Harris calls for 'assault weapons ban' in wake of mass shootings; Biden arrives in Uvalde

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2022/5/29/23146412/chicago-shootings-memorial-day-weekend

 

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/oakland-police-kept-busy-with-another-crime-filled-weekend/

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/memorial-day-weekend-marked-dozen-mass-shootings-us-rcna31179

 

Just gang bangers keeping it real. And you want to know why law abiding citizens need guns. God Bless America....

 

Can you find anything similar for developed nations with gun controls, eg Canada, the UK, anywhere in the EU…… ?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, digger70 said:

I am not talking about that ,stick to the Facts.

The fact is that tools don't kill ,People Do.

Yes, and mass murderers in the US have a predilection for using guns to commit their murders and a particular type of gun.

 

Mass murderers don’t tend to use ‘set squares’, ‘G-clamps’ or ‘pop riveters’.

 

Come to think of it when was the last time you heard of a ‘Drive by chiseling’?

 

 

[coolcarer]

A killer wants to go out and murder as many people as he can in 5e shortest time that he can. his weapon of a choice, a gun. With that he can murder dozens of people from any distance without even  getting a drop of blood on himself.

 

Or he could decide on a knife, stab a handful at the most who would likely survive and of course he would be caught and imprisoned. 
 

If you were a killer which would you chose?

 

Take away the gun and you will have less opportunity to kill and more likely hood of being caught.

[EVENKEEL]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you find anything similar for developed nations with gun controls, eg Canada, the UK, anywhere in the EU…… ?

 

In some of the democratic strongholds, the criminals who commit violent crimes are let go. The US has gun laws. I'd bet the most killings happen with a handgun. So what do you do?

[coolcarer]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

In some of the democratic strongholds, the criminals who commit violent crimes are let go. The US has gun laws. I'd bet the most killings happen with a handgun. So what do you do?

Same as they other countries, stricter gun laws, it works.

[ozimoron]

28 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

In some of the democratic strongholds, the criminals who commit violent crimes are let go. The US has gun laws. I'd bet the most killings happen with a handgun. So what do you do?

Was the Trayvon killing in a democratic stronghold? Was Rittenhouse in a democratic stronghold?

Edited June 1, 2022 by ozimoron

[digger70]

49 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Do you not understand their point or you just want to shill the party line on guns? Why are nations afraid Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine? It's still the same enemy? It's because those weapons kill more people more easily and more effectively and that's precisely the argument presented by posters trying to convince you that there's a difference between an AR 15 and a BB gun but you refuse to even acknowledge the point.

There's the point Some tools in peoples hand can kill more than others but it still a fact that the Tool don't kill only people do. 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, digger70 said:

There's the point Some tools in peoples hand can kill more than others but it still a fact that the Tool don't kill only people do. 

You are well out there on the fringes of the ‘spectrum’.....   Yes.. that spectrum... 

 

....everyone knows what you mean... es, a trigger doesn’t pull itself... we get that... 

...........it's just such a galactically stupid point that its outside the realms of intelligent discussion....   Without the automatic weapon in the first place the mass murder is far less likely to happen.

 

 

Now the Mark Twain quote springs to mind....”Never Argue with.... ......

Edited June 1, 2022 by richard_smith237

[CharlieH]

Trolling comments and responses removed.

[metisdead]

Some more off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed.

[Mac Mickmanus]

44 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He crossed state lines with an illegally obtained AR 15 to go looking fir trouble at a BLM march. The sole reason he was there was because of racial animus.

At the time, the "crossing of state lines" was held in such importance, that is sounded like he illegally went to another Country with the sole purpose of fighting , he crossed the border to get to the fight  , in reality , his house and the town center were either side of a state border and the fact that he crossed it, was rather irrelevant 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

“Guns should only be given to responsible people and not given to  potential mass murderers ”

So in principle you agree with the necessity of gun controls.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“Guns should only be given to responsible people and not given to  potential mass murderers ”

So in principle you agree with the necessity of gun controls.

IMO, all guns should be removed from everyone and everywhere , even the Police ,

Just have the Army with guns and no one else .

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

IMO, all guns should be removed from everyone and everywhere , even the Police ,

Just have the Army with guns and no one else .

I’m not for removing all guns, but I do believe gun ownership should be licensed and controlled and that predictors of gun violence should be used to determine who doesn’t get a gun. 

 

eg any history of violence, including domestic violence, any behavior relating to threatening others with weapons, any felony that resulted in prison time, any history of mental illness that is associated with a risk of violence.

 

And absolutely limit gun ownership to above 21 years old.

 

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not for removing all guns, but I do believe gun ownership should be licensed and controlled and that predictors of gun violence should be used to determine who doesn’t get a gun. 

 

eg any history of violence, including domestic violence, any behavior relating to threatening others with weapons, any felony that resulted in prison time, any history of mental illness that is associated with a risk of violence.

 

And absolutely limit gun ownership to above 21 years old.

 

 

 

Why would any person need to own a gun ?

For what reason ?

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll deflection post removed

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why would any person need to own a gun ?

For what reason ?

I used to own guns for shooting game for the kitchen pot, lots of people do.

 

There are whole areas of the US in which hunting with a rifle provides the majority of meat consumed by very many families.

 

Hunting for food is an age old custom, it’s a thing.

 

 

 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[onthedarkside]

Numerous posts rehashing the Kyle Rittenhouse case, BLM protests and other off-topic issues have been removed, along with several posts citing disallowed, non-credible sources.

 

[EVENKEEL]

As usual joe spins a story with inaccurate facts, he just makes stuff up as he goes.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/25/joe-biden/joe-biden-gets-history-wrong-second-amendment-limi/

[Bkk Brian]

Just announced. The mass murders continue and another where the shooter was not stopped and instead shot himself. Something seriously wrong with gun totting advocates:

 

Oklahoma hospital shooting: Four killed and multiple injured

 

Four people have been killed in a shooting spree at a hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma, police say.

Law enforcement officials confirmed that the suspected shooter was also dead.

He said the shooter, who has not yet been identified, sustained fatal gunshot wounds which were believed to have been self-inflicted.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61669873