Just now, Hummin said:

I believe some predator birds like eagles in some protected areas have a good life soaring the sky, free and with no fears of tomorow. 

Awesome life. They dont sit around whining on the internet or watch tv.

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

They speak bird not English. Dead lol

They are more alive than most humans. 

Yes, may be. The problem is - they don’t even know they are alive. They don’t exist for themselves. They do only exist for us, humans.

Just now, Hellfire said:

Yes, may be. The problem is - they don’t even know they are alive. They don’t exist for themselves. They do only exist for us, humans.

You are making false statements. They feel pain and they fight over food. Of course they know they are alive. Some are friendly sit on shoulder some are not.

 

They dont exist for us. Most birds we dont eat. They eat our food and <deleted> on the fence.

Next life i be bird u human

 I <deleted> on your fence if no food

The real problem is how much we deleted this planet, fighting wars we had no reasons for, and of top of that, we tripled  the population since 1980.
 

suddenly over two decades, we have a majority of people know everything, and believe in everything and also knows more than scientists knows, who have an IQ above 140. Average Joe broke all the codes in science
 

 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I believe some predator birds like eagles in some protected areas have a good life soaring the sky, free and with no fears of tomorow. 

The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life?

1 minute ago, Hellfire said:

The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life?

Chairs dont have brains

Never heard a bird and a chair compared before

https://sea.mashable.com/science/13941/birds-might-be-conscious-and-self-aware-like-humans-groundbreaking-study-finds

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Never heard a bird and a chair compared before

Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stones  than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe.

 

 

See they do think

Just now, Hellfire said:

Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stone than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe.

Humans are very arrogant

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life?

Your name is average Joe? ????????

 

We can believe what we want, And I believe animals reckonize appreciate a good life. If not, they would go extinct 

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stones  than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe.

 

 

There is a reason this world goes to hell, and you manage to prove it with three simple sentences. Well done

See studies

 

Smart and likely self aware

 

I know this, i feed them

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your name is average Joe? ????????

 

We can believe what we want, And I believe animals reckonize appreciate a good life. If not, they would go extinct 

No, they are just machines. They recognize nothing. The only creature on this planet that does recognize anything (in the true sense of this word) is a human. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

There is a reason this world goes to hell, and you manage to prove it with three simple sentences. Well done

This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. 

14 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. 

Religiously spoken of course? Or joker on Friday eve

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Religiously spoken of course? Or s joker on Friday eve

Weird conversation. Comparing animals with stones and chairs.

11 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. 

Earth 4bn years old

Humans 200,000 years old

The earth doesnt need us. We need it. Animals millions of years old.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Religiously spoken of course? Or s joker on Friday eve

The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. 

Just now, Hellfire said:

The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. 

One opinion. Not shared by any scientist.

The objective reality is a myth. There is only a human reality. No humans = no reality. 

 

9 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Earth 4bn years old

Humans 200,000 years old

The earth doesnt need us. We need it. Animals millions of years old.

You are so funny… no offense

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

The objective reality is a myth. There is only a human reality. No humans = no reality. 

 

When i was 19yo i smoked weed and thought the same.

Just now, Hellfire said:

You are so funny… no offense

None taken. I will take real science over chair science.

1 minute ago, Hellfire said:

The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. 

A Matrix, a simulator, a game, well, that we do not know. Might be, but that is nothing we can prove, or in fact know anything about. We can only relate to the most obvious reality that's is in front of us. 

Dinosaurs lived before us. Animals dont need us.

12 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

When i was 19yo i smoked weed and thought the same.

19 to, and I heard pink Floyd dark side of the moon, being dragged in to a black hole, but managed to hold on to the table long enough

The Doors Jim Morrison

 

Break on thru to the other side. I tried.