brigade. Play acting.

I'd have gone along with that up until Smith's profane tirade.  Had it been acting, no F bombs would have been launched.  Lots of venues are censoring out that part.

 

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8 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Chris Rock declined to press charges.

He can refuse to sue in civil court, but criminal charges come on the form of "the state" vs "the defendant", not "the victim" vs "the defendant".

 

They don't need the victim's cooperation if they have all the evidence on national TV.

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I was pretty offended by that whole bit with that woman groping Brolin and that other guy and joking about some other actor asking "are you legal".  It wasn't what she did or said, it was the double standard where that is considered an acceptable bit but if the genders are reversed it's not.

 

Regarding the Smith nontroversy.  I could be wrong but I think they clear some of the potentially objectionable jokes with everyone beforehand.

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7 minutes ago, impulse said:

He can refuse to sue in civil court, but criminal charges come on the form of "the state" vs "the defendant", not "the victim" vs "the defendant".

 

They don't need the victim's cooperation if they have all the evidence on national TV.

Unless the victim stands in Court and states that it was all acting , planned and a publicity stunt and that would be a "Not guilty " verdict 

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Just now, impulse said:

He can refuse to sue in civil court, but criminal charges come on the form of "the state" vs "the defendant", not "the victim" vs "the defendant".

 

They don't need the victim's cooperation if they have all the evidence on national TV.

I guess that the USA has something equivalent to the UK's Crown Prosecutor, who may consider that it is not in the public interest to pursue a charge for this very minor assault, especially as the "victim" was not injured and he does not support a prosecution.

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12 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

I guess that the USA has something equivalent to the UK's Crown Prosecutor, who may consider that it is not in the public interest to pursue a charge for this very minor assault, especially as the "victim" was not injured and he does not support a prosecution.

I think it's a big nuthin' burger, and Rock's being a stand up guy because he knows he crossed a line.

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30 minutes ago, impulse said:

He can refuse to sue in civil court, but criminal charges come on the form of "the state" vs "the defendant", not "the victim" vs "the defendant".

 

They don't need the victim's cooperation if they have all the evidence on national TV.

 

From a law enforcement/legal perspective, the matter at hand most likely would be considered a lesser misdemeanor as opposed to more serious felony case of battery or assault.

 

And AFAIK, in the U.S., it's not uncommon for the police to not pursue such misdemeanor cases when the alleged victim is not willing to cooperate and/or not wanting a criminal case to ensue.

 

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37 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'd have gone along with that up until Smith's profane tirade.  Had it been acting, no F bombs would have been launched.  Lots of venues are censoring out that part.

 

It was real!

100 percent.

 

 

 

 

Uh oh

 

 

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Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The matter at hand most likely would be considered a lesser misdemeanor as opposed to more serious felony case of battery or assault.

 

And AFAIK, in the U.S., it's not uncommon for the police to not pursue such misdemeanor cases when the alleged victim is not willing to cooperate and/or not wanting a criminal case to ensue.

The reason you need a victim to cooperate goes out the window if it's on video.  Imagine a kiddy porn video where the kiddy doesn't want to press charges or testify.  They still have the video.  Not that this rises to that level, but they don't need the victim to go along.

 

I contend it's a nuthin' burger and I suspect the prosecutor will, too.  We'll see.  There's a lot of anger calling out favored treatment for celebrities.

 

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25 minutes ago, impulse said:

The reason you need a victim to cooperate goes out the window if it's on video.  Imagine a kiddy porn video where the kiddy doesn't want to press charges or testify.

 

Your given example is irrelevant to this matter, because a kiddy porn video isn't going to be looked at as a potential misdemeanor offense. It would be a felony, where victim cooperation becomes less absolutely necessary, unlike in this kind of low-level potential misdemeanor case.

 

Police generally aren't especially willing to spend their time, and the court system's time, on at best low-grade misdemeanors in cases where even the victim doesn't want to file a complaint or otherwise pursue charges.  And no actual physical injury occurred.  Even if it was caught on video.

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Hummin said:

I really do not understand how personal some manage to make this face slapping?

 

Chris Rock have so far choosed not to file a report, I can understand the why he got slapped, but would not had been my choice of weapon! Better ways to get even, and make a statement than a public face slapp. Well deserved or not!

when you snap you snap and the animal brain takes over so choice goes out the window. that's assuming it wasn't all just a great big stunt to sell tickets to whatever movie he was getting the award for. I'm not convinced either way.

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1 minute ago, Lemsta69 said:

when you snap you snap and the animal brain takes over so choice goes out the window. 

Only for some people, most people have a higher degree of self control and can also take a joke and dont resort to violence because of a joke 

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27 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Your given example is irrelevant to this matter, because a kiddy porn video isn't going to be looked at as a potential misdemeanor offense. It would be a felony, where victim cooperation becomes less absolutely necessary, unlike in this kind of low-level potential misdemeanor case.

 

Police generally aren't especially willing to spend their time, and the court system's time, on at best low-grade misdemeanors in cases where even the victim doesn't want to file a complaint or otherwise pursue charges.  And no actual physical injury occurred.  Even if it was caught on video.

So far, you're correct.  The police have offered to investigate if he files a report.  But let's wait and see if an activist judge or an ambitious prosecutor change things.  The fat lady has yet to sing here.

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8 minutes ago, impulse said:

But let's wait and see if an activist judge

 

Judges in the U.S., activist or not, don't initiate or cause to be initiated misdemeanor criminal cases that neither the police nor prosecutors have advanced into the court system.

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