Online lottery ticket sales proposed for year end if overpricing persists

[snoop1130]

 

A plan for the government to launch the online sale of lottery tickets at the end of this year is to be proposed, if the authorities remain unable to prevent the overpricing of the tickets, according to Spokesman for the Government Lottery Office (GLO) Assoc. Prof. Thanawat Pholvichai.

 

Thanawat’s remark came after complaints of the rampant overpricing of lottery tickets across the country, with prices as high as 120 baht, instead of the set 80 baht, and raids on the offices of two major online lottery ticket dealers.

 

At the premises of Kong Salak Plus in Bangkok, and Mungkornfa in Nonthaburi, over five million lottery tickets, allegedly bought from vendors who had each been granted a quota of 500 tickets per draw by the GLO, were found. The tickets could not be confiscated because they had already been sold, but not yet delivered to the buyers.

 

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[DezLez]

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

[Thailand]

The governments online projects have not exactly been a huge success. 

Online payment for most of those who purchase the tickets may also be a problem

[law ling]

22 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

at the end of this year

Wow. Nine months away ... looks like they are serious about it this time.

[CharlieH]

Be ideal to stop the over pricing etc and will be convenient for many to have that E option as so much is done and continues to go online.

 

I doubt very much they will stop street sales altogether as too many depend on it for a living.

 

"If" they can get it to work properly, a good bonus option for those that object to overpricing.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

In the West a lot of lottery profits go to community projects.
Part profits from a Thai online lottery could go to workshops for the disabled.
It would be a win/win scenario. No corruption, better odds for the punter and a more productive disabled cohort.
What could possibly go wrong?

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by LosLobo

[Will B Good]

This will certainly hit the 'little people' at the end of chain........doesn't seem right.

[Excel]

Well I would like to see it happen but guess the kick backs will be so high it will mean the government will find yet another reason for doing nothing as usual. 

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

30% of the current tickets are already distributed to charitable organizations for this purpose. They could continue to do this so that they can continue to sell to the public at the correct price.

 

With the bulk of the sales being on line, also at the correct price, it mean a level playing field for them and the agencies who are creating this overpricing issue should be out of business for good.

 

Should be!

[DezLez]

6 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

30% of the current tickets are already distributed to charitable organizations for this purpose. They could continue to do this so that they can continue to sell to the public at the correct price.

I understand that money goes to charitable organisations but that does not equate to wages. 

I believe that they will have to increase that percentage and or find some other way to compensate the disabled sellers from their loss of income.

[DezLez]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

What could possibly go wrong?

This Is Thailand!

[Moonlover]

21 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

30% of the current tickets are already distributed to charitable organizations for this purpose. They could continue to do this so that they can continue to sell to the public at the correct price.

 

With the bulk of the sales being on line, also at the correct price, it mean a level playing field for them and the agencies who are creating this overpricing issue should be out of business for good.

 

Should be!

 

10 minutes ago, DezLez said:

I understand that money goes to charitable organisations but that does not equate to wages. 

I believe that they will have to increase that percentage and or find some other way to compensate the disabled sellers from their loss of income.

I didn't say 30% of the money, I said 30% of the tickets! Please go and read the full article.

[kickstart]

It will be third time lucky ,Tucksin tried to get it all online and failed ,everyone then ,being pre smartphone was  afraid of the new  technology , that they number's will get lost in the system,I can remember seeing slips you fill in ,for 2 and 3 numbers as well as the 6 numbers. 

Last time ,the word was, the big ,big players of the underground lottery would lose out big time and put pressure on ,who ever it was, and it was scraped .

As has been said it will be the handicap sellers that will suffer ,unless ,somehow, they make an exception ,as for the rest of the sellers  ,they will just have to get a proper job,not just siting outside banks and temples all day.

[2 is 1]

I have never seen/heard somebody on streets buy ticket whit 80 bth, minimum always has been 100 bth. Most of quota's belong to rich people who send poor people to sell ticket's. And from those who get quota many are government workers. 

Edited March 29, 2022 by 2 is 1

[DezLez]

41 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

I didn't say 30% of the money, I said 30% of the tickets! Please go and read the full article.

I suggest you re-read my post!

[impulse]

Has anyone ever published the actual price of lottery tickets as they pass through the supply chain through any intermediaries on to the end user?  Or the actual payout percentages? 

 

I don't recall ever seeing transparent numbers.  Just references to a few families getting filthy rich, the street sellers getting hosed, and the buyers making a real poor payout...  Also quite nebulous regarding how many levels of corruption on the way from the gub'ment to the masses.

 

No guesses solicited.  Just the facts, if they're available.

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by impulse

[Elkski]

The sad part to me is that the Thai population (including my now wife) accept this mark up so willingly like it's normal corruption.  

Also what is the procedure with collecting winnings?  When sister In law won a modesty big lotto she went to the man who sold her the ticket to collect and she paid him like 2%?   

Edited March 29, 2022 by Elkski

[Tropicalevo]

3 hours ago, DezLez said:

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

More unemployment.  ☹️

Thailand - hub of unemployed and distressed people.

[Tropicalevo]

4 minutes ago, Elkski said:

The sad part to me is that the Thai population (including my now wife) accept this mark up so willingly like it's normal corruption.  

Therein lies a major problem in Thailand.

The Thais expect corruption. ????

[it is what it is]

 

this old chestnut again. for goodness sake, how hard can it be to sort this out?

[Moonlover]

37 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

I have never seen/heard somebody on streets buy ticket whit 80 bth, minimum always has been 100 bth. Most of quota's belong to rich people who send poor people to sell ticket's. And from those who get quota many are government workers. 

There was a period, maybe 3 or 4 years ago when the authorities stamped down on these nefarious agents and the price was 80 Baht no matter where you bought them from. But gradually the agents crawled out of the woodwork and the whole mark up business started up again.

 

Going for on line sales has always been the answer to the problem, but, as already discussed, there has to be provision for the disabled folk who currently sell some 30% of the tickets.

[Moonlover]

53 minutes ago, Elkski said:

Also what is the procedure with collecting winnings?  When sister In law won a modesty big lotto she went to the man who sold her the ticket to collect and she paid him like 2%? 

Yes, this is normal. There is a government tax on all lottery winnings.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

as already discussed, there has to be provision for the disabled folk who currently sell some 30% of the tickets.

Do they get those allocated tickets direct from the gub'ment or is there an intermediate markup?  And what percentage actually makes it to the intended disabled folks vs siphoned off? 

 

I'm just trying to understand how it really works.

[rwill]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

overpricing of lottery tickets across the country, with prices as high as 120 baht, instead of the set 80 baht

I have seen them higher than 120 baht.  Specially for sets.  I once saw single ticket prices of 150 baht because they were numbers lots of people wanted to buy for that draw.

[Muhendis]

13 hours ago, DezLez said:

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

I have never seen a disabled lottery ticket seller.

[Orinoco]

Just more Bs, from the number one Bs factory of Asia.

[Orinoco]

1 minute ago, Muhendis said:

I have never seen a disabled lottery ticket seller.

One at Lotus sukhumvit Jomtien pattaya.

North end entrance.

[RichardColeman]

13 hours ago, DezLez said:

I thought one of the reasons behind the present "paper" lottery was to give a form of employment to the disabled.  What is going to happen to them if it all goes online?

Absolutely no reason they could not have a small booth inside a 7/11 operating the machine

[OneMoreFarang]

And I thought Thais need to have a group of likeminded people around them and the lottery vendor to talk about the lottery numbers and dreams and predictions and whatever.

How will they do that online? Per video conference?

 

[jacko45k]

10 minutes ago, Muhendis said:

I have never seen a disabled lottery ticket seller.

Plenty of them around, a regular infront of the old Tops on Klang for many many years.