Popular Post Adumbration Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Your thoughts please. Edited June 19, 2022 by Adumbration 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 Of course not. 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 Why would they? Just a nonsensible idea. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adumbration Posted June 19, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 I have been here a very long time. Back when they started tightening up all the tourist visas, there were lots of comments like those from @Jingthing and @ThailandRyan. People were saying things like they will never do it because look at all the visa run businesses and businesses at the border crossing that will go bust overnight. Guess what, they did it anyway. If you want to post a throw away comment that it will never happen, please take care to explain to me why it won't. 8 5 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Onerak Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 10-year O-X visa exists for sometimes. Nothing changed because of that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Adumbration said: I have been here a very long time. Back when they started tightening up all the tourist visas, there were lots of comments like those from @Jingthing and @ThailandRyan. People were saying things like they will never do it because look at all the visa run businesses and businesses at the border crossing that will go bust overnight. Guess what, they did it anyway. If you want to post a throw away comment that it will never happen, please take care to explain to me why it won't. There are still tourist visas. I really have no idea what you are on about except perhaps having a bit of fun with fear mongering. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jerno Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 Why would they? Please answer, instead of criticizing the valid question. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Not Same. Different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Adumbration said: I have been here a very long time. Back when they started tightening up all the tourist visas, there were lots of comments like those from @Jingthing and @ThailandRyan. People were saying things like they will never do it because look at all the visa run businesses and businesses at the border crossing that will go bust overnight. Guess what, they did it anyway. If you want to post a throw away comment that it will never happen, please take care to explain to me why it won't. Never said they would not create the Visa you quoted in your OP, I indicated they would not do away with the O Visa or the extension based upon the O as you asked for the question about in your title. The same with the O-A, they will be around a long time Sir. Your apology will not be needed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, Onerak said: 10-year O-X visa exists for sometimes. Nothing changed because of that. Exactly, as I was not pushed towards an O-X when I obtained my first O-A many years ago, nothing has changed as you indicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Adumbration said: Your thoughts please. You need to not listen to bar stool talk. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Does anyone have the requirements for these 10 year visas? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Need a title change ... nothing 'new' here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Lets see folks We have the OA visa and the O visa and OX visa and The smart visas and The investment visas and The volunteer visas and The Elite visas and The education visa These are all long term visas So just throw this new one in the pile and forget about it.... Edited June 19, 2022 by redwood1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 I thought it was a topic on the 0-X visa. So we're discussing the newish visa, for millionaires ? Which I still can't get my head around, why any millionaire, would want to live in TH. Unless they live for P4P, then still not sure if it would be my choice. Or is there a 'new' one ? 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Several off topic unhelpful remarks and responses removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lorry Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Which I still can't get my head around, why any millionaire, would want to live in TH Because with the new millionaire's visa, the millionaire will be allowed to work in Thailand ???? 1 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lorry said: Because with the new millionaire's visa, the millionaire will be allowed to work in Thailand ???? Again ... if a millionaire, I wouldn't be working either. That would have to be one special job, to get me to show up. That was the only thing I wanted to be when I grew up ... retired ???? 2 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickelbeer Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Jerno said: Why would they? Please answer, instead of criticizing the valid question. The Thai government has proven that they don’t consider consequences. They take action because they CAN and because they will then be seen as DOING something rather than maintaining the status quo. They showed what they think of retirees when they demanded that Embassies provide ironclad PROOF of income, rather than a statutory declaration. Two embassies then announced they would no longer provide income statements. If consequences are routinely ignored in order to demonstrate power, then you have the kind of unstable climate for retirees that you find in Thailand. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: You need to not listen to bar stool talk. I don't drink. And never speak to expats in a bar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said: They showed what they think of retirees when they demanded that Embassies provide ironclad PROOF of income, rather than a statutory declaration. Two embassies then announced they would no longer provide income statements. If consequences are routinely ignored in order to demonstrate power, then you have the kind of unstable climate for retirees that you find in Thailand. Thai Imm requires verified income, the embassies wouldn't provide that, which falls on our useless embassies, not the Thai Imm offices, who were simply doing there job. Would anyone want foreign embassies to submit false paperwork for people entering your home country ? I think not. With that & staying on topic .. I think these 'high income' visas may be a bit of a nightmare, with the financial paperwork. Edited June 19, 2022 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bokningar Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Exactly, as I was not pushed towards an O-X when I obtained my first O-A many years ago, nothing has changed as you indicate. The O-A visa is more or less dead. New rules killed it. I used it for a long time but now I just do some short visit or stay away from Thailand all together. The problem is you never know when they will change the rules. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Jingthing said: There are still tourist visas. I really have no idea what you are on about except perhaps having a bit of fun with fear mongering. Unlimited double (sometimes triple) entry tourist visas were at one time easily available just for the asking at most embassies/consulates near Thailand. Indeed, I can remember when a few consulates would give you a one-year multiple entry Non O visa to visit Thai friends, based on nothing but a verbal statement on your part. The idea of an airport immigration official telling you "you have been here too long" and refusing to honour your tourist visa was unthinkable. Now, staying indefinitely on tourist entries might still be possible, but it requires considerable skill and luck to thread the needle. I doubt retirement Non O visas and extensions will be eliminated but, especially if tourism returns to pre Covid levels and the economic benefits of elderly expats becomes less important, it is likely that requirements for retirement visas and extensions will be increased. With luck, those already here will have their current requirements grandfathered, with increased requirements only for new applicants, but anything is possible. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Retirement extensions based on non-O visas will probably be around until such time as the issue of new non-O visas by Thai embassies and consulates abroad or through conversions at local immigration offices is discontinued. Thereafter they will gradually fade away as retirees seeking them on the basis of original non-O visas switch to marriage/family extensions, relocate to another country or pop their clogs. Personally I can't see the issue of new non-O visas being discontinued any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 Mark Twain quote: I have spent most of my life worrying about things that have never happened. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, BritTim said: With luck, those already here will have their current requirements grandfathered, with increased requirements only for new applicants, but anything is possible. I don't share your optimism, Tim, bearing in mind that there was no grandfathering of the mandatory health insurance requirement for those with historic non-OA visas, for example. I fear that the concept of grandfathering generally is almost certainly now a dead duck as far as the Immigration Bureau is concerned. We can, however, only hope that they will provide us with adequate advance notice of any changes rather than leaving until 23:59:59 the day before they are due to come into force before issuing the necessary Police Order (as they appear to be doing in the case of the increased 30,000,000 THB / 100,000 USD insurance requirements slated to come into force for all original non-OA visa holders from 1 September). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said: Getting a visa does not always mean living in Thailand. I have 20 years elite, Except during the covid, I don't live in Thailand. Yes I come for poseidon teen age models and got 19-year old Poseidon model pregnant after enjoying her for one year. Getting a teen ager and enjoy her body in her birth day suite for three months for few thousand dollars is not easy to find anywhere in the World. Ah, SUIT???? !!! I was really confused there for a moment. But see how versatile the English language is: just add one little letter (e) to a word and you have my imagination rev into overdrive. There I was trying to imagine what it meant (but of course the man is rich admittedly) to provide a (???) hotel suite for your teen sweetheart. Silly me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 8 hours ago, PJ71 said: Does anyone have the requirements for these 10 year visas? Thx. This is the income requirement part: Those in the high-income earner bracket must have an average annual income of US$80,000 for two years before applying for the visa. Notice $80,000 USD per year or equivalent not in Baht(I have seen a news article that states Baht and this is incorrect). My annual retirement is close but I do not qualify for this visa. Thinking logically(this does not always apply in LOS) someone who makes $80,000 per would have many options in terms of Visa’s and even countries. Now I will take off my logic cap off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenr Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 sorry everyone I still don’t how you replay to someone’s post ! but how do you find Thailand to Columbia ? CartagenaWarlock Senior Member Advanced Member 583 581 posts Gender:Male Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, KhunLA said: So we're discussing the newish visa, for millionaires ? Which I still can't get my head around, why any millionaire, would want to live in TH. Unless they live for P4P, then still not sure if it would be my choice. Getting a visa does not always mean living in Thailand. I have 20 years elite, Except during the covid, I don't live in Thailand. Yes I come for poseidon teen age models and got 19-year old Poseidon model pregnant after enjoying her for one year. Getting a teen ager and enjoy her body in her birth day suite for three months for few thousand dollars is not easy to find anywhere in the World. Edited 6 hours ago by CartagenaWarlock Nickelbeer and flexomike 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marin Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Adumbration said: I have been here a very long time. Back when they started tightening up all the tourist visas, there were lots of comments like those from @Jingthing and @ThailandRyan. People were saying things like they will never do it because look at all the visa run businesses and businesses at the border crossing that will go bust overnight. Guess what, they did it anyway. If you want to post a throw away comment that it will never happen, please take care to explain to me why it won't. You asked for peoples thoughts. They gave them. They were not what you wanted to hear so you start bitching. Hilarious. Even more so that you dont see why. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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