webfact Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Picture: INN INN reported on an accident on a hill leading down from the popular resort area of Phu Thap Buek in Phetchabun, NE Thailand yesterday. A black Vigo suffered brake failure and the driver lost control as they descended the hill. Despite the pick-up overturning and possessions being scattered everywhere, no one was killed in the accident. One was seriously injured, two had medium injuries and 5 escaped with minor injuries. Keep up to date with all things Thailand - Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe Picture: INN Meanwhile the same media also reported on a man in a pick-up who was not so lucky. This was Jaturaporn, 28, who drove his vehicle into a pond after failing to negotiate a bend in the road in Thung Song, Nakhon Sri Thammarat, southern Thailand. Divers found the vehicle in four meters of water but there was no driver. Jaturporn was found ten meters away after a one hour search. The deceased is the son of a local village leader or phu yai ban. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-04-15 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NE1 Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 Brake failure or just driving too fast for the road conditions . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 So the brakes didn't actually fail, they just failed to stop the truck before it overturned.???? Thai Brake failure = driving too fast for condition, in the real world ... shh 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blackshadow Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 HAVING DRIVEN FOR over 50 years I HAVE never had BRAKE failure during any of my journies ,,,, It is a complete lie when thais come up with this excuse.......same goes for MICRO SLEEP !!!! 6 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 Brake fade, going down hill in top gear with foot on the brake , brakes don't stop you when needed, you should always used gears to slow down, when descending, not the brakes. regards Worgeordie 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post msbkk Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) To be fair this is a very difficult road even for experienced drivers. Steep declines with sharp curves. A lot of accidents happen there. And you have to use a low gear, otherwise brakes will overheat. Vehicles must be in good condition and drivers on full alert to be able to drive this road.. I went there several times riding my motorbike. Edited April 15, 2022 by msbkk 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Brake fade, going down hill in top gear with foot on the brake , brakes don't stop you when needed, you should always used gears to slow down, when descending, not the brakes. regards Worgeordie About to say the same , drop it in to a lower cog or if auto. next one down , as many of us say , the locals really have trouble driving. When the wife's ma and pa come here they like me to drive them around . I haven't asked 'er indoors why .......I might not get the answer that I want to hear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post taotoo Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, blackshadow said: HAVING DRIVEN FOR over 50 years I HAVE never had BRAKE failure during any of my journies ,,,, It is a complete lie when thais come up with this excuse.......same goes for MICRO SLEEP !!!! Yes, but then you probably don't drive down a long, steep hill in top gear with your foot on the brake pedal, then get surprised when you reach the bend at the bottom and pressing it down further doesn't do anything. These "brake failure" excuses could actually be real. oops it's already been said, twice Edited April 15, 2022 by taotoo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I wonder if there is ever any mechanical investigation into any of these so called brake failures or just an acceptable excuse ? I think it's the later ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 How dare they blur out the license plate. Those numbers must be really lucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, NE1 said: Brake failure or just driving too fast for the road conditions . I'll bet on the latter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, NE1 said: Brake failure or just driving too fast for the road conditions . Brake failure also seems to cover the inability to actually slow down or stop. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I'll bet on the latter. Even Thais do not drive fast on that road. Try it one day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, toofarnorth said: About to say the same , drop it in to a lower cog or if auto. next one down , as many of us say , the locals really have trouble driving. When the wife's ma and pa come here they like me to drive them around . I haven't asked 'er indoors why .......I might not get the answer that I want to hear. ' inlaws' maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ralf001 Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, taotoo said: Yes, but then you probably don't drive down a long, steep hill in top gear with your foot on the brake pedal, then get surprised when you reach the bend at the bottom and pressing it down further doesn't do anything. sounds like brake fade..... not failure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Regarding brake fade, that was a common occurrence when drum brakes were in use but now almost all autos use disc brakes in the front which are resistant to fade. Although if the pads are worn down to nothing then there could be failure. Brake failure in Thailand is just an excuse for something else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digger70 Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 hours ago, taotoo said: Yes, but then you probably don't drive down a long, steep hill in top gear with your foot on the brake pedal, then get surprised when you reach the bend at the bottom and pressing it down further doesn't do anything. These "brake failure" excuses could actually be real. oops it's already been said, twice They aren't brake failures they are Brain Failures. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 +++ on most of the above. My dad, a coach driver for many years (winner of the UK National Coach Rally in 1959 - he's got a cup and plaque to prove it) always told me to go down a hill in one gear higher than it would take to go up it. OK so this was in a manual diesel, but the same applies to an auto, select 3 or 2 or L and let the engine do the braking. Obviously a pickup won't have a Telma or (heaven forbid) a Jake-brake but even so... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Crossy said: +++ on most of the above. My dad, a coach driver for many years (winner of the UK National Coach Rally in 1959 - he's got a cup and plaque to prove it) always told me to go down a hill in one gear higher than it would take to go up it. OK so this was in a manual diesel, but the same applies to an auto, select 3 or 2 or L and let the engine do the braking. Obviously a pickup won't have a Telma or (heaven forbid) a Jake-brake but even so... I used to drive coaches on the continent, Italy, Germany, Austria etc, had a TELMA fitted, wonderful bit of kit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: Brake fade, going down hill in top gear with foot on the brake , brakes don't stop you when needed, you should always used gears to slow down, when descending, not the brakes. regards Worgeordie I had an old 47 Dodge flatbed in the 70s. I was amazed that it still had the instruction book so I read it. I always remember where it said "Never go down a hill faster than you can go up". I'm sure with all the power in modern autos, that doesn't hold true anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, kokopelli said: Regarding brake fade, that was a common occurrence when drum brakes were in use but now almost all autos use disc brakes in the front which are resistant to fade. Although if the pads are worn down to nothing then there could be failure. Brake failure in Thailand is just an excuse for something else. Most pick-ups still use rear drum brakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: I had an old 47 Dodge flatbed in the 70s. I was amazed that it still had the instruction book so I read it. I always remember where it said "Never go down a hill faster than you can go up". I'm sure with all the power in modern autos, that doesn't hold true anymore. Perhaps wiser advice has never been given. (Value on my part of hindsight). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 6 hours ago, worgeordie said: Brake fade, going down hill in top gear with foot on the brake , brakes don't stop you when needed, you should always used gears to slow down, when descending, not the brakes. regards Worgeordie could also use the handbrake, gently!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 20 hours ago, blackshadow said: HAVING DRIVEN FOR over 50 years I HAVE never had BRAKE failure during any of my journies ,,,, It is a complete lie when thais come up with this excuse.......same goes for MICRO SLEEP !!!! The truck looks new. I haven't change my brakes in 10 years but I am always checking them. My car is a manual and I always down shift. Some people who drive automatics are very heavy on the brakes and never check them. Sadly this may be one or he was going way to fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 21 hours ago, blackshadow said: HAVING DRIVEN FOR over 50 years I HAVE never had BRAKE failure during any of my journies ,,,, It is a complete lie when thais come up with this excuse.......same goes for MICRO SLEEP !!!! Happened one time to me driving a works van, one hydraulic hose failed, loosing all brake fluid going down a hill, but i managed to control it, shifting down and using the hand brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 brake failure ???? try speeding and /or incompetent driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, blackshadow said: HAVING DRIVEN FOR over 50 years I HAVE never had BRAKE failure during any of my journies ,,,, It is a complete lie when thais come up with this excuse.... Brake fade, which causes the brakes to become ineffective, is not uncommon on hill descents such as the one reported in the OP. Fade can be interpreted by the driver as brake failure, it is not "a complete lie by Thais". Edited April 16, 2022 by Liverpool Lou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Brake fade, which causes the brakes to become ineffective, is not uncommon on hill descents such as the one reported in the OP. Fade can be interpreted by the driver as brake failure, it is not "a complete lie by Thais". so use the HANDBRAKE gently !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you must have degree in brake fade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 22 hours ago, worgeordie said: Brake fade, going down hill in top gear with foot on the brake , brakes don't stop you when needed, you should always used gears to slow down, when descending, not the brakes. regards Worgeordie just like my father taught me to do.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 23 hours ago, NE1 said: Brake failure or just driving too fast for the road conditions . driving too fast is my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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