Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[johng]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Androids updates by itself

I haven't updated my Android phone

this one typing here....since

yee olde 2015 !  

[Bangkokhatter]

Time for a new company car and HQ are pushing us towards full electric, although they will accept a Hybrid for the next couple of years.

 

My choices are the BYD Sealion 7 AWD, Deepal S07 or the CRV E:HEV.

 

Currently driving the CRV AWD, I like it, a bit vanilla for some but its comfortable for the family, nice to drive and service from Honda has been great. Looking at the Hybrid version, looks nice (apart from limited colour choice) but the battery part only has a range of 50 odd km which i find a bit pointless.

 

So is it time to go full electric? have read most of this thread and it reads pretty much how you would expect with each devotee defending their corner, however i am pretty ambivalent in regards to the ICE-v-BEV debate and just looking for personal opinions from owners on the 3 cars mentioned above.

 

I don't really have range concerns as longer journeys just require a bit more planning but i would like an idea of how much it costs for a 300Km trip for example (estimate is fine) and how simple it is to charge up at the service stations for example.

 

Thank in advance.

 

 

[Pib]

1 hour ago, johng said:

I haven't updated my Android phone

this one typing here....since

yee olde 2015 !  

That's the basic Android system software last update which was the Android 5 (Lollipop) version.  Whenever your phone was "new" which would have been 2015 or earlier it would have stopped getting "basic system software" updates probably a year or two after you bought it.  HOWEVER, any apps on the phone would continue to update via Google Play.   

 

Summary:  correct....no updates to your basic Android 5 software since 7 Dec 2015, but the apps on the phone would continue to update unless you turned off Google Play updates which I doubt you did as a lot of apps on the phone would have stopped working after a year or two due to being too old.

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, johng said:

I haven't updated my Android phone

this one typing here....since

yee olde 2015 !  

You're android phone updates OS itself.   You get 2-4 yrs of updates.  Then it stops.  Above just shows you have an old phone.  Mine has updated 2X, with no advance notice, I don't think or simply didn't notice.  Think I get 2 more, maybe.

 

[johng]

32 minutes ago, Pib said:

HOWEVER, any apps on the phone would continue to update via Google Play.   

 

Thank's for reminding me,

  I had restored a backup ROM /partitions image earlier this year and forgot to turn the Google auto everything to off...so yes the playstore did update

i'll have to go through all the settings and check...then perhaps make a new backup...

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, Bangkokhatter said:

Time for a new company car and HQ are pushing us towards full electric, although they will accept a Hybrid for the next couple of years.

 

My choices are the BYD Sealion 7 AWD, Deepal S07 or the CRV E:HEV.

 

Currently driving the CRV AWD, I like it, a bit vanilla for some but its comfortable for the family, nice to drive and service from Honda has been great. Looking at the Hybrid version, looks nice (apart from limited colour choice) but the battery part only has a range of 50 odd km which i find a bit pointless.

 

So is it time to go full electric? have read most of this thread and it reads pretty much how you would expect with each devotee defending their corner, however i am pretty ambivalent in regards to the ICE-v-BEV debate and just looking for personal opinions from owners on the 3 cars mentioned above.

 

I don't really have range concerns as longer journeys just require a bit more planning but i would like an idea of how much it costs for a 300Km trip for example (estimate is fine) and how simple it is to charge up at the service stations for example.

 

Thank in advance.

 

 

I have the Seal AWD and love it.

 

for me, there would be no comparison in that list, I would go straight for the Sealion 7 AWD.

 

Test drive them all and you’ll soon know which one.

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, Bangkokhatter said:

I don't really have range concerns as longer journeys just require a bit more planning but i would like an idea of how much it costs for a 300Km trip for example (estimate is fine) and how simple it is to charge up at the service stations for example.

 

I own 2 BYDs a BYD Seal AWD and an M6. I have driven the BYD Sealion 7 AWD which is basically an SUV version of the Seal. When I drive to BKK which is a 900km round trip, the car is fully charged when I leave home and empty when I return as I charge from my my off-grid solar system for free.

 

I do 2 x 20ish minute charges, one on the way down and one on the way back. I always charge at BYD dealerships as they have fast 150kW chargers and plug and charge - you plug the car in and it starts charging. You have 24 hours to pay. The BYD app lets you see which chargers are free. Cost about ฿300 each time.

 

1 hour ago, Bangkokhatter said:

Deepal S07 or the CRV E:HEV.

 

How far is the closest Deepal dealership from you?

 

Honda CRVs seem pretty expensive to me considering their lackluster performance 9.81 seconds 0-100 compared to 4.5 for the Sealion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pib]

27 minutes ago, johng said:

Thank's for reminding me,

  I had restored a backup ROM /partitions image earlier this year and forgot to turn the Google auto everything to off...so yes the playstore did update

i'll have to go through all the settings and check...then perhaps make a new backup...

Well, that means Google and all those apps have been tracking you which in turn means your cover has been blown.  You'll now need to be reassigned from being an undercover spy to an admin desk job back at spy headquarters.   And worst yet is you will now soon starting getting spam email from Donald T. trying to sell you swamp land in Florida, etc.   😜

[transam]

10 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I own 2 BYDs a BYD Seal AWD and an M6. I have driven the BYD Sealion 7 AWD which is basically an SUV version of the Seal. When I drive to BKK which is a 900km round trip, the car is fully charged when I leave home and empty when I return as I charge from my my off-grid solar system for free.

 

I do 2 x 20ish minute charges, one on the way down and one on the way back. I always charge at BYD dealerships as they have fast 150kW chargers and plug and charge - you plug the car in and it starts charging. You have 24 hours to pay. The BYD app lets you see which chargers are free. Cost about ฿300 each time.

 

 

How far is the closest Deepal dealership from you?

 

Honda CRVs seem pretty expensive to me considering their lackluster performance 9.81 seconds 0-100 compared to 4.5 for the Sealion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aaaah, the stop-light drags, that brings back memories.......

[Captain Flack]

I have removed off topic messages, discussing AN private messages, policy.

This topic is “Electric Vehicles in Thailand”, can we try to stay on topic.

 

 

[johng]

16 minutes ago, Pib said:

Well, that means Google and all those apps have been tracking you which in turn means your cover has been blown.

Pheww..  lucky I had nothing to hide ehh ?

[motdaeng]

can some of you (no name calling yet) go back to the topic please:

"Electric Vehicles in Thailand"

[Bangkokhatter]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I own 2 BYDs a BYD Seal AWD and an M6. I have driven the BYD Sealion 7 AWD which is basically an SUV version of the Seal. When I drive to BKK which is a 900km round trip, the car is fully charged when I leave home and empty when I return as I charge from my my off-grid solar system for free.

 

I do 2 x 20ish minute charges, one on the way down and one on the way back. I always charge at BYD dealerships as they have fast 150kW chargers and plug and charge - you plug the car in and it starts charging. You have 24 hours to pay. The BYD app lets you see which chargers are free. Cost about ฿300 each time.

 

 

How far is the closest Deepal dealership from you?

 

Honda CRVs seem pretty expensive to me considering their lackluster performance 9.81 seconds 0-100 compared to 4.5 for the Sealion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Price is not an issue as work will be paying and it will be a lease car for 4 years so no reason to worry about sell on price.

 

Have all 3 dealerships within 10km of home or work so no issues there.

 

The fuel savings are substantial though, a recent round trip to Issan cost around 4,500THB.

 

How are the regular software updates, i must admit i am pretty simple really and just like to get in the car and drive and not have to worry or read up on the latest updates.

 

I will do as you suggest and test drive the 2 EV's, will be my first time.

[carlyai]

2 hours ago, Bangkokhatter said:

Time for a new company car and HQ are pushing us towards full electric, although they will accept a Hybrid for the next couple of years.

 

My choices are the BYD Sealion 7 AWD, Deepal S07 or the CRV E:HEV.

 

Currently driving the CRV AWD, I like it, a bit vanilla for some but its comfortable for the family, nice to drive and service from Honda has been great. Looking at the Hybrid version, looks nice (apart from limited colour choice) but the battery part only has a range of 50 odd km which i find a bit pointless.

 

So is it time to go full electric? have read most of this thread and it reads pretty much how you would expect with each devotee defending their corner, however i am pretty ambivalent in regards to the ICE-v-BEV debate and just looking for personal opinions from owners on the 3 cars mentioned above.

 

I don't really have range concerns as longer journeys just require a bit more planning but i would like an idea of how much it costs for a 300Km trip for example (estimate is fine) and how simple it is to charge up at the service stations for example.

 

Thank in advance.

 

 

Hi. I have a 2013 2WD Honda CRV which we've enjoyed for a few years. Only thing wrong is that it's a little underpowered. 

My fault as I couldn't see the value (then) of buying the AWD CRV just to get a bigger engine and leather seats +.

So this time I wanted to buy the AWD 2025 Honda CRV, but then I compared it with the BYD Sealion 7 and price drop for the Bangkok Motor Show, the Sealion 7 seemed the right buy. 

The internal space is about the same as the Honda CRV.

We've had it for about 5 months and love it.

Very easy to drive and long trips are easy and not as tiring as before.

What I notice more now is the black smoke coming from a these badly tuned diesels and the stained roads from black smoke.

Apart from the Sealion7 being a great car to drive, wifey and I are happy not to be causing any of that horrible black pollution.

There is 'range anxiousness', probably because it's a new driving experience. Not that difficult to plan your charging stops, but long weekends in the Pattaya area was a problem finding working and vehicle free chargers.

[josephbloggs]

 

44 minutes ago, Bangkokhatter said:

Thanks for your reply.

 

Price is not an issue as work will be paying and it will be a lease car for 4 years so no reason to worry about sell on price.

 

Have all 3 dealerships within 10km of home or work so no issues there.

 

The fuel savings are substantial though, a recent round trip to Issan cost around 4,500THB.

 

How are the regular software updates, i must admit i am pretty simple really and just like to get in the car and drive and not have to worry or read up on the latest updates.

 

I will do as you suggest and test drive the 2 EV's, will be my first time.

Please do report back - it seems you have a very open mind so I would be keen to know your impressions.

I don't own an EV but I did use one for three days and it converted me, no way would I buy another petrol car so when the time comes to change I will be going EV.

My friend has always been pretty negative on them and he drives a diesel (ugh!) Everest. To be fair it's nice inside and has lots of space for him and his family but to me it's filthy (and I have driven it on numerous occasions). We talk cars a lot but he never really believed me about how good EVs are to drive and to live with.

 

He recently drove a friend's Aion Y which is pretty basic but it converted him immediately to the extent he went straight to a BYD dealership to check out the Sealion 7, then got home and listed his Everest for sale.

As has been said many many times on here EVs aren't for everyone, ie. if you do long trips every week or you can't charge at home. Anyway, let us know what you decide when the time comes.

[Bangkokhatter]

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

 

Please do report back - it seems you have a very open mind so I would be keen to know your impressions.

I don't own an EV but I did use one for three days and it converted me, no way would I buy another petrol car so when the time comes to change I will be going EV.

My friend has always been pretty negative on them and he drives a diesel (ugh!) Everest. To be fair it's nice inside and has lots of space for him and his family but to me it's filthy (and I have driven it on numerous occasions). We talk cars a lot but he never really believed me about how good EVs are to drive and to live with.

 

He recently drove a friend's Aion Y which is pretty basic but it converted him immediately to the extent he went straight to a BYD dealership to check out the Sealion 7, then got home and listed his Everest for sale.

As has been said many many times on here EVs aren't for everyone, ie. if you do long trips every week or you can't charge at home. Anyway, let us know what you decide when the time comes.

I do have an open mind, i enjoy driving the CRV, however this new lease will be for 4 years so maybe its time to go full electric.

 

No comments yet on the DEEPAL but it does seem the BYD is a popular choice.

 

Am sure the charging aspect will be a PIA at first but like most change in life you learn to adapt.

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, Bangkokhatter said:

I do have an open mind, i enjoy driving the CRV, however this new lease will be for 4 years so maybe its time to go full electric.

 

No comments yet on the DEEPAL but it does seem the BYD is a popular choice.

 

Am sure the charging aspect will be a PIA at first but like most change in life you learn to adapt.

Personally I think the Deepal is a better looking car but the BYD has more going for it - including performance. But both are very popular.

[Bangkokhatter]

2 hours ago, carlyai said:

Hi. I have a 2013 2WD Honda CRV which we've enjoyed for a few years. Only thing wrong is that it's a little underpowered. 

My fault as I couldn't see the value (then) of buying the AWD CRV just to get a bigger engine and leather seats +.

So this time I wanted to buy the AWD 2025 Honda CRV, but then I compared it with the BYD Sealion 7 and price drop for the Bangkok Motor Show, the Sealion 7 seemed the right buy. 

The internal space is about the same as the Honda CRV.

We've had it for about 5 months and love it.

Very easy to drive and long trips are easy and not as tiring as before.

What I notice more now is the black smoke coming from a these badly tuned diesels and the stained roads from black smoke.

Apart from the Sealion7 being a great car to drive, wifey and I are happy not to be causing any of that horrible black pollution.

There is 'range anxiousness', probably because it's a new driving experience. Not that difficult to plan your charging stops, but long weekends in the Pattaya area was a problem finding working and vehicle free chargers.

Am surprised you found Pattaya area a problem, i would have thought charger coverage in the more urban areas to be ok.