Boy, 14, served with warrant for molesting girl, also 14 - family are too poor to pay compensation or bail

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

When the case went cold police did nothing the navy man enlisted the help of social activist Paveena Hongsakul.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Wichian, 52, the boy's grandfather told the media that his family are very poor and had been unable to pay the compensation exploitation sought by the other family.

The Thai tradition of seeking compensation is a disgrace. As usual in Thailand, although no financial harm has been done they want MONEY. And the police 'negotiate' it to get their cut.
 

And the grandfather said... What did the parents say, if they haven't followed another Thai tradition of deserting their kid and at the same time surrendering their responsibility to teach right and wrong. Many here seem to have kids only as an insurance policy to be taken care of in old age. That might be understandable though, because the government does next to nothing for them. But there are consequences, aren't there.

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why hasn't she been arrested too?

She had sex with a 14yo boy which is also against the law.

A very good point, often overlooked. If it was consensual, as the lad claims, then she is just as guilty.

[Neeranam]

Nothing will happen here. 

 

I first had sex before I had experienced an erection, aged 11. Girl was 12. @ kinda screwed me up for a few years. 

[Tony125]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why hasn't she been arrested too?

She had sex with a 14yo boy which is also against the law.

Because the law states that she is below the age  to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape..

[Tony125]

43 minutes ago, nickmondo said:

bloody hell.........when i was 14, they would have had to arrest every boy in the school for groping or molesting a girl of the same age.......everyone did it........thats what happened back then in the 70's.......it was experimenting, learning.......and most of the girls seemed to like a bit of groping anyway........

Times change, you know the Metoo movement. I know in Boston when I was a kid guys ,especially around construction sites would whistle at cute girls walking by. Do that now and you can be arrested for assault. Hek I was an athlete kinda buff had nurses taking a lunch break outside Mass General Hospital who whistled at me when I walked my mom out to our car.  Mom and I just laughed

[BritManToo]

19 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

Because the law states that she is below the age  to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape..

He was also below the age to give consent ....... stat rape works both ways.

[freedomnow]

1 hour ago, nickmondo said:

.......and most of the girls seemed to like a bit of groping anyway........

That's what you tell yourself....

[cncltd1973]

this reads like casual sex between teenagers. if so, the girl's father should try to remember what he was doing at 14 years and if he should've gone to jail for it

[Purdey]

Kids. My Hairdresser's daughter got knocked up at 14. The boys parents

 agreed to take care of her and the child. Mother was fine about it. Two kids of 11 in the village kept running away and bonking so the families held a marriage ceremony so they could do what they wanted (in the eyes of the villages).

Thailand is a very laid back society.

[BTB1977]

So out of the 3 times she went to meet him, which time did she say no ? 

[Doctor Tom]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Seems teenage sex is rife in this family

Teenage sex is common throughout the world. 

[Denim]

7 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Girls/women often aren't held responsible for sex.  They are typically passive and it is the man who initiates and does most of the "grunt" work, so women are viewed sometimes as having sex done to them.  Unless they choose to be promiscuous, then they are strong and independent and their past doesn't matter.

Bit of a can of worms there.

 

I had sex done to me last night.

 

I'm slightly traumatized but it is what it is.

[Toscano]

This is not an uncommon occurrence in Thailand . Further I believe it is not a crime in Thailand for a 14 year old girl and a 14 yr old boy to have sex . The fact that she came back to him a couple of times more suggests that it was consensual .

[FriendlyFarang]

6 minutes ago, Toscano said:

This is not an uncommon occurrence in Thailand . Further I believe it is not a crime in Thailand for a 14 year old girl and a 14 yr old boy to have sex . The fact that she came back to him a couple of times more suggests that it was consensual .

Having sex with somebody under 15 is always considered rape under thai law, thus it's illegal.

Of course it applies to both, so as pointed out by the other poster, if the boy is charged, the girl should be charged as well.

[Mike k]

To the father the girl was a piece of meat to make money off of but when the boys family didn't have the money to pay for it they had the boy arrested 

[kiwikeith]

12 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Bit of a "he said, she said", unfortunately.  He could have molested her, or she might have consented and lied when her dad found out and went crazy (father might even have made her lie). 

 

A bit weird that it was an ongoing thing and only ended when they went to the police.  What prevented them from ending it before hand if it wasn't consensual?

I thought the law was that underage consensual sex was legal between 2 underage. But molestation is not, it is rape. 

But this sounds like a consensual gone wrong and a money extraction aided by the boys in brown. 

[Captain Monday]

8 hours ago, 2long said:

Molested & sex aren't the same thing. What really happened, or is claimed to have happened?

 

Many forum members (including myself) were up to all kinds of shenanigans at that age, with consensual girls of our own age.

And at 12-14 the girls were more mature and the aggressive. I pleaded to parents not to be sent to summer camp. If not I would never have met there the utter tarts from private schools and  "Christian" academies.????

 

[2long]

6 hours ago, Tony125 said:

Because the law states that she is below the age  to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape..

'If a GUY..' or if another 'child of the same age!?

[Captain Monday]

1 hour ago, 2long said:

'If a GUY..' or if another 'child of the same age!?

Appears to be no romeo juliette law in Thailand  same some backward US states where

teenagers "sexting" are kiddieporn offenders and all underage pregnancies are investigated as rape.

 

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

He was also below the age to give consent ....... stat rape works both ways.

it would work if it was the other way around, girl from poor family and boy from better off family, then they would say that she seduced him, she was promiscuous

[Adumbration]

18 hours ago, FriendlyFarang said:

Having sex with somebody under 15 is always considered rape under thai law, thus it's illegal.

Of course it applies to both, so as pointed out by the other poster, if the boy is charged, the girl should be charged as well.

Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration.  How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy?

[CharlieH]

7 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration.  How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy?

"Penetration"  can be achirved by either, the boy inititating the act or a female initiating the act, the result of  "penetration" is achieved,

[FriendlyFarang]

15 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration.  How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy?

I just looked up the law:

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Section 277. Rape – Girl Under 15

 

Whoever, has sexual intercourse with a girl not yet over fifteen years of age and not being his own wife, whether such girl shall consent or not, shall be punished with imprisonment of four to twenty years and fined of eight thousand to forty thousand Baht.

[...]

 

Quote

Section 279. Penalty for Indecent Act with someone under 15 years old

 

Whoever, commits an indecent act on a child not yet over fifteen years of age, whether such child shall consent or not, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding ten years or fined not exceeding twenty thousand Baht, or both.

[...]

Up to 20 years prison for the boy, up to 10 years prison for the girl.

[Adumbration]

19 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

"Penetration"  can be achirved by either, the boy inititating the act or a female initiating the act, the result of  "penetration" is achieved,

No it cannot.

[Adumbration]

17 minutes ago, FriendlyFarang said:

I just looked up the law:

 

Up to 20 years prison for the boy, up to 10 years prison for the girl.

Case would turn upon common law precedents not statutes.

[Adumbration]

16 hours ago, Mike k said:

To the father the girl was a piece of meat to make money off of but when the boys family didn't have the money to pay for it they had the boy arrested 

Why did they not charge the boy with shop lifting?

[CharlieH]

37 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

No it cannot.

So if the female lowers herself onto him, penetration was not achieved ?

[Adumbration]

4 hours ago, CharlieH said:

So if the female lowers herself onto him, penetration was not achieved ?

No the girl did not penetrate him.  

[CharlieH]

27 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

No the girl did not penetrate him.  

No one said her penetrating him.

The girl can initiate her penetration by him.

Just by siting on his penis. Penetration is achieved.

[Boomer6969]

On 5/4/2022 at 3:26 PM, vandeventer said:

How old were all of you when you had consenting sex? Be honest!!!

I was 27, when I married my first wife, after a long series of rapes, according to those who handle or comment this sad case.